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KC_Connection 02-12-2024 10:33 AM

I also probably would have gone for it on 4th down in FG range last night in OT, particularly once we got inside the 10. Not sure if Andy would have done so, but our defense was pretty gassed by that point in the game and the 49ers were moving the ball on us.

ThaVirus 02-12-2024 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17397359)
There’s no good justification for taking the ball first.

I almost wonder if Shanahan didn’t know or remember, and then made up that analytic shit to justify it.

I think there are pros and cons, like any situation.

Taking the ball gives you the benefit of having first position if it comes to sudden death. It also gave their defense a much needed breather (they had just finished regulation on defense).

Cons are obviously giving your opponent the added benefit of knowing what’s necessary to win. Knowing that we needed to go for it on 4th down if we were out of field goal range was huge for us.

Spott 02-12-2024 10:46 AM

I just want to thank Buffalo for whining 2 years ago to get the OT ruled changed to allow us to win another Super Bowl. Somehow I don’t think this is what they had in mind.

ReynardMuldrake 02-12-2024 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17397601)
I also probably would have gone for it on 4th down in FG range last night in OT, particularly once we got inside the 10. Not sure if Andy would have done so, but our defense was pretty gassed by that point in the game and the 49ers were moving the ball on us.

Lessons learned from the 2019 AFCCG. Always be super aggressive in overtime. Because both defenses will be gassed at that point.

Ming the Merciless 02-12-2024 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17397359)
There’s no good justification for taking the ball first.

I almost wonder if Shanahan didn’t know or remember, and then made up that analytic shit to justify it.

Shanahan is full of shit

there is one justification in Shanahans mind..


he thought our D was gassed... so he pressed. he made the D take the field ..

he sacrificed deferring to Gas our D... its that simple

now he's making excuses

Shields68 02-12-2024 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Ming the Merciless (Post 17397669)
Shanahan is full of shit

there is one justification in Shanahans mind..


he thought our D was gassed... so he pressed. he made the D take the field ..

he sacrificed deferring to Gas our D... its that simple

now he's making excuses

If tied after each team having one possession, the third possession is huge. But I think the strategy to go secong and plan on going for two if both score TD's is what you have to do. Think both teams were gassed and the offense did have the advantage late game.

Shields68 02-12-2024 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17397601)
I also probably would have gone for it on 4th down in FG range last night in OT, particularly once we got inside the 10. Not sure if Andy would have done so, but our defense was pretty gassed by that point in the game and the 49ers were moving the ball on us.

As long as you did not lose ground. The only thing probably stupid penalty would have brought the field goal into play.

Skyy God 02-12-2024 11:02 AM

From the Mike Sando Athletic piece:

“Another coach questioned whether the 49ers even accounted for the rule in making their decision to receive the ball first.

“Kyle not having a dedicated game strategist on staff screwed him,” this coach said.”

jjjayb 02-12-2024 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17397359)
There’s no good justification for taking the ball first.

I almost wonder if Shanahan didn’t know or remember, and then made up that analytic shit to justify it.

The only justification is if you score a td first then the other team does too. At that point you get the opportunity to win with any score. I guess you have to have confidence that you're going to score a td.

notorious 02-12-2024 11:11 AM

Looking back, the 9ers defense had just been on the field in regulation.

It's not a bad idea to give them some more rest.

Although I don't agree with taking the ball, I can understand it.

Gary Cooper 02-12-2024 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 17397693)
The only justification is if you score a td first then the other team does too. At that point you get the opportunity to win with any score. I guess you have to have confidence that you're going to score a td.

Except the Chiefs said they were going for 2 if the 49ers scored a TD and the Chiefs answered with a TD.

Which makes sense. You go for 2 to win the game with Mahomes. Otherwise, you're putting an even more tired defense back on the field.

The scenario Shanahan describes was never going to happen anyway.

That said, it's the first ever NFL game under these new rules. Not much precedent outside of college football for how to strategize.

Coach 02-12-2024 11:17 AM

Honestly, at this point, it doesn't matter if the 49ers knew it or not. The fact is that Kyle Shanahan just cannot win the big one when it really comes down to it.

He was the OC when the Falcons had the lead and lost Super Bowl 51.
He was the HC when the 49ers had the lead and lost Super Bowl 54.
He was the HC when the 49ers had the lead and lost Super Bowl 58.

That's called a "trend".

notorious 02-12-2024 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 17397721)
Honestly, at this point, it doesn't matter if the 49ers knew it or not. The fact is that Kyle Shanahan just cannot win the big one when it really comes down to it.

He was the OC when the Falcons had the lead and lost Super Bowl 51.
He was the HC when the 49ers had the lead and lost Super Bowl 54.
He was the HC when the 49ers had the lead and lost Super Bowl 58.

That's called a "trend".

Boom.

Sygerrik 02-12-2024 11:18 AM

Shanahan's rationale makes perfect sense, unless the other team has Mr. Clutch under center.

Oops.

Ming the Merciless 02-12-2024 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sygerrik (Post 17397727)
Shanahan's rationale makes perfect sense, unless the other team has Mr. Clutch under center.

Oops.

don't forget the D! he thought he was gonna get 7 against our "gassed D"

we stopped him.TWICE .

they had to settle for 3

the D came through.


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