Veach will be attacking OT and DE like bruce bogtrotter on chocolate cake.

or a hemophiliac through a package of bandaids!!!!!

Hmm, this is always people dreaming that we will have all this mountain of cap space and just a few people all new to sign.
We will have, as of now, 25 FA to sign or replace that count on this year's salary cap for more than that cap space you reference.

That’s what he’s making this year give or take. Come on man

no on obj people. Stop it

Spend every penny on Oline. We need to break records for Oline payroll every year we have Mahomes.

Gimme Ngadakoueoueoue, he's better than any edge we have, and I'll take old man JJ Watt for the limited snaps crusty veteran Suggs/Ingram/Dunlap role. He'd be a good mentor for Karlaftis, too.

Then give me a mountain of a NT. Just a huge ass Jabba the ****ing Hutt mother****er.

I'd definitely focus more on defense. With weak tackles, an average running game and average WRs, the offense is still the best the league. Even with all the talent in the world on the offensive side of the ball, a drive (or game) can still be wrecked by a penalty or fumble. The margin for error is too small against good teams and there's too much pressure on the offense to produce on every possession.

We need a DL that is consistently disruptive and an upgrade for Thornhill.

I disagree. We have the best qb in the nfl. Give him playmakers. He can do damage with a solid OL. Solid doesn’t mean shitty tackles. Solid means good. If you have playmakers you don’t need an OL as much. I love mahomes’ progression as an efficient qb. But I’d much rather let him sling it. We can win these games where our OL isn’t their best. What makes me more uncomfortable is when we get bodied by these physical teams where we just aren’t getting our WRs open fast enough.

Buffalo and Cincinnati are great examples of why I don’t love this. There are offenses that are just really really good and they’re going to get theirs against us. We can beat these teams in shootouts. I don’t love having to beat these guys with a balance of defense and an offense that does just enough.

Over the past few years what has lost it for us in the playoffs? Last year it was our offense. The year before our offensive line. Hell the defense bailed our offense out in the Super Bowl until we got it together in the 4th.

Our offense has become very efficient. But we know we are capable of so much more than that. We still have games like cincy and Tennessee and vs the rams where we are really really grinding for yards. Our production really downplays that these games were really difficult for our offense. Our WRs don’t match up well against really physical teams. And some teams have been able to figure out kelce just enough to make it real difficult for everyone else. Hell, we don’t necessarily have this version of kelce for too too long. We know mahomes can power his way through these games but he shouldn’t have to. We know he can flat out dominate if you surround him with talent.

I think veach has shown he can still build a solid defense without a whole lot of resources. It does feel like he needs a lot of investment to make them truly great. Meanwhile, do you think any defense is stopping us if we add a mclaurin or metcalf?

As much as I'd love to see Veach going up top for a guy like Jalin Hyatt to make this offense more explosive, you have to fix what ails you.

Right now, what ails KC is terrible tackle play.

It's difficult to get a starting caliber LT outside of the top 15. If you're going to get one, you have to make a serious investment. If you're not making that investment, you usually have an aging tackle and can find a nice project guy in the 3rd to 4th to develop.

League-wide, here's the distribution for Left and Right Tackles (AVE = average pick in that round, % = Count in that round out of 32 teams) using initial starters (i.e. before injuries happened):

If you swap Trevor Penning (R1-19) for James Hurst (CFA), that puts the league at 60% of LTs coming from Rnd 1.

Obviously, it's not necessary to take a tackle in round 1 but your best bet to get a starter is in that round on either side. At a minimum, it's best to take either by the end of Day 2 (78% of LTs taken by then and 72% of RTs).

I can't fathom Veach targeting an offensive playmaker right now when he not only needs to fix the atrocious tackle situation but also needs to fix the defensive line. Fixing the O-line will open this offense up as much as another playmaker will and Pat won't be running for his life and have injury risk.

You can upgrade terrible to average. I agree we can’t just leave a hole but you don’t have to put top 10 money into it either. Based on what we saw from veach his two places he wanted a big swing was wr and DE.

I think mahomes and Reid’s greatness is overrating our WRs. We shouldn’t just expect our pass offense to be efficient and for mahomes to carry all the water. We have the coach and qb to be elite. And while mahomes has been magical, games like Tennessee, cincy and buffalo were challenging for us offensively. We struggle with defenses who play very physical against our WRs. Several of our WRs disappear in stretches.

The reality is our defense can only do so much against powerhouse offenses line Cincinnati and buffalo. And in each of our biggest games (cincy 2x, and buffalo) it wasn’t the blocking or defense that let us down. It’s because we didn’t score on our last possessions. I just think you need to build the best possible passing game, and then you work hard to try to make the rest of the team as good as possible. I just don’t see a stud tackle moving that needle nearly as much as a stud WR

some don't want rings, they simply want the money :thumb:

He was 8 million the year before he signed with us.

This year his cap number is 3 but incentives can bring him closer to 9, not sure which he hit.