If I'm trading up for someone, it's Garrett Wilson.

The highest floor?

If he doesn't come back 100% from his knee injury, he's out of the league in 3 years.

He's a speed receiver. His floor is literally a guy who doesn't contribute at all if he doesn't come back with the same explosion he had before the injury.

Among the WRs the highest floors are easily Wilson and Olave. They're both healthy and play a more rounded game. I don't think either of them have the ceiling of Williams but few guys in this entire draft actually have a lower floor that Jameson Williams.

Exactly.

Once your QB starts making real money, it's his job to make B level WR talent outperform their paychecks.

Any swinging dick can throw to HoFers - Alex Smith did it. And yeah, it makes a great QBs job easier. But when he wants to get paid, there are sacrifices that come with that and having that easy job is one of them.

The WR market is making it look like the days of a top 5 QB and a top 5 WR on his 3rd contract are effectively over. And frankly, a guy getting a top flight WR on his second contract is pretty unlikely unless the deal is signed a year early and you leverage some AAV concessions out of it that way.

Because it took you sleeping one night to confirm what you’ve been saying in every draft thread for the last month?

The only caveat is if that top 5 QB is on a rookie deal. Cinci's window with Chase and Burrow will be short. Now, depending on how they handle it, and how they draft, their contender window may be as long as Burrow can play at a high level; but if they're smart, they'll move Chase for a huge haul when it behooves their roster, just like we did Tyreek.

It's painful, but it's the smart move in the long view.

I'm not going to complain if they trade up for a guy, as I'll assume they're just 100% all in on the kid and he was THEIR guy-but me, personally, I would not trade up in any significant fashion in those first two rounds. There's too much talent at our specific areas of need to spend the draft capital in that manner.

Just my opinion.

Moving to 18 will require the equivalent of a 30 AND 50.

No.

****ing.

Way.

I thought our early 3rd & 4th and next years 4th could move us up from 29 to 18? Is that incorrect?

I'd have to look at the draft value chart again.

Note that I'm not saying it will take 30 and 50. It will take the equivalent value though. 30 and 50 are roughly worth somewhere between the 18th and 19th pick.

LMAO No.

That maybe gets you to 21 and that's if you value a 4th rounder in 2022 as a mid 4th this year....which it's not.

Yep, just thought about all the busts from other schools and how bama wrs have done well. Ohio state wrs have mostly been jags or busts?

29 and 50 gets you to around 15-16.

Seriously....who gives a shit about that?

Culture & training are important. A track record of successful draft picks is obviously important. You must be trolling.

Veach isn't trading up in the 1st all his moves will be made in the 2nd and 3rd round with his mantra that this draft class has a depth of talent