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htismaqe 03-03-2023 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 16835815)
Thuney has played great. Again, all of this stress can be solved by getting rid of the weak link on the line (I'm not counting Wylie)...he's the worst out of our OL guys and he wants by far the most money. Orlando needs to take his desire for a 25M deal to another team.

This OBJ thing is an easy choice IMO.

Every indication is that the Chiefs don't feel this way at all. OBJ will, in all likelihood, be back.

raybec 4 03-03-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mkp785 (Post 16835815)
Thuney has played great. Again, all of this stress can be solved by getting rid of the weak link on the line (I'm not counting Wylie)...he's the worst out of our OL guys and he wants by far the most money. Orlando needs to take his desire for a 25M deal to another team.

This OBJ thing is an easy choice IMO.

I just don't think the team agrees that he's not worth it. They genuinely seem to want to keep him.

mkp785 03-03-2023 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16835823)
Every indication is that the Chiefs don't feel this way at all. OBJ will, in all likelihood, be back.

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16835846)
I just don't think the team agrees that he's not worth it. They genuinely seem to want to keep him.

I'm sure they want to keep him. I want to keep him. I don't want to do it at the cost of Snead/Jones/Creed/Smith....he's not worth all of that. I guess we'll see if Veach agrees with me, as I don't think OBJ is playing on the tag OR coming down off his desired price tag.

Chris Meck 03-03-2023 05:12 PM

I think a lot of you guys are sticking your heads in the sand and just flat refusing to look at reality.

Brown is not going to come off of his demands.

htismaqe 03-03-2023 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16836158)
I think a lot of you guys are sticking your heads in the sand and just flat refusing to look at reality.

Brown is not going to come off of his demands.

Then the Chiefs are about to make him one of the highest paid LT's in the game, if not the highest.

He's not going anywhere.

Chris Meck 03-03-2023 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16836164)
Then the Chiefs are about to make him one of the highest paid LT's in the game, if not the highest.

He's not going anywhere.

No ****in' way.

If Veach wouldn't pay Hill, who actually IS elite that kind of money, he's not going to do it for Brown.

He might tag him and play him and draft his replacement; he might tag him and trade him, Brown might somehow come to his senses and sign a reasonable deal-but I think those options are in order of likelihood.

mkp785 03-03-2023 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16836170)
No ****in' way.

If Veach wouldn't pay Hill, who actually IS elite that kind of money, he's not going to do it for Brown.

He might tag him and play him and draft his replacement; he might tag him and trade him, Brown might somehow come to his senses and sign a reasonable deal-but I think those options are in order of likelihood.

Agree 100%

I don't see a world where OBJ is making 150 or whatever with a massive chunk guaranteed here. Tyreek was and is a MUCH better player than Orlando and he got sent packing. Adding into the situation Jones, Snead, Creed and Smith all needing extensions and all of them also being much better players.

Doesn't seem like it fits Veach. I guess we'll see.

Titty Meat 03-04-2023 12:33 AM

Depends what the compensation would be

Chargem 03-04-2023 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16835316)
Man the more we REALLY look at the numbers, the more I think tagging and trading Brown is the way to go if at all possible.

If the goal is to compete EVERY year for a SB, I think it's the wise move. Brown is a good but not great player, and we just shouldn't overpay for that production.

This was exactly my thoughts, if I was going to do a mock for the forum this year (most years I manage one) I would be doing it on the basis of a Brown Tag and Trade... I just don't know what a realistic return is?

Chargem 03-04-2023 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16836164)
Then the Chiefs are about to make him one of the highest paid LT's in the game, if not the highest.

He's not going anywhere.

I agree this is probably the most likely outcome, even if it isn't what I would do.

It's a fascinating situation, the Chiefs clearly love Brown and Clark, but surely one or both has to go. I have no clue what will happen, there isn't even enough cap space to tag Brown currently.

Stryker 03-04-2023 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16836170)
No ****in' way.

If Veach wouldn't pay Hill, who actually IS elite that kind of money, he's not going to do it for Brown.

He might tag him and play him and draft his replacement; he might tag him and trade him, Brown might somehow come to his senses and sign a reasonable deal-but I think those options are in order of likelihood.

I agree completely!

I think there is going to be a lot of changes on our team heading into the draft. I also feel something will happen during free agency as well as after the June 1st cuts. I think Veach has a plan and it will "reshape" our team going into the 2023 season. Change is good and it is headed our way.

Titty Meat 03-05-2023 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16836170)
No ****in' way.

If Veach wouldn't pay Hill, who actually IS elite that kind of money, he's not going to do it for Brown.

He might tag him and play him and draft his replacement; he might tag him and trade him, Brown might somehow come to his senses and sign a reasonable deal-but I think those options are in order of likelihood.

The difference is you have a generational Coach/QB with a HOF tight end in which you can still make the offense work. Can you do that without a solid LT? I'd argue Brown is a top 10 LT. Sure you can draft one but that's always a crapshoot. What free agent are you going to find who can produce at a high level? I think HTIS is right with this one. Alot of people might not like it but it's too important of a position to gamble on.

htismaqe 03-06-2023 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16836170)
No ****in' way.

If Veach wouldn't pay Hill, who actually IS elite that kind of money, he's not going to do it for Brown.

He might tag him and play him and draft his replacement; he might tag him and trade him, Brown might somehow come to his senses and sign a reasonable deal-but I think those options are in order of likelihood.

You're probably going to be disappointed then.

They're not letting their starting LT walk after winning a Super Bowl.

O.city 03-06-2023 09:00 AM

Hill is a better WR than Brown is a LT. We all agree.

But that's just not the way this should be viewed in my opinion. It's so much easier to find WR's, as they showed this year.

We saw in 2020 what can happen when the LT spot falls apart.

htismaqe 03-06-2023 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16838973)
Hill is a better WR than Brown is a LT. We all agree.

But that's just not the way this should be viewed in my opinion. It's so much easier to find WR's, as they showed this year.

We saw in 2020 what can happen when the LT spot falls apart.

Exactly.

In this case, a bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush.


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