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Pitt Gorilla 10-03-2022 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16505873)
Yeah, it's a big part of it for sure.

We just shouldn't lose sight of the improvements we've made in front of, and behind, him. Because the whole defense is playing significantly better against the run than they have at any point in Mahomes' career.
Agreed.

Hammock Parties 10-03-2022 02:29 PM
the bucs appeared to just friggin give up on the run after they stuffed it for the 2nd time in the 1st quarter though

they knew they were cooked up front and the only way to beat mahomes was going to be brady

that kind of respect on our defense hasn't been seen in a long time

carcosa 10-03-2022 02:30 PM
kc chiefs #1 best !

TomBarndtsTwin 10-03-2022 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16505852)
Cook had a very nice game.

But the run defense is a combination of several things.

1. The defensive line is doing a much better job this year of executing against the run. Chris Jones has improved dramatically and the guys playing the other DT spot are doing well too.

2. The LB's are just flat better than what we've had before.

3. The DB's, especially when we're in nickel and dime, are tackling better than in the past.
All of these are great points, but Jones has been an animal this year so far. It may not be reflected in the sack numbers, but he's been destroying people up front.

I was ready to let him walk this year after last season, but he has turned it up another notch this year. I don't know if it's pride, money, etc. but you almost have to extend him now. That D-Line would NOT be the same without him.

He may not be Aaron Donald, but he's the next best thing . . . . .

smithandrew051 10-03-2022 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16505885)
kc chiefs #1 best !
Holy shoot. I was literally just thinking about this!

htismaqe 10-03-2022 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16505886)
All of these are great points, but Jones has been an animal this year so far. It may not be reflected in the sack numbers, but he's been destroying people up front.

I was ready to let him walk this year after last season, but he has turned it up another notch this year. I don't know if it's pride, money, etc. but you almost have to extend him now. That D-Line would NOT be the same without him.

He may not be Aaron Donald, but he's the next best thing . . . . .
Yep.

carcosa 10-03-2022 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16505889)
Holy shoot. I was literally just thinking about this!
i no thats rite!

htismaqe 10-03-2022 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16505876)
It's about 75% the linebackers. We haven't had good LBs since Johnson and our run D has been terrible since. People want to blame the DL, but good LBs lead to good run D.
Even good LB's can't make plays consistently with offensive linemen in their face.

I'd say it's 50% LB play, 25% line, and 25% secondary.

dlphg9 10-03-2022 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 16505886)
All of these are great points, but Jones has been an animal this year so far. It may not be reflected in the sack numbers, but he's been destroying people up front.

I was ready to let him walk this year after last season, but he has turned it up another notch this year. I don't know if it's pride, money, etc. but you almost have to extend him now. That D-Line would NOT be the same without him.

He may not be Aaron Donald, but he's the next best thing . . . . .
He was still getting to the passer even last year. Don't know why people so quickly dismiss what he's doing as a DT. No one has been even close to him as a pass rusher on this D for many years.

Without him we would be absolute dog shit at rushing the passer.

htismaqe 10-03-2022 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16505897)
He was still getting to the passer even last year. Don't know why people so quickly dismiss what he's doing as a DT. No one has been even close to him as a pass rusher on this D for many years.

Without him we would be absolute dog shit at rushing the passer.
Chris Jones run defense was pretty poor until recently. Nobody is dismissing his pass rush ability but his improvement in run defense is noticeable, and welcome.

TomBarndtsTwin 10-03-2022 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16505900)
Chris Jones run defense was pretty poor until recently. Nobody is dismissing his pass rush ability but his improvement in run defense is noticeable, and welcome.
Yes, this is what I was trying to say. If it didn't come across that way, my bad.

He has SIGNIFICANTLY, NOTICEABLY improved on run defense.

smithandrew051 10-03-2022 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16505900)
Chris Jones run defense was pretty poor until recently. Nobody is dismissing his pass rush ability but his improvement in run defense is noticeable, and welcome.
What if we moved him out to DE?????

htismaqe 10-03-2022 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 16505934)
What if we moved him out to DE?????
He played a couple of snaps at DE last night. :D

RunKC 10-03-2022 03:21 PM
Give Brendan Daley credit. Darius Harris has looked ****ing awesome this year.

It’s like him, Danna and Saunders took huge steps forward this yesr

htismaqe 10-03-2022 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 16505980)
Give Brendan Daley credit. Darius Harris has looked ****ing awesome this year.

It’s like him, Danna and Saunders took huge steps forward this yesr
They aren't the only ones, either. Everybody is playing pretty well right now.


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