I didn’t imagine that then! I kept watching the replay looking for 97 to come flying in with a late hit and it never happened. I wasn’t sure if they misspoke or I misheard. Is appropriate that they ****ed the number up along with the call.

Carl Cheffers explanation:

“Even though Carr was being sacked, he deserves the full protection of the RTP”.

Follow up: “Even though it was a fumble”?

Cheffers: “yes”.

All of that makes sense to me.

The rule itself doesn't.

Can't lose sight of the fact that it was a fabulous play by Jones, especially for a big lineman. To strip the ball, maintain possession and to break your fall so as NOT to land on the QB in the process is very athletic. Very impressive.

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And that's fine. But there actually has to be some roughing going on. Chris Jones did absolutely nothing that could be considered roughing the passer. He even propped himself up on his arm as he fell to avoid falling on Carr.

Carl Cheffers is obviously a dumb ****.

As is the case more than ever in this league, Cheffers called what he thought he saw. But you know he never saw the fumble/strip.

The catch/no catch was a huge overturn. But they took the time to get it right. To allow that call to stand, is just a terrible precedent.

Even with out the fumble it’s horse shit. I don’t care if the QB is involved or not, it’s tackle football and if you have the ball your ass is fair game to be tackled.

They just continue to erode the integrity of the game. It may not seem possible to most right now but, it is possible to kill the golden goose.

By rule the fumble doesn't matter if a penalty is involved. So whether or not he saw it is irrelevant. You can still rough a passer after he throws the ball so logically you can still rough a passer on a strip sack. However, this whole landing with your body weight on a player you are tackling is just dumb as ****.

Full statement.

ROFLliar

Thanks. I had looked right past that in my anger

An interesting point is that Jones has possession of the ball.

Can a player with possession of the ball get called for roughing the passer?

Let’s say it’s a tipped ball, he catches it with two hands and lands full body weight on the QB while catching it. Is that RTP?

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Instead, the defensive player must strive to wrap up the passer with the defensive player’s arms and not land on the passer with all or most of his body weight.

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How can you be expected to do that while possessing the ball.

There was still the serious holding on Chris Jones on the final drive they didn't call.

That was blatant non call.