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Chiefshrink 03-30-2023 07:22 PM

I don't follow college football. Does this guy have the mental aptitude for the NFL game at QB??? Obviously Mahomes did and does and continues to grow to stay ahead of DCs. I absolutely love the fact that Pat challenges Andy to challenge him all the time about growing as a QB to this day. I don't care how super athletic, cannon arm a QB has, IF he is not a student of the game and chooses to continue to NOT being a student of the game he will go by the wayside fairly quickly.

staylor26 03-30-2023 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16883085)
I'm a Florida fan and very familiar with Richardson. The guy has all the talent in the world but is such a project and I don't love his processing.

If the Chiefs had a top-10 pick pre-Mahomes and drafted the guy, I'd be excited but also insanely scared. He could set an organization back several years because his floor is really, really low.

(Conversely, his ceiling is really, really high.)

It's gonna be very interesting to see where he lands.

Becuase of the running/athletic ability, I honestly don't think his floor is really all that low.

I saw somebody say that his floor is basically Justin Fields last year. I think that's probably accurate.

Chiefshrink 03-30-2023 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16883085)
I don't love his processing.

You answered my question. However, is he willing to grow as a student? Remains to be seen.

tredadda 03-30-2023 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16883085)
I'm a Florida fan and very familiar with Richardson. The guy has all the talent in the world but is such a project and I don't love his processing.

If the Chiefs had a top-10 pick pre-Mahomes and drafted the guy, I'd be excited but also insanely scared. He could set an organization back several years because his floor is really, really low.

(Conversely, his ceiling is really, really high.)

It's gonna be very interesting to see where he lands.

This is why I think he goes very high. That potential is why a GM with an offensive minded HC will draft him. Stroud and Young are good, but not generational good. They might have a higher floor, but a lower ceiling.

tredadda 03-30-2023 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink (Post 16883104)
You answered my question. However, is he willing to grow as a student? Remains to be seen.

Sounds like Josh Allen coming out. He’s the other reason (outside Mahomes) why QBs like Richardson will get drafted higher than normal.

carcosa 03-30-2023 07:42 PM

In this draft, he's who I'd want if we didn't have Mahomes. Just take the biggest swing possible on the guy with the highest upside. The other three consensus first rounders aren't sure enough things, imho, to not just say **** it and take a risk.

tredadda 03-30-2023 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 16883133)
In this draft, he's who I'd want if we didn't have Mahomes. Just take the biggest swing possible on the guy with the highest upside. The other three consensus first rounders aren't sure enough things, imho, to not just say **** it and take a risk.

Yip. Rarely are there “no doubt” QBs that come out like Burrow. As such, go for the highest ceiling guy.

Pablo 03-30-2023 07:59 PM

55% is atrocious. What was Allen’s we all made fun of like 58%?

TwistedChief 03-30-2023 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16883129)
Sounds like Josh Allen coming out. He’s the other reason (outside Mahomes) why QBs like Richardson will get drafted higher than normal.

Most QBs who look like Josh Allen and have his first couple years never figure it out. He's a terrible comp in these situations but it's one a lot more people are willing to make right now.

TwistedChief 03-30-2023 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16883101)
Becuase of the running/athletic ability, I honestly don't think his floor is really all that low.

I saw somebody say that his floor is basically Justin Fields last year. I think that's probably accurate.

I totally understand that thought process. I'm not even saying the guy will be bad (and am really pulling for him as he's a good kid). I'm just saying I think there's certainly scope for him to end up disappointing in a material way, especially if he finds himself in the wrong situation.

And while Fields doesn't have the athleticism of Richardson, he's leagues more evolved as an actual QB. If Fields and Richardson were in the same draft class, I'd definitely take Fields.

tredadda 03-30-2023 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 16883156)
Most QBs who look like Josh Allen and have his first couple years never figure it out. He's a terrible comp in these situations but it's one a lot more people are willing to make right now.

Who else is there then? High upside with with questionable processing coming out. Can’t really think of another QB he compares to right now. If he goes to a QB friendly coach/system he might have a chance. Wasn’t Allen pretty bad until Daboll came in?

Buehler445 03-30-2023 08:12 PM

I’ll laugh if it’s Baltimore.

Titty Meat 03-30-2023 08:12 PM

Here's why I'm out on him and we will bump thos thread in 4 years to see how terribly wrong I am. His decision making is questionable, his accuracy struggles because his mechanics suck.

Before someone says Mahomes had some of the same knocks Patrick was pretty accurate and his decision making knocks came from being too aggressive. Just don't see how this guy learns all of this at the highest level.

TwistedChief 03-30-2023 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 16883166)
Who else is there then? High upside with with questionable processing coming out. Can’t really think of another QB he compares to right now. If he goes to a QB friendly coach/system he might have a chance. Wasn’t Allen pretty bad until Daboll came in?

I'd say most athletic QBs who have come out in the last generation are similar. Granted, none of them have the exact specifics of Richardson - he's absolutely better - but all of them had more college success than he did. It's hard to project him because the comps just aren't there.

And I think Daboll was there as OC from Allen's rookie season onward. Dorsey joined after year 1 and it was only in year 2 where Allen really took a step forward.

chiefzilla1501 03-30-2023 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 16882469)
People shat on Mahomes because he went to Texas Tech.

So remind me again why we’re not shitting on Stroud for going to Ohio State?

Hell, OSU’s history with churning out good pro QBs is WORSE than TT pre-Mahomes

I’m not that high on stroud. But Ryan day has a way more nfl friendly offense for QBs than any of his modern predecessors. I mean, urban and tressel were next level bad and nfl teams didn’t even try to pretend these QBs were any good.


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