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Marcellus 09-18-2023 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief (Post 17117124)
Uhm, no. You're misunderstanding.

The 'false start' thing is not being called for 'false starts.' It's getting off the line so quickly that it looks like a false start and everyone is concerned that it's going to be called a false start.

The point is that he's been using this quick get off his entire career and that's allowed him to be as effective as he's been. If now he can't do that, presumably his performance will suffer and he won't be the 20mm/yr-ish tackle we signed him to be.

That's the concern.

The refs are eyeballing it now but just like other "points of emphasis" in the past it usually settles down over the course of the season.

Also aside from the really ticky tack holding call did Smith really play poorly?

Mecca 09-18-2023 12:08 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thoughts on RT. TLDR: changing your alignment and snap count timing is difficult and leads to lack of confidence in yourself. That can bleed into your play. Jawaan will work hard to get those locked in, he’ll get back to his normal great play, and we’ll forget about all of this. <a href="https://t.co/fit1asMeUp">pic.twitter.com/fit1asMeUp</a></p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1703514545157759472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hayneplane 09-18-2023 12:17 PM

O-Line penalties have to be right up there with the most frustrating things in the game. False start are a sign of sloppy preparation and lack of focus and when to have a wizard at evading pressure like Mahomes who slips sack situations that 95% of their QBs would be snared by as a linemen your job is to recognise when to are beat and slow the player down a touch but don’t ever blatantly hold as you will regularly negate big gain plays.

ThyKingdomCome15 09-18-2023 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17117368)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thoughts on RT. TLDR: changing your alignment and snap count timing is difficult and leads to lack of confidence in yourself. That can bleed into your play. Jawaan will work hard to get those locked in, he’ll get back to his normal great play, and we’ll forget about all of this. <a href="https://t.co/fit1asMeUp">pic.twitter.com/fit1asMeUp</a></p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1703514545157759472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

First of, MS is an all timer in the Kingdom. Love that guy.

As for JW I have all the confidence in the world in him. The guy is an athlete and has really shined at times. He'll get it cleaned up. When you're playing with Patrick Mahomes in September and every team is still alive they're looking for any reason to knock the Chiefs down a notch. JW is going to bounce back and have one heck of a season.

RaidersOftheCellar 09-18-2023 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17117234)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jawaan Taylor has been worth the contract so far. On 94 pass blocking snaps, he’s only allowed two pressures, per PFF.<br><br>The penalties absolutely need to be cleaned up, but he also kinda got picked on this week.<br><br>The Chiefs are leaving him on a island and he’s holding up well.</p>&mdash; Zack Eisen (@zackeisen21) <a href="https://twitter.com/zackeisen21/status/1703807756728459592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Didn't expect to see anyone claiming this week that Taylor is worth the contract. ROFL

But he's a solid player, at least in pass-blocking. Can't have an MFing penalty on every other snap though.

JPH83 09-18-2023 12:41 PM

D Smith we're going to at least periodically need to offer help to, as we did with OBJ and Wylie. If Taylor adjusts he can still be a good pass-protector, and to be honest I think he moves well enough to not really need the extra time. Trey Smith is going to be a little up and down, not sure there's a lot we can do about that. Although we could play to his strengths more on run downs

irafreak 09-18-2023 12:46 PM

Eh they played 2 good dlines. They'll be fine. Two new tackles it's going to take time to gel. Mahomes has good time in the pocket.

Snaps need to get cleaned up. Taylor needs to adjust but not being able to get an extra step is not going to suddenly make him awful.

I'm also ok with Smith not bothering to disguise a hold. Just protect mahomes. If you get beat, tackle the guy for all I care. Mahomes is capable of picking up any down and distance.

Pitt Gorilla 09-18-2023 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar (Post 17117422)
Didn't expect to see anyone claiming this week that Taylor is worth the contract. ROFL

But he's a solid player, at least in pass-blocking. Can't have an MFing penalty on every other snap though.

He held up VERY well in pass-pro. I'm not sure how that could be missed.

Pitt Gorilla 09-18-2023 01:46 PM

Nice stunt, son.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watch 74 Jawaan Taylor <a href="https://t.co/YwrgKyQN41">pic.twitter.com/YwrgKyQN41</a></p>&mdash; Jesse Newell (@jessenewell) <a href="https://twitter.com/jessenewell/status/1703482570841727470?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

FloridaMan88 09-18-2023 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17117234)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jawaan Taylor has been worth the contract so far. On 94 pass blocking snaps, he’s only allowed two pressures, per PFF.<br><br>The penalties absolutely need to be cleaned up, but he also kinda got picked on this week.<br><br>The Chiefs are leaving him on a island and he’s holding up well.</p>&mdash; Zack Eisen (@zackeisen21) <a href="https://twitter.com/zackeisen21/status/1703807756728459592?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 18, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yesterday was the perfect storm of bullshit for Taylor to deal with.

He was arguably the most marked offensive lineman in NFL history entering the game and he was playing against his former team, near his hometown with 20+ family members in attendance.

Get back to being a “normal” anonymous right tackle this week whose PFF metrics indicate he’s actually performing well.

Toad 09-18-2023 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 17117629)
Nice stunt, son.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Watch 74 Jawaan Taylor <a href="https://t.co/YwrgKyQN41">pic.twitter.com/YwrgKyQN41</a></p>&mdash; Jesse Newell (@jessenewell) <a href="https://twitter.com/jessenewell/status/1703482570841727470?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Damn that big man gat thrown to ground by an even bigger man!

Kiimo 09-18-2023 03:55 PM

Is there any other position more in need of a first than OT though?

Balto 09-18-2023 03:55 PM

Don't watch the left side on that video. Gross

Balto 09-18-2023 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimo (Post 17117882)
Is there any other position more in need of a first than OT though?

For Chiefs? Could argue DT

New World Order 09-18-2023 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17117368)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thoughts on RT. TLDR: changing your alignment and snap count timing is difficult and leads to lack of confidence in yourself. That can bleed into your play. Jawaan will work hard to get those locked in, he’ll get back to his normal great play, and we’ll forget about all of this. <a href="https://t.co/fit1asMeUp">pic.twitter.com/fit1asMeUp</a></p>&mdash; Mitchell Schwartz (@MitchSchwartz71) <a href="https://twitter.com/MitchSchwartz71/status/1703514545157759472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Thank you Mr Mitch!!!!


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