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siberian khatru 02-19-2021 10:00 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Red Sox Outfielder Johnny Damon Arrested In Florida On Charges Of DUI, Resisting Officer Without Violence <a href="https://t.co/PPHoIleXdY">https://t.co/PPHoIleXdY</a> <a href="https://t.co/4z4uJe4NDJ">pic.twitter.com/4z4uJe4NDJ</a></p>&mdash; WBZ Boston Sports (@wbzsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/wbzsports/status/1362782853206077447?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RockChalk 02-19-2021 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 15557122)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Former Red Sox Outfielder Johnny Damon Arrested In Florida On Charges Of DUI, Resisting Officer Without Violence <a href="https://t.co/PPHoIleXdY">https://t.co/PPHoIleXdY</a> <a href="https://t.co/4z4uJe4NDJ">pic.twitter.com/4z4uJe4NDJ</a></p>&mdash; WBZ Boston Sports (@wbzsports) <a href="https://twitter.com/wbzsports/status/1362782853206077447?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Having met him on a few occasions, JD will be the 70 year old guy who still believes he's 30 and acts that way. He's had a really hard time not being "the guy" anymore.

ChiefsCountry 02-19-2021 10:25 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Bonilla&#39;s contract continues to amaze �� <a href="https://t.co/8t5UmOWxAt">pic.twitter.com/8t5UmOWxAt</a></p>&mdash; Sporting News (@sportingnews) <a href="https://twitter.com/sportingnews/status/1362391542586109954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

BigCatDaddy 02-19-2021 10:26 AM

The phrase "We're a bunch of idiots" seems fitting.

dlphg9 02-19-2021 12:13 PM

Is Wander Franco the most highly touted prospect of all time? Initially ranked 14th in 2018 and has been the number 1 prospect in baseball for 3 years in a row now.

I'm sure that not being able to see how well others advanced or if Franco declined is pretty big reason why he's number 1, has there ever been a prospect ranked number 1 for 3 years in a row?

Mecca 02-19-2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15557273)
Is Wander Franco the most highly touted prospect of all time? Initially ranked 14th in 2018 and has been the number 1 prospect in baseball for 3 years in a row now.

I'm sure that not being able to see how well others advanced or if Franco declined is pretty big reason why he's number 1, has there ever been a prospect ranked number 1 for 3 years in a row?

No because usually if you're #1 you come up quickly after that. Tampa is weird in how they handle players.

duncan_idaho 02-19-2021 12:50 PM

It’s also unusual for a player to ascend to #1 overall after a single year in pro ball.

gblowfish 02-19-2021 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15557156)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Bobby Bonilla&#39;s contract continues to amaze �� <a href="https://t.co/8t5UmOWxAt">pic.twitter.com/8t5UmOWxAt</a></p>&mdash; Sporting News (@sportingnews) <a href="https://twitter.com/sportingnews/status/1362391542586109954?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 18, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Bonilla's deal is really amazing. Kind of like winning the lotto.

dallaschiefsfan 02-19-2021 03:34 PM

DM places premium value on inventory - especially with pitchers. With that said, what are the most interesting roster construction issues/decisions for the Royals in ST based on who has options and who does not? (w/ the customary assumption that some of these things will just work themselves due to ST injuries and other unforeseen factors).

Wilson8 02-19-2021 05:16 PM

Shamelessly stolen from a Royals related web site.

Starting pitchers (5) - Kris Bubic, Danny Duffy, Brad Keller Mike Minor, and Brady Singer
Trying to get there - Jackson Kowar, Asa Lacy, Daniel Lynch, and Ervin Santana

Relievers (8) - Scott Barlow, Jesse Hahn, Greg Holland, Jakob Junis, Josh Staumont, and Kyle Zimmer

Trying to make it - Scott Blewett, Ronald Bolaños, Wade Davis, Carlos Hernández, Richard Lovelady, Jake Newberry, Carlos Sanabria, Eric Skoglund, Gabe Speier, Daniel Tillo, Angel Zerpa, and Tyler Zuber

Prison Bitch 02-19-2021 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15557273)
Is Wander Franco the most highly touted prospect of all time? Initially ranked 14th in 2018 and has been the number 1 prospect in baseball for 3 years in a row now.

He’s the highest in the 12 years of FG I think. He looks exactly like Jose Ramirez to me in his clips. I’d guess he will come close to that when he establishes himself. He never swings and misses (4% swinging strike rare or something insane)

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I'm sure that not being able to see how well others advanced or if Franco declined is pretty big reason why he's number 1, has there ever been a prospect ranked number 1 for 3 years in a row?
Not uncommon. I think Byron Buxton was 1 or 2 a few years straight. Mauer was Twins 1 prospect for like 4 years straight as ye worked his way thru their system. Mike Montgomery was in our top 3 for about 4 years, etc

ROYC75 02-19-2021 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by RockChalk (Post 15557142)
Having met him on a few occasions, JD will be the 70 year old guy who still believes he's 30 and acts that way. He's had a really hard time not being "the guy" anymore.

If you have a deep love for the game, it's rather easy to feel that way!

