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kccrow 04-25-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16915582)
Ok that is an entire position saying if they'll draft it high that is not the same as the type of players they like at a position.

McDonald doesn't check 2 boxes, he's old and he's small.

Yeah, I don't think guys like McDonald and Smith are going to be very high on Spags' wish list.

kccrow 04-25-2023 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16915611)
At the end of the day if you want an edge, get the one that fits and that guy is Murphy.

Eh, I don't think he's going to be there. I'd take the value, obviously, if he's there even though I don't feel like edge is a priority this year.

Mecca 04-25-2023 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16915619)
Eh, I don't think he's going to be there. I'd take the value, obviously, if he's there even though I don't feel like edge is a priority this year.

While I see that, Murphy is probably a 3 down player that is going to consistently get double digit sacks, that is great value after pick 20.

kccrow 04-25-2023 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16915626)
While I see that, Murphy is probably a 3 down player that is going to consistently get double digit sacks, that is great value after pick 20.

I have a really hard time seeing him going after Van Ness. I still think he's a top-15 guy in this draft.

Mecca 04-25-2023 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16915658)
I have a really hard time seeing him going after Van Ness. I still think he's a top-15 guy in this draft.

Every single person has him falling, guys in the know everyone...must be something about him.

kccrow 04-25-2023 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16915662)
Every single person has him falling, guys in the know everyone...must be something about him.

Have some sources I can look at?

Mecca 04-25-2023 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 16915731)
Have some sources I can look at?

Daniel Jeremiah has him 21st on his big board behind Van Ness.

kccrow 04-25-2023 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16915739)
Daniel Jeremiah has him 21st on his big board behind Van Ness.

I think Boylehart has him 17 after Van Ness as well. Those are still a ways from 31 and teams overdraft edge rushers with regularity. I guess it will come down to where NFL teams value Van Ness and Murphy that'll make the biggest difference. If they see them like they saw Johnson and Karlaftis last year where there is a pretty significant drop from the top couple of guys, and I'd certainly side with that being true, then they could go much later than even the pundits might think. The only differentiating factor might be the lack of top-end talent elsewhere as well as the overall need for edge talent. I also still don't see how Smith is a 1st round talent, like at all. Maybe he's a bottom of 1 guy but I'm not seeing top half the first talent where he's being ranked regularly.

BossChief 04-25-2023 01:45 PM

If we can give up 95 and a mid rounder next year to go get Van Ness or Murphy, we won the draft.

Period.

Our DL can get constant pressure without blitzing and it opens up the rest of the defense…and the DL would be deep.

Dunerdr 04-25-2023 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16915958)
If we can give up 95 and a mid rounder next year to go get Van Ness or Murphy, we won the draft.

Period.

Our DL can get constant pressure without blitzing and it opens up the rest of the defense…and the DL would be deep.

Combine that with our secondary developing and this defense should have the highest floor its had since the AS11 years.

TambaBerry 04-25-2023 05:56 PM

No shot Murphy goes outside top 15

BossChief 04-26-2023 12:02 PM

If you watch the show, he slips in that he wouldn’t be shocked if LaPorta goes a lot higher than some think…maybe even sliding into the first round.

BryanBusby 04-26-2023 01:20 PM

Not sold on LaPorta going in the first. Have heard some teams aren't liking the medicals.

MahomesMagic 04-26-2023 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 16917223)
If you watch the show, he slips in that he wouldn’t be shocked if LaPorta goes a lot higher than some think…maybe even sliding into the first round.

I like LaPorta a lot but he's not going that high. Also heard there was a medical...

siberian khatru 04-27-2023 07:41 AM

Dane Brugler in his final mock has Murphy falling to the Chiefs at 31.


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