what is it about pregame activities before teams play the chiefs? :D

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When would the attorney get in contact with the police normally? It would seem that this should have gone to a prosecuting attorney before anything could be filed.

It’s all horseshit and you have to wonder if the McNair’s are involved, sadly.

I believe it's horseshit also, but I just can't see the benefit of a team risking totally burning their QB like this. It just doesn't make sense to me. That team is ****ed up from the top down to the bottom.

Why would the McNairs be involved? How does this benefit them?

They sold out the best WR in football for David Johnson because Easterby doesn't like baby mamas. So who knows....

Which makes me wonder what the NFL is doing behind the scenes. And if mcnair is even a little behind this and these allegations are mostly bogus, this seems like the kind of shit that gets you blackballed by other owners.

Why? So they can lose any trade value Watson has? Smart money would have been to have this happen after the trade

Does anything Easterby and his puppet does make any sense? Smart money would also have been to not have your team run by a cult leader.

Why would Houston be behind this?

If they were, then it would have made sense to trade him for a king's ransom, and THEN have the allegations come out. Now he's essentially worthless.

This stuff is nuts. He won't play in the league again at this rate. Guess we won't have to worry about Deshaun Watson anymore.

Holy moly.

Yea I’m not buying that the Texans are somehow responsible for this. That’s conspiracy theory level bs that I’m going to need some proof of. Besides, this doesn’t benefit them in any way shape or form.

The fact that the texts/DMs kind of support the claims isn’t a good look at all.

Talk about dodging a bullet if you were one of the teams trying to trade for him.

A couple clubs very likely narrowly avoided a franchise crippling cluster****.

Man that could’ve been the ultimate “because Chiefs” moment.

Imagine if we didn’t take Mahomes. Then we traded like 3 first round picks for Watson and this shit came out.

I wish the Broncos would’ve traded 4 1st round picks for him right before this news broke LMAO

The McNair connection and the timing is just too weird. Easterby is such a littlefinger it's really really
hard to rule out. Not to undermine what might have happened but this looks like the kind of stuff that constantly gets swept under the rug. Wouldn't you expect that the lawyer who brags about his relationship with the owner would be the easiest guy to get to drop this? If mcnair put even a tiny bit of effort into this? Something seems incredibly off about all this.

When we were going through the Pioli years with pastor Jack on board, would anyone be shocked if someone who spoke out against their cult suddenly got sabotaged?

Also, unless there is a major smoking gun Watsons career isn't over on this. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. His reputation is ruined but let's not compare this to rapists or serial rapists just yet. It so far looks like a guy who thought he had a certain arrangement and maybe didn't. Definitely possible it could be much worse but we'll see.

Really just comes down to how many of these allegations are legit and how many are fake.

If it’s a one time thing where he got the wrong idea, then it’s weird but probably not even a suspension.

If there prove to be multiple aggressive (key word) legitimate accusations, then he might be done for awhile at least.

:hmmm:

Looks like he will be sitting out a year and it won't be over a trade to another team.

So glad the Chiefs did not draft this guy.

I just don't understand how this benefits Houston in any way.

This tanks Watson's trade value and even if he's forced to stay, you're looking at at best a lengthy suspension and PR nightmare. That PR nightmare of course wouldn't hold a candle to the unmitigated disaster that would happen if it came to light that the Texans were behind it and they got caught trying to assassinate Watson's character.

There's just no way it's a realistic possibility that the Texans organization has any involvement in this. The risk is so much higher than the reward.

I'm not ruling out either scenario. But if the current smoking gun is the worst of it, how can you suspend deshaun without opening up every nfl interaction with a masseuse, stripper or random hookup for scrutiny? Seems like a nightmare scenario for the NFL and I'm not sure they want to set that precedent.

If this were any other team I'd agree. Texans fans would say the same about trading DeAndre Hopkins for one of the most lobsided trades in history because you disagree with his morality.

I bet Watson's atty is setting up a line, 4 miles long, of men who have had sexual favors preformed by these masseuse /hookers once their names are released.

I wonder how many of the have a business license or even are formally trained?

It's going to be a fun time as they act like virgins, they will be branded as prostitutes parading as Massage therapists..

Dude, we get it. They're a shit org, but this isn't trading away your star WR for peanuts. This is sabotaging one of the biggest trade chips in recent history and possibly ruining his career. Texans get nothing. I don't care how shitty they are run, there is no organization in sports that would do this.

You are spot on.

People underestimate how insane Jack Easterby is. The Texans couldn’t care less about winning. They are basically an NFL cult at this point.

