Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16939322)

Lack of investment is included in failure to develop. You can’t just wait until the dam is broken. And when the dam is broken you have to act with some urgency. If your path is to use the draft you have to throw a lot of picks at it. And you can’t wait until the very last minute to do it which is exactly what we did. And if you rely on the draft you HAVE to hit on those picks. We needed a WR2 for years. Especially when we realized Sammy couldn’t stay on the field. We placed a ceiling on tyreek hill pay yet did nothing to groom his replacement. And even in the years after we’re duct taping things together. we’re walking into camp with a HUGE question mark at one of our OT spots. And while we have WR options, we have ?s there too.

The fact is this… when we had money we went full blast at upgrading our defense. Understandably so. Now that we have less money we’re using the best and most of our best draft picks on defense. Which is fine. But that’s unsettling when we have so many question marks on offense. I don’t know how anyone can dispute at this point that defense is getting way more attention than the offense is. We have quality starters and depth at EVERY defensive position.

Sorry I love what we’ve done with this team. But we don’t need to sugarcoat it. I get if you want to be optimistic that we’re finally addressing it. But how can anyone claim that in terms of new talent added weve graded anything but a C or lower on the two most important non qb skill positions (WR, OT)

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16939331)

Considering they've played in the most important game in all of sports 3 times in the last 4 years, I'd say whatever they're doing is working. Maybe they're not doing it the way we would but I'd say they've earned the benefit of the doubt.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16939341)

On top of addressing WR and OT we haven’t done anything to build a pipeline of young OL. So we’re trending towards spending $50m+ on interior OL which doesn’t feel like it should be a priority for a team that is being cap careful. Our defense is in a great spot but at some point you can only go far throwing bandaids on the offense. We are a little more rickety than we care to admit.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16939047)

keep in mind that during this time we were content to roll out Wylie and Reiter and everyone from remmers to wisnewski to address our interior. Instead of building a young pipeline of interior linemen we hit a red hot emergency where we had to replace all 5 OL in one offseason.

We knew we needed two starters at vital Tackle positions and have had a few years to address. We went two seasons with subpar play and once again have to scramble for immediate replacements because we couldn’t develop a single option in house.

At WR… we have not developed a single WR that has been anything but a situational guy. Maybe that changes with skyy and rashee. But historically we have not done well so the criticism is warranted. I get the optimism but in the past 2 years we’ve had bad play at Tackle and WR and we still have big time question marks at both positions going into the season. It’s not ideal and it’s the type of thing you need to address before the dam bursts not after.

Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16939365)

Can't believe CP is actually on board with building up the Chiefs in the Patriot's Way.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16939374)

Because it's unrealistic.

They've spent draft picks and money on the OL. They have had highly paid T's, highly drafted T's, highly paid Wr's, highly paid TE's.

They didn't spend high picks on WR's because they had one of the best in the league (they spent a 2nd on a WR actually while they had one).

Mahomes is making 20 percent of the cap. This is just the way it is gonna be. There's only so much to go around and they've gotta figure where they can get the most WAR out of the money left.

Sorry....but it seems to be working pretty well. Sure, it's not perfect. It's never going to be.

They haven't built a young pipeline of OL? That's just....wrong.

I'm not even sure what we're getting at here?

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16939341)

On top of addressing WR and OT we haven’t done anything to build a pipeline of young OL. So we’re trending towards spending $50m+ on interior OL which doesn’t feel like it should be a priority for a team that is being cap careful. Our defense is in a great spot but at some point you can only go far throwing bandaids on the offense. We are a little more rickety than we care to admit.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16939354)

I’m not claiming the sky is falling or saying we need radical change. Of course I love the majority of what we’re doing and respect the hell out of Veach. But it’s ok to say we aren’t perfect.

I think we’re leaning too far in the direction of creating a complete defense while asking Reid and mahomes to work with lesser ingredients. Yes we are winning despite those warts. And no greater example than putting mahomes behind an OL that was once horrible, and more recently has been very problematic on the edges. We can acknowledge our offense has still been very good while also recognizing that this is really not ideal.

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 16939373)

You make it sound very dramatic when you say "red hot emergency" and "scramble for immediate replacement". Every team does that every season. The Chiefs are just currently better at it than most. That's actually kind of the point of signing a free agent.

Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 16939429)

Think they have done everything they can to "build the pipeline". You draft and develop in house Creed and Trey Draft and attempt to develop Niang, Kinnard and now Wanya.

You can only really protect the guys on the active roster. You have really 9 spots after that you risk losing them. When your competing for Super Bowls pretty much every spot on the active roster needs to be ready for primetime at a moments notice. It is not like you can stash 3 OL that are just developmental. Your lucky to be able DL 1 and maybe keep 1 on the active roster.