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GloryDayz 12-11-2023 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 17273330)
Again, watch the entire play. Toney was absolutely mugged at 10 yard by two Bills, after Watson was called the series before. Should have been illegal contact and offsetting as well. These calls were made or it ignored by the same two officials who didn't call Von Miller offside and the one who called illegal contact on Watson. Just be ****ing consistent.

NFL officials call everything they see but only see what they want.

I've heard that somewhere..

ThaVirus 12-11-2023 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17273271)
Where are all those reeruns that said Toney was barely offsides?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBElDY7X...g&name=900x900

I mentioned it somewhere else but it’s possible that Creed has moved the ball from the original line of scrimmage at this point. I’m actually inclined to think that’s the case given where the defenders are lined up. Looks like the 49 yard line was the original line of scrimmage.

BUT I’m not going to blame the ref there. Someone else already mentioned it, but they could easily have gotten Jawaab Taylor for illegal formation AGAIN. He is too far back. We committed two pre-snap penalties on this one play. This is on us. Our players are ****ing stupid.

Sassy Squatch 12-11-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17273271)
Where are all those reeruns that said Toney was barely offsides?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GBElDY7X...g&name=900x900

Good ****ing God. It's actually embarrassing the way Reid and Mahomes were and are carrying on when that's the penalty.

mnchiefsguy 12-11-2023 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 17272944)
All the reports are that he didn’t check

Got a link for that? Tracy Wolfson, the sideline reporter for CBS, tweeted that she confirmed that Toney did in fact check with the refs.

notorious 12-11-2023 08:57 AM

All that Toney had to do was hold his hand up, ask the line judge "Am I good?" and he would have been fine.

It's done at every level of the game. This is just another dumb mistake by a team that makes far more than their fair share of.

Mecca 12-11-2023 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17273416)
Good ****ing God. It's actually embarrassing the way Reid and Mahomes were and are carrying on when that's the penalty.


I don't think you understand why they're mad.

They feel like they they got hosed by not getting an obvious call last week, they didn't rip the refs etc..then this week they're on the other side and for screwed too. So frustration of apparently no matter what we do we lose reached a tipping point.

tredadda 12-11-2023 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17273423)
All that Toney had to do was hold his hand up, ask the line judge "Am I good?" and he would have been fine.

It's done at every level of the game. This is just another dumb mistake by a team that makes far more than their fair share of.

That’s the problem this year. The offense doesn’t have the talent to offset their mistakes.

Sassy Squatch 12-11-2023 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17273427)
I don't think you understand why they're mad.

They feel like they they got hosed by not getting an obvious call last week, they didn't rip the refs etc..then this week they're on the other side and for screwed too. So frustration of apparently no matter what we do we lose reached a tipping point.

Every ****ing professional sports team, EVER, has had to deal with refball. You know how you mitigate it? By playing fundamentally sound and disciplined ball and taking it out of their hands as much as possible. Having your WR line up completely offsides while your RT is lined up improperly, AGAIN, is the exact opposite.

Mecca 12-11-2023 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17273438)
Every ****ing professional sports team, EVER, has had to deal with refball. You know how you mitigate it? By playing fundamentally sound and disciplined ball and taking it out of their hands as much as possible. Having your WR line up completely offsides while your RT is lined up improperly, AGAIN, is the exact opposite.


They do not have the offensive talent to overcome calls...this has reached a point of they feel targeted and know they can't just say **** it and win anyway

Sassy Squatch 12-11-2023 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17273446)
They do not have the offensive talent to overcome calls...this has reached a point of they feel targeted and know they can't just say **** it and win anyway

That's mental softness and poor coaching. Blame the organization, not the refs.

Mecca 12-11-2023 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17273449)
That's mental softness and poor coaching. Blame the organization, not the refs.


You can blame them for thinking that WR room was good enough.

RunKC 12-11-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17273438)
Every ****ing professional sports team, EVER, has had to deal with refball. You know how you mitigate it? By playing fundamentally sound and disciplined ball and taking it out of their hands as much as possible. Having your WR line up completely offsides while your RT is lined up improperly, AGAIN, is the exact opposite.

They didn't say it but they're mad bc they lost the 1 seed and they know it. That's why they were throwing hands with the Bills earlier in the game.

That was a must win game for them and they ****ed it up on a penalty that has never been called on Andy Reid or Patrick Mahomes until last night

tyreekthefreak 12-11-2023 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17273403)
I mentioned it somewhere else but it’s possible that Creed has moved the ball from the original line of scrimmage at this point. I’m actually inclined to think that’s the case given where the defenders are lined up. Looks like the 49 yard line was the original line of scrimmage.

BUT I’m not going to blame the ref there. Someone else already mentioned it, but they could easily have gotten Jawaab Taylor for illegal formation AGAIN. He is too far back. We committed two pre-snap penalties on this one play. This is on us. Our players are ****ing stupid.

Creed "always" moves ball back from line of scrimmage pre snap. No idea why.

DJJasonp 12-11-2023 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 17273446)
They do not have the offensive talent to overcome calls...this has reached a point of they feel targeted and know they can't just say **** it and win anyway


This.

In past years, 3rd and 15 was very possible.

Not anymore

Ming the Merciless 12-11-2023 09:25 AM

offensive offsides is never called

I literally can't remember the last time I've seen this called

if its something that's never called , it's just frustrating that they call it at that moment.

It probably happens a lot so them choosing to call it right then seems lame

then to top it off, they didn't call the defensive offsides right after


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