This is creepy stuff and honestly the NFL should force McNair to sell. You really think NFL players aren’t pulling this shit constantly? Why would god damn DeShaun Watson, who could have any chick at any club in Texas, need to do this shit?

This is coordinated reputation slaughtering. It’s not about getting max return for Watson. They want to ruin him.

That’s obviously what’s happening.

Holy shit your posts are so cringey and annoying. You think woman should be sexually assaulted for not having a license to massage or for being a masseuse? Wtf kind of defense is that?

"You're honor, she is lying! She's not even licensed!"

Crowd gasps

Judge drops all charges.

Yup, it’s one of those things that makes sense on the surface, and people want to believe it, so there’s just not a lot of critical thinking going on. There’s a reason establishing “motive” is crucial to an investigation.

You're wrong, he's wrong. If this was a character assassination, then they trade him and then do it.

Pulling the "Pro athletes or rich people don't sexually assault because they can have whoever" just shows what a scummy mother****er you are.

You ever think that these people aren't use to being rejected, so they lash out?

The ownership and management of the Texans aren't smart enough to hatch some mastermind plan to **** over Watson.

They are ****ing idiots. Period.

You make a great point. It’s a classic contradiction. Are they idiots, or are they evil masterminds?

You're right!

That was a creepy line of thinking.

I bet NFL players aren't forcing themselves on women constantly. You're ****ed in the head bro

The hits just keep on cummin...

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I’ll give you that point, but raise you this one:

He could walk into any club in Texas, announce his arrival and have chicks lining up for him.

Why risk this shit? Is he that dumb?

DeAndre Hopkins was traded because Easterby disapproved of him having baby mamas. This is the same guy who likely played a huge role in spying on Todd haley and leaking multiple storied about his pizza nights, swinging, and going out to concerts. Strangely this stories started leaking out just as the Chiefs were trying to boot him.

I agree it would take a total sociopath to do this. Can we rule out that culture stickler Easterby didn't want Watsons morals or that littlefinger Easterby saw Watson as a threat to his power? The worse Watson looks, the easier it is for Easterby to stay in power. Sometimes you have to play a little game and imagine the worst possible reason someone might do this.

You sound like every full blown conspiracy theorist to be honest.

Occam’s razor.

Dude, I’m a father of two who has done nothing but work and pay taxes for 20 years in a row.

Seriously, go jam yourself with a steel pole. You don’t know me and I’m expressing my opinion on a football board. Eat a bag of shit. I think Watson is getting ****ed by rich white dudes. Couldn’t give a flying **** what you think of it.

So do massage therapists or masseuses have any kind of professional group that meets in person or online or something?

It seems somewhat unlikely that a guy could offend as many as alleged and nobody in that community ever says anything to warn the community to avoid that customer.

How so? I am not ruling out that there's plenty of merit to the accusations. But I don't think anyone can look at Easterbys past and his relationship with McNair, then look at McNair relationship with buzbee and the timing of alm this and not think something is really strange. I personally think it could go either way but they'll need a much bigger smoking gun.

Honestly the way I see it is Watson thought he had a prostitution like arrangement. A lot of it maybe because it was a wink wink thing. A few that were legitimately upset. And some who are exploiting the situation. It is a complicated gray area and one professional sports doesn't want to touch with a ten foot pole.

People are into some weird shit dude.

Could well be that the typical jersey bunnies don’t do it for him anymore. He’s probably been the man since early high school. Maybe he’s more interested in something....uhhh....different.

You could be right. Not ruling it out.

Seems weird, but I suppose there are just weird bastards out there.

Yeah, not sure I would go that far. But you'd also ask why they'd bother with strippers or prostitutes.

Ditto. Just doesn’t make sense. 100 chicks on any given night would hand him anything.

You’re coming from a normal person’s perspective though. Normal guys who weren’t star athletes at a major Division 1 program and star athletes at the pro level would love to have the opportunities he has.

He’s just had so much of that through his teens and early twenties that he’s probably just bored.

As a ChiefsPlanet poster, I’m sure you can relate to having women throw themselves at you constantly.

LMAO

Yeah I get it. Watson just doesn’t strike me as the type. I guess though.

I still just can’t see it.

This isn't going to end well for him.

Bottom line.

Obviously the reputation is ruined. I don't know that it's kobe bad. I don't think it's tiger bad. But there's room for this to get way worse.

Nothing makes those random women any more trustworthy than these masseuses. This could actually be his attempt to mitigate risk of random women chasing him for money or extortion or wherever. He might have figured this was a more intimate, less risky way of getting with women, but maybe wrongly assumed they all read the tea leaves correctly.

Sounds like a serial rapist/molester--If the allegations are true.

