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chiefzilla1501 12-26-2022 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16690095)
Hardman had never missed a game before this year. You best not depend on Toney suddenly becoming Cal Ripken.

He may be an option like last years McKinnon where you use him sparingly in the season then go heavy toward the playoffs. I’d prefer not to lose hardman but I don’t think you can justify what another team is willing to pay him. When Toney is on the field he does a lot of the same things, but also offers more on YAC and all the in between that aren’t just hitches and deep routes. During the season you can use skyy to fill in some of those reps.

Marcellus 12-26-2022 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16690098)
He may be an option like last years McKinnon where you use him sparingly in the season then go heavy toward the playoffs. I’d prefer not to lose hardman but I don’t think you can justify what another team is willing to pay him. When Toney is on the field he does a lot of the same things, but also offers more on YAC and all the in between that aren’t just hitches and deep routes. During the season you can use skyy to fill in some of those reps.

It’s going to come down to wether or not Hardman wants more money or wants to be a Chief. I’m guessing how the season ends may play a huge roll.

TwistedChief 12-26-2022 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16690178)
It’s going to come down to wether or not Hardman wants more money or wants to be a Chief. I’m guessing how the season ends may play a huge roll.

There's a zero percent chance that Hardman is a guy who would ever choose to remain a Chief just to win more games. That's no disrespect to him. He's a very high upside guy who I'm sure feels that in the right situation with the right targets could actually be elite. I'm deepy skeptical as he has at many times in his career played a lot of dumb and careless football but seems to have at least cleaned that up a bit.

I don't entirely trust Toney from a health standpoint but I think we're in a much better place to spend the Hardman money on retaining JuJu and not cutting MVS.

scho63 12-26-2022 08:28 PM

Hardman does come off immature.

Megatron96 12-26-2022 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16690432)
Hardman does come off immature.

He’s 24.

BWillie 12-27-2022 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16690071)
We have Toney to fill the Hardman role.

I don’t think Hardman can fill the MVS role.

Ie, I’d rather have Toney and MVS next year than Toney and Hardman and I’m pretty sure that’s how things are gonna end up.

Have to agree. Toney and Hardman arent exactly alike but are similar. You would rather have Toney and MVS than Toney and Hardman. Although the Chiefs can get out of the MVS contract pretty easily after this year. I hope there is a better option 3.

Sign a god damned WR1. Whatever it takes.

If I'm JuJu I'm just going to the highest bidder. Its his chance finally to secure the bag. No reason to take any discount at all to remain a Chief.

DenverChief 12-27-2022 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16690573)
He’s 24.

Exactly lol some old farts around here forgot what they were like at 24 :LOL: then sprinkle in the fact he gets paid handsomely to play a game...

Rasputin 12-27-2022 10:17 PM

Travis Kelce does more immature acts than Hardman and lots of players are immature.

stevieray 12-27-2022 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 16690055)
Groupie?

You're still humping my leg over it, years later.


hard to belize, yet here you are.

ChiefAshhole1056 12-27-2022 11:05 PM

I think Hardman is ready to take advantage of a market that a year ago paid Christain Kirk $18 mil a year. Teams pay for speed and he has shown enough to get other teams interested. Think his salary ends up being not much behind Juju’s and for me I’d rather secure Juju and find other speed options in the draft.

Rasputin 12-27-2022 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16690432)
Hardman does come off immature.

Andy Reid draws mustaches on players faces when they're sleeping on the flight home.

KCJake 12-27-2022 11:21 PM

Any updates on this season ? Is he playing Sunday ?

Couch-Potato 12-27-2022 11:25 PM

I appreciate you optimism.

kevrunner 12-28-2022 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 16690178)
It’s going to come down to wether or not Hardman wants more money or wants to be a Chief. I’m guessing how the season ends may play a huge roll.

I’d really be surprised if Hardman resigns at a discounted price only because this might be his only chance at big $$$. He really didn’t make a lot of money off of his 1st contract. I think he averaged about $1.25 million year on his rookie deal. I’m sure after taxes, helping family members and other obligations, he isn’t set up financially yet. This might be his only chance to set him and his family financially for life. I searched to see what teams might pursue Hardman in free agency and the Browns and Raiders were mentioned.

BossChief 12-28-2022 12:50 AM

Sone one will likely pay Mecole as a high end #2WR due to his speed, but he won’t be worth it.

I’d love to have him back as a high end gadget player salary, but that’s where it ends for me.

Depending on how free agency shakes out, I can see us being savvy in this upcoming FA period snd possibly bringing either Mecole or Juju back on a new deal that’s reasonable…but I’ll be surprised if both don’t want to test FA.


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