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KC_Lee 01-08-2023 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16720921)
This is not level-headed. At all. But it's a lot of fun to watch:
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That designed cut back run was just nasty in the best way possible.

Chris Meck 01-08-2023 08:06 AM

I just want to be clear-

I watched Stidham carve up a very good 49'ers defense six days before we destroyed him.

No, it's not Burrow or Allen, but he looked very, very good against a relatively healthy, extremely talented 49'ers defense.

And Adams, Waller, Renfrow and Jacobs is a pretty nice group of weapons.

stevieray 01-08-2023 08:39 AM

Most complete game of the season.


Right on time for the playoffs.

MahomesMagic 01-08-2023 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 16721024)
Most complete game of the season.


Right on time for the playoffs.

The Chiefs treated this like a playoff game...because it was.

We are on to the next round while everyone else beats the hell out of each other.

Buehler445 01-08-2023 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16720990)
I just want to be clear-

I watched Stidham carve up a very good 49'ers defense six days before we destroyed him.

No, it's not Burrow or Allen, but he looked very, very good against a relatively healthy, extremely talented 49'ers defense.

And Adams, Waller, Renfrow and Jacobs is a pretty nice group of weapons.

I gotta think the 9ers mailed it in from an effort standpoint. Much like our team has several times this year. Or they biffed it from a gameplanning perspective because there was no film on Stidham.

It’s the only way. No way our defense is orders of magnitude better than the 9ers.

HC_Chief 01-08-2023 09:08 AM

1. No turnovers.
2. No ST ****ups.
3. Front four got pressure.

The boys played a clean game, and the result was a spanking. They thumped the faid and beat the spread.

Chris Meck 01-08-2023 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16721051)
I gotta think the 9ers mailed it in from an effort standpoint. Much like our team has several times this year. Or they biffed it from a gameplanning perspective because there was no film on Stidham.

It’s the only way. No way our defense is orders of magnitude better than the 9ers.

Well, yeah, perhaps to some extent. But individual match-ups and scheme were part of it.

We learned in our 49'ers game that you can neutralize Bosa to some extent by running right at him or by him. You can use his over-aggressiveness to your advantage. Just as an example.

Also; I think the 49'ers defense is a little overrated and got fat statistically by being in the NFC, which I think is clearly NOT as strong as the AFC.

But it's a good defense, for sure.

In our case, I think our defense is better than a lot of people give it credit for; and KC's tendency to fumble, drop passes, and throw INT's at inopportune moments have put the defense in bad situations a lot. Add in 6 rookies out of your top 12 defenders, and it's easy to see why you might have some issues.

If KC plays complementary football and executes well, they'll beat anyone. Start making multiple mistakes, and the margin of error becomes very slim.

Buehler445 01-08-2023 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16721072)
Well, yeah, perhaps to some extent. But individual match-ups and scheme were part of it.

We learned in our 49'ers game that you can neutralize Bosa to some extent by running right at him or by him. You can use his over-aggressiveness to your advantage. Just as an example.

Also; I think the 49'ers defense is a little overrated and got fat statistically by being in the NFC, which I think is clearly NOT as strong as the AFC.

But it's a good defense, for sure.

In our case, I think our defense is better than a lot of people give it credit for; and KC's tendency to fumble, drop passes, and throw INT's at inopportune moments have put the defense in bad situations a lot. Add in 6 rookies out of your top 12 defenders, and it's easy to see why you might have some issues.

If KC plays complementary football and executes well, they'll beat anyone. Start making multiple mistakes, and the margin of error becomes very slim.

Yeah, agreed.

I posted in DCs defensive statistical analysis thread that I was appalled that this defenses numbers were worse than prior years. I trust this defense much more than in prior years.

Bearcat 01-08-2023 09:27 AM

It's probably a testament to their awful schedule + the Chiefs having a bye week.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With the Raiders’ loss to KC, the 49ers have officially made NFL history: <br><br>Every single one of SF’s opponents this season lost its next game, if they’ve played the following week. 0-15. That’d never happened before. Might be a testament to 49ers’ uniquely physical style</p>&mdash; David Lombardi (@LombardiHimself) <a href="https://twitter.com/LombardiHimself/status/1611879752176128000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 8, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

scho63 01-08-2023 09:28 AM

I thought the condition of the Raider's turf was excellent.

Neither team tearing up chunks of field, no major slip and falls, no injuries.

It better not be on either Phoenix or Cincy, two shitty fields.

HC_Chief 01-08-2023 09:43 AM

This year's personnel on offense is the best we have seen under Reid.
With JJSS, Toney, Hardman, Kelce, and McKinnon in on the same play, what can you do on D? Any of those guys can kill you. Then mix in Pacheco, a legit power AND speed back, MVS and Watson, who can sprint like a track star, Bell and Gray to spell Kelce, Jones coming on at RB to spell Pacheco and McKinnon; Skyy Moore starting to make plays (prior to lacerated hand)... damn. As long as MVPatrick can be protected (OL), this is one explosive offense that can beat you in any way.

Spags D needs to keep generating pressure with the front four; the kicking game needs to be consistent. Combined with this offense, this team is unstoppable. Simply do not revert to the sloppy play, and we hoist Lombardi #2 for Reid.

Easy 6 01-08-2023 10:39 AM

You're right about Danna, he's really been proving himself to be solid depth

Skyy God 01-08-2023 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 16720287)
Isn't it amazing when you have;
1. Little to no penalties
2. No turnovers
3. No ST ****ups

Where did I hear that before? :thumb:

From some fat, self congratulatory, Debbie Downer whore****er, probs.

chiefzilla1501 01-08-2023 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 16721129)
This year's personnel on offense is the best we have seen under Reid.
With JJSS, Toney, Hardman, Kelce, and McKinnon in on the same play, what can you do on D? Any of those guys can kill you. Then mix in Pacheco, a legit power AND speed back, MVS and Watson, who can sprint like a track star, Bell and Gray to spell Kelce, Jones coming on at RB to spell Pacheco and McKinnon; Skyy Moore starting to make plays (prior to lacerated hand)... damn. As long as MVPatrick can be protected (OL), this is one explosive offense that can beat you in any way.

Spags D needs to keep generating pressure with the front four; the kicking game needs to be consistent. Combined with this offense, this team is unstoppable. Simply do not revert to the sloppy play, and we hoist Lombardi #2 for Reid.

I’ll continue to disagree. Again I think we have a wizard with Andy reid and a GOAT in mahomes and another GOAT in kelce. I love the 1-2 of Pacheco and McKinnon. We certainly have the most well rounded offense we’ve ever had.

But we’ve seen several teams in the second half make us look less dominant. There are teams like tennessee and New England that knock the shit out of kelce and also our WRs. I think we saw some of that too in Jacksonville. It really throws off our timing. Others like Derwin James who make it really hard on kelce.

We haven’t proven to be bulletproof against cover corners. Which is going to make our playoff run though with cincy having two and with tredavius white looming. Because those teams can easily neutralize our WRs because we still don’t have a true WR1. And teams are running a shitload of man coverage because our WRs can’t consistently beat it. There are so many games where our WRs flat out disappear in stretches

And then there’s the OL. Which I still think has been a bit overblown because we continue to play well in spite of a horrendous RT. But we’re going to see sime elite pass rushers in the playoffs. Teams who can pressure AND have secondaries who can cover.

So again, I agree our offense is very dangerous going into the playoffs. And we can win it all IF our defense plays well. I want to stop short of saying it’s unstoppable.

WilliamTheIrish 01-08-2023 11:06 AM

Turnovers are the great equalizer. We had none. It's a formula that works.


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