His career is over. He never wanted to play for the Texans again, be careful what you wish for.

Ummmm if this stuff is true, then it dwarfs anything that Kobe or Tiger ever did.

Sounds right to me.

These Patriot Way douchebags are the ****ing worst.

Apparently one of Belichick's horcruxes still survives in Houston.

I wouldn’t even wish that on the Donkos....ummm yeah I would!

ROFL

It’s beyond overwhelming at this point. Watson’s reputation is eviscerated. Closest comp I can think of would be Michael Vick.

Soooo tell him to stop. Did she do that? If so, and he kept trying to go for it by all means throw the book at him.

When it was one girl I would give it a decent chance that Houston wanted to 1. Change the news cycle on how shitty they are and Watson would get out. And 2. Cool trade talks so they can keep him. They’ve been insistent from the beginning that he’s not getting traded. One could argue there is a Big Rape case here. Endure some bad PR he wins and everybody forgets about it.

But now that it’s 20, I find it unlikely Houston has anything to do with it.

How many of the twenty heard about the "make serious cash" ad on facebook? No experience needed. Must be willing to state that you shit yourself.

It seems a ton of people on here love the dude for some reason and just cant handle the fact that he is probably a spoiled ass bitch that can't take no for an answer.

A 25 year old, top 5 QB's career is most likely over, and by all accounts is a complete creep. This is completely surreal. Nothing remotely like this has ever happened. Crazy.

Yeah, I'm gonna need to see that thing called evi-daunce. Women are well aware of the double-standard and take advantage of it on a regular basis.

I thought they traded Hopkins because he and BOB didn’t get along plus they didn’t want to resign him?

Also, don’t you think a LOT of NFL players have baby mamas?

That doesn’t make any sense.

Innocent until proven guilty.

I will say that with the release of the text messages, this doesn’t seem as baseless as it originally did.

I don’t really care about the quantity of allegations. The legitimacy is what really matters.

It was a BOB/Easterby tag team. BOB made the comments about hating Hopkins bringing baby mamas around. Albert breer said Easterby traded hopkins because of practice habits and most Houston reporters believe the salary cap stuff is BS. It fits the narrative that this was another culture move by Easterby. We've been through this right 53 bullshit before. SI reported Easterby pushed the trade and given the comp, they were desperate to get rid of him.

This looks like a guy who thought he was getting an arrangement looking for a happy ending. And some women are alleging that was not part of the arrangement. Unless you want to scrutinize every athlete gray area when it comes to massages or what's actually allowed at a strip club.

It sounds like Watson recommended these masseuses to other players and vice versa. I wonder how many accusers gave similar arrangements to other athletes before or after.

We can debate it till the cows come home.

He crossed the line.


I don't give a shit how well he can play a game.

I don't think at this point thats even debatable.

If the worst of it is true, Watson would save his career by doing therapy and marrying a nice girl that has her shit together and has brothers or cousins that would not mind kicking his ass if he messed up.

Seems like he never had any school or police investigations into any incidents, a civil class action suit against a wealthy celebrity for wanting handjobs is whack.

I'd like to know why these things are only being taken to civil court and not criminal court..you'd think if you're gonna say dude raped you, you'd do more than want coin.

That part still seems fishy to me.

No criminal charges...? Pay dem hoes and let's move on

Easterby is a douche. It wouldn't surprise me if he's behind all of this. It is basically impossible to sue the media and get anything out of it, and even less so the toy department (sports media).

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/12/10/ex...le-daily-cover

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/01/16/te...y-kept-his-job

Doesn't seem like this is a McNair thing. It's an Easterby thing.

Oh shit LMAO

Our beloved Patrick is at home prolly doing an A+ job with dad stuff for a point of reference in all of this.

In these situations I would trust the wheel of payout over the wheel of justice.

So, it was BOB who hated the baby mamas?

Yep, this kind of stuff makes me appreciate PMII even more

Civil cases, the burden of proof is much less of just that a burden. You don't have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt in civil Court. Just that it was likely.

Rape cases are extremely hard to win in criminal court because a lot of times there is a lot of circumstancial evidence, basically he said she said.

That being said women who wait months after and go civil with it instead of attempting a criminal case and then proceeding with a civil after look bad. It looks like a money grab and with high profile rich athlete's it a lot of times is.

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Waiting might look fishy, but I get why. I could absolutely see why she might be intimidated. Fan bases can be crazy with this type of stuff.

Also, it’s not like she waited decades to pursue action. This is really fairly recent.

Believe all women.

Just wait.

This is going to open the flood gates to other players on other teams getting called out.

Buckle in.

I want my ****ing happy ending!!

A little sucky ducky