The body just doesn't perform what the brain wants it to when the desire is so strong.

dallaschiefsfan 02-20-2021 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 15557776)
Shamelessly stolen from a Royals related web site.

Starting pitchers (5) - Kris Bubic, Danny Duffy, Brad Keller Mike Minor, and Brady Singer
Trying to get there - Jackson Kowar, Asa Lacy, Daniel Lynch, and Ervin Santana

Relievers (8) - Scott Barlow, Jesse Hahn, Greg Holland, Jakob Junis, Josh Staumont, and Kyle Zimmer

Trying to make it - Scott Blewett, Ronald Bolaños, Wade Davis, Carlos Hernández, Richard Lovelady, Jake Newberry, Carlos Sanabria, Eric Skoglund, Gabe Speier, Daniel Tillo, Angel Zerpa, and Tyler Zuber

Unless he's just terrible, I expect Davis to make it. I also expect them to give Santana every opportunity to be a 6th starter, unless Lynch is just lights out in ST. The staff breakdown seems to be leaning towards 6 starters and 7 relievers once they get past the customary early-season day offs. It appears the Omaha shuttle has quite a few options for keeping the pen fresh this year. Zuber, Newberry, Lovelady and Tillo can be shuttled back and forth.

Junis and Barlow have 2 options. That makes them vulnerable to start at Omaha if they have a bad ST.

KChiefs1 02-20-2021 06:02 PM

Way too early mock on the 2021 MLB draft.

https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-mock-dr...picks-for-2021

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1. Pirates: Kumar Rocker, RHP, Vanderbilt
Rocker would join David Price (2007) and Dansby Swanson (2015) to give Vanderbilt three No. 1 overall picks, second in Draft history behind only Arizona State's four. His fastball and slider can be wipeout pitches, though he still can polish his changeup, command and delivery.

2. Rangers: Jordan Lawlar, SS, Jesuit Prep (Dallas)
The Rangers have taken reliable college bats with their last two first-rounders, but a five-tool shortstop in their own backyard will be hard to ignore. While his tools aren't quite as loud as those of fellow Dallas-area native Bobby Witt Jr., who went No. 2 overall two years ago, Lawlar is a more advanced hitter at the same stage.

3. Tigers: Adrian del Castillo, C, Miami
Del Castillo offers the best combination of power and patience in the 2021 Draft class, with more extra-base hits (39) and walks (43) than strikeouts (32) in 77 games during his first two seasons at Miami. He'll be an impact bat even if he can't stay behind the plate, which is a question.

4. Red Sox: Jud Fabian, OF, Florida
Fabian might be the most polarizing prospect among the eight players who seem to have separated themselves from the rest of the Draft class at this point. He could have the most usable power in the Draft and may stay in center field, but he also has hit just .250 with a 22-percent strikeout rate in two seasons at Florida.

5. Orioles: Jaden Hill, RHP, Louisiana State
Hill pitched just 21 2/3 innings in his first two years at Louisiana State because of a strained elbow in 2019 and the shortened season last spring. Yet he's similar to Rocker with less slider but more changeup, nearly as much physicality and better athleticism.

6. Diamondbacks: Matt McLain, SS, UCLA
The D-backs took McLain 26th overall three years ago and could finally get their man by taking him in the first round for a second time. He's a smaller middle infielder with the best bat-to-ball skills in his Draft, just like Nick Madrigal was when he went No. 4 overall in 2018, and McLain has more sneaky power along with a legitimate chance to stick at shortstop.

7. Royals: Jack Leiter, RHP, Vanderbilt
There's no shortage of scouts who prefer Leiter to his Vanderbilt teammate because they think he has a deeper repertoire, better delivery and more feel for pitching than Rocker. Draft-eligible as a second-year collegian because he'll turn 21 in April, he's small for a starter at 6 feet and 195 pounds, but could climb higher than this if he improves his control after walking eight in 15 2/3 innings last spring.


8. Rockies: Marcelo Mayer, SS, Eastlake HS (Chula Vista, Calif.)
The best pure hitter in the prep class, Mayer has drawn some Corey Seager comparisons as a bigger shortstop with power projection and the tools to stay at the position. He won't match Adrián González (No. 1 overall in 2000) as the highest pick in Eastlake history, but could catch Lawlar to be the first high schooler taken in July.

9. Angels: Alex Binelas, 3B, Louisville
Another fine Wisconsin-bred hitting prospect in the tradition of Jarred Kelenic, Gavin Lux and Daulton Varsho, Binelas has more power than any of them and rivals del Castillo as having the most lefty pop in the 2021 college crop. He may wind up on an outfield corner but fits the offensive profile there if he has to move.

10. Mets: Ty Madden, RHP, Texas
A top-three-rounds talent on a loaded Cypress Ranch HS (Cypress, Texas) club in 2018, Madden has continually gotten stronger and better at Texas. He's now dealing with a mid-90s fastball, a plus mid-80s slider and a solid low-80s changeup, not to mention a quality delivery and control.

Jim Callis is a reporter for MLB.com. Follow @jimcallisMLB on Twitter. Listen to him on the weekly MLB Pipeline Podcast.

