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O.city 04-12-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16242620)
Man, I have this same feeling too.

Something tells me we’re going to trade for him.

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16242624)
If I'm a WR I just am not signing an extension right now. I'm going to the market.

Because Godwin got hurt and STILL got paid.

So unless I'm getting top 5 WR money, I'm playing out my contract and getting to FA. The market is just way too hot for them right now.

And I'm not giving up draft capital for someone I'm just gonna have to trade again in a year. Especially not when I still don't have Brown's LTC done so I need to ensure that I have my franchise tag free next season.

If you could get him to take Godwin's deal, I'd think that works out.

Trade Tyreek and take the picks and money from him and turn that into Josh Allen and McLaurin.

Done deal.

In58men 04-12-2022 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16242624)
If I'm a WR I just am not signing an extension right now. I'm going to the market.

Because Godwin got hurt and STILL got paid.

So unless I'm getting top 5 WR money, I'm playing out my contract and getting to FA. The market is just way too hot for them right now.

And I'm not giving up draft capital for someone I'm just gonna have to trade again in a year. Especially not when I still don't have Brown's LTC done so I need to ensure that I have my franchise tag free next season.

Are we just never going to pay a quality WR top money? Juju is going to want to get paid too, we can’t keep giving FAs 1-year prove it deals. Eventually they’ll have to figure something out and give Mahomes a stable #1.

It’s either throw darts or pay the proven vet. Not sure Veach wants to gamble with a rookie when he’s paying Mahomes 500 milly. They can figure it out. Go get McLaurin.

O.city 04-12-2022 09:54 AM

Theoretically, yes. Keep churning thru the WR's and leave it up to Patrick and Andy to make them work.

He gets the big contract. Thems the breaks.

The Franchise 04-12-2022 09:56 AM

I'm okay with paying a top WR around $20 million a season but that requires constant churning of the WRs outside of him. That and only if that WR earning $20 million is worth it. I'm not paying Christian Kirk $20 million.

Rasputin 04-12-2022 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16242509)
It was never a good pick. Just terrible value on a position that's easier to fill than Pestilence's mom.

"Value picks" like that are how you get into positions like we're in now. Had they taken a WR there, we'd be better off now.

Forward thinking in the draft. Alwasys.

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16242546)
Yes and No, Probably shouldnt have taken a 1st rounder BUT had they taken any other top RB, Taylor, Swift, Dobbins (2nd rounders) or even Antonio Gibson (3rd rounder) we would be much happier with the pick.

So I think both sides of this discussion have merit.


One I don't think we've seen the best out of CEH but this season will tell the story. I don't believe we picked the wrong running back unless he can't kick the injury prone moniker but i think he can. Everyone underestimates CEH and that's fine he knows it. He admitted coming into camp underweight because he lost wait after his gall bladder surgery during offseason. Ok I'm not making that as an excuse but it probably didn't help him. He did come on strong in the playoffs a lot stronger than Johnathan Taylor how many TD rushing yards he get?

CEH had a hell of a good rookie season and everyone loved him then the next season fumbles the ball for the first time in NFL and he gets dogged on. He wasn't at 100% and coach should have held him out first 6 games.

It wasn't a mistake to pick CEH for our #32 pick he just has to stay healthy but you do the splits getting tackled and see how that feels. He was running over teams in his rookie year and before he got hurt talk of OROTY. So now his third year i have higher expectations and he will come though of course this offensive line it's not going be hard for him to look good when he get to the second wave of tacklers. At the time of the draft RB was our biggest need even if you don't draft running backs in the first round.

This is the kind of play we should expect out of CEH he has it in him just need him for the season.

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The Franchise 04-12-2022 10:06 AM

It ABSOLUTELY was a mistake drafting CEH at #32. There's nothing we can do about it now.

O.city 04-12-2022 10:09 AM

You can get a running back that does what CEH does in the 3rd/4th round of every draft. Every year.

chiefforlife 04-12-2022 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16242641)
Are we just never going to pay a quality WR top money? Juju is going to want to get paid too, we can’t keep giving FAs 1-year prove it deals. Eventually they’ll have to figure something out and give Mahomes a stable #1.

It’s either throw darts or pay the proven vet. Not sure Veach wants to gamble with a rookie when he’s paying Mahomes 500 milly. They can figure it out. Go get McLaurin.

Its not like they werent going to pay BIG money to Tyreek, they were.

IF they trade for Mclaurin, let him play out this year and if it works they will pay him. Id be all for that. Mclaurin is awesome and wasted in Washington.

I think he would be so happy to be on a winning team and having Patrick be his QB that he wouldnt demand top money to stay on this team.

Yes he will want to be paid but he also has seen the other side. The side Tyreek hasnt seen yet...

In58men 04-12-2022 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 16242660)
It ABSOLUTELY was a mistake drafting CEH at #32. There's nothing we can do about it now.

Mahomes had a say in that pick IIRC

chiefforlife 04-12-2022 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16242675)
Mahomes had a say in that pick IIRC

SO!

Still a bad pick.

CatfishBob2 04-12-2022 10:24 AM

I would never be down with taking a 5'7 200lb running back with our first pick unless he was the second coming off Barry Sanders. CEH isn't in the same universe

I'm not opposed to taking an RB in the first and I don't believe you're excluded from taking another one high in the draft just because you overdrafted CEH. Unfornately or fortunately, however you look at it, there isn't an RB worth taking in the top half of this draft

In58men 04-12-2022 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife (Post 16242677)
SO!

Still a bad pick.

Obviously, but does it fall on Veach?

DJ's left nut 04-12-2022 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16242639)
If you could get him to take Godwin's deal, I'd think that works out.

Trade Tyreek and take the picks and money from him and turn that into Josh Allen and McLaurin.

Done deal.

Sure, but Godwin signed his deal coming off injury and before the market was re-set.

I don't think a healthy McLaurin signs that deal.

Oh, and the 'Tyreek Money' wouldn't pay for Allen and McLaurin. Especially not when Allen inevitably insists on a new deal of his own.

DJ's left nut 04-12-2022 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by In58men (Post 16242696)
Obviously, but does it fall on Veach?

Yes.

Why wouldn't it?

O.city 04-12-2022 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16242709)
Sure, but Godwin signed his deal coming off injury and before the market was re-set.

I don't think a healthy McLaurin signs that deal.

Oh, and the 'Tyreek Money' wouldn't pay for Allen and McLaurin. Especially not when Allen inevitably insists on a new deal of his own.

Fine.

A first and a 2nd and new contracts for OBJ Allen and Terry. I still have 10 picks here in this draft.

There. Done.


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