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ChiefsFanatic 12-06-2022 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16649975)
No they weren't always top of the league in turnover differential. Marty's defenses were always up and down year to year.



It's useless to romanticize a history that isn't true.

I think you are wrong. When I get a chance I will hit football reference to get the numbers

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Baby Lee 12-06-2022 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16649975)
No they weren't always top of the league in turnover differential. Marty's defenses were always up and down year to year.

It's useless to romanticize a history that isn't true.

I have absolutely no interest in discussing this era of Chiefs history with you, but since you are citing accuracy as the primary metric, 'wasn't always top of the league' should be tempered with 'led the league for the decade'

1990-1999, Chiefs were head and shoulders above everyone in TO differential.

scho63 12-06-2022 09:06 PM

There was some egregious misses; the swing passes 3-4 yards behind the line of scrimmage that turned into big gains comes to mind.
The 4 Chiefs on 2 Bengals that went from a loss to a first down symbolized the mess we had become.

ChiefsFanatic 12-06-2022 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 16650992)
I have absolutely no interest in discussing this era of Chiefs history with you, but since you are citing accuracy as the primary metric, 'wasn't always top of the league' should be tempered with 'led the league for the decade'



1990-1999, Chiefs were head and shoulders above everyone in TO differential.

My point in bringing it up was someone said that tackling is taught from Pop Warner day one, and I was saying teams excel in what their coaches emphasize.

I cited Marty with takeaways, and Buddy Ryan/Dick LeBeau with tackling. I asked what does Spags emphasize, because it's obviously neither of those.

Someone else said he emphasizes pressure, but while that does disrupt some offenses, it's not enough to win games against top tier offenses and QBs.

Spags has had 12 quarters tho year, and still can't figure out how to sack a very sackable QB. This is a huge failure on his part considering the rest of the league doesn't seem to have any issues sacking Burrow.

I just don't think Spags is the DC for this team. Also, D'Alesio needs to be gone, because our safeties have been horrible.

And maybe Merritt isn't the coach for developing young corners.

The defense looked great shutting down King Henry in the second half, but we won't be playing rookie QBs making their first start in the playoffs.

I just can't stand Spags and don't get why others go to ridiculous lengths to defend him.

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Gary Cooper 12-06-2022 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 16650992)
I have absolutely no interest in discussing this era of Chiefs history with you, but since you are citing accuracy as the primary metric, 'wasn't always top of the league' should be tempered with 'led the league for the decade'

1990-1999, Chiefs were head and shoulders above everyone in TO differential.

Because they had a great pass rush with Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith. It's VERY difficult to force turnovers without a consistent pass rush.

Also, as much as people hated him, Marcus Peters was great at taking the ball away. So was Mathieu. We don't have any ball hogs on this defense.


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