Coach 02-20-2021 08:44 PM

I wonder if Leiter is related to Al Leiter?

KChiefs1 02-20-2021 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 15558889)
I wonder if Leiter is related to Al Leiter?


He is his son.

KChiefs1 02-20-2021 09:20 PM

***Official 2021 Royals Season Repository Thread***
 
Jack Leiter isn’t quite as imposing as Kumar Rocker, but at 6-1, 205lbs he brings his own impressive athletic pedigree (he’s the son of MLB star Al Leiter) and daunting pitching skills into the season. Leiter has a very capable fastball that touches the mid-90s. He also has a wicked curveball, an effective slider, and a good changeup that he’s rarely needed.

In just 4 appearances in college baseball, Leiter has been nearly unhittable. He was 2-0 with a 1.72 ERA and 22 strikeouts in 15 2/3 innings before the 2020 season was interrupted. Outside of his lack of collegiate experience, everything about Leiter is impressive. Jim Callis named Athletics and Reds ace Sonny Gray — a former Vandy standout — as a fair comparison to Leiter.

Is it possible that Rocker and Leiter could go No. 1 and No. 2 overall in the 2021 MLB Draft?

“Yeah, they could,” said Callis, a noted draft expert after spending two decades at Baseball America. “I mean, it’s possible.”

Callis admitted that there are some questions based on the lack of exposure for all draft-eligible players after the abbreviated 2020 season. Still, he concurred that there’s reason to think Rocker and Leiter — a draft-eligible sophomore — could be a 1-2 draft duo.

“I think there are some people who would argue they’re the top two prospects in the draft,” Callis said. “I think Kumar is the most famous player in the draft, and he’d probably be the consensus No. 1 guy right now. … You can find a lot of scouts who scout Vanderbilt and they’ll tell you they think Leiter might be better than Rocker.”

This has Leiter as the #1 prospect.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...eiter-at-no-1/

Coach 02-21-2021 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15558890)
He is his son.

I wondered if that was the case or a relative. I remember Al pitching for the Marlins and the Mets back then.

Jeez, I'm getting old.

KChiefs1 02-21-2021 05:53 PM

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...ox-underwhelm/

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Not sure I totally understand what the Royals are doing this winter, but they're doing something! The rebuilding Royals went out and made some moves. They made a trade for outfielder Andrew Benintendi, signed left-handed starter Mike Minor to a two-year deal, brought back DH Jorge Soler, signed first baseman Carlos Santana to a two-year, $17 million deal, kept now-third baseman Hunter Dozier and brought back reliever Greg Holland. Oh, and they signed 38-year-old right-hander Ervin Santana to a minor-league deal. It's unlikely that they'll be enough to get them out of a fourth-place finish in their division, but props for at least trying to make your team better.

GRADE: C

KChiefs1 02-21-2021 05:55 PM

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/m...oster-invitee/

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SS Bobby Witt Jr. My heart wanted to go with Wade Davis, who is on a minor-league contract and looking to revive his career outside Coors Field, but I just can't do it. Not when a prospect as good as Witt is sitting right there. Witt, the No. 2 pick in the 2019 draft, is a tools freak who grades out as above-average across the board. He projects to hit for average and power, steal bases, and save runs in the field. Witt is a potential franchise cornerstone, someone whose game could look a lot like Trevor Story's at his peak. Top pitching prospects Jackson Kowar, Asa Lacy, and Daniel Lynch will all be in camp this year as well, giving Kansas City one of the most exciting groups of NRIs in the game.

siberian khatru 02-21-2021 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 15559608)


Fourth? I think we’ve got a great shot at third, and an outside chance at second.

siberian khatru 02-22-2021 10:44 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Just what a Kennedy needs to do, head out to Dallas</p>&mdash; Razzball (@Razzball) <a href="https://twitter.com/Razzball/status/1363891633419247622?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 22, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

AJKCFAN 02-22-2021 10:46 AM

Rotoworld reports:

BRAD BRACH
RP, KANSAS CITY ROYALS

Royals signed RHP Brad Brach to a minor league contract with an invitation to spring training.
Brach quickly found a new home after being cut loose by the Mets last week. The veteran reliever struggled last year with a 5.84 ERA and 1.78 WHIP over 12 1/3 innings, but he has a strong track record and makes for useful depth in camp.

Pitt Gorilla 02-22-2021 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by AJKCFAN (Post 15560128)
Rotoworld reports:

BRAD BRACH
RP, KANSAS CITY ROYALS

Royals signed RHP Brad Brach to a minor league contract with an invitation to spring training.
Brach quickly found a new home after being cut loose by the Mets last week. The veteran reliever struggled last year with a 5.84 ERA and 1.78 WHIP over 12 1/3 innings, but he has a strong track record and makes for useful depth in camp.

Pretty sure I've used that exact name for Brett Veach at some point.

Bowser 02-22-2021 12:48 PM

HEAD OUT TO DALLAS


too soon?

BWillie 02-22-2021 01:14 PM

Question about FSKC....I have YouTubeTV. Will I be able to watch Royals games? What will I need to do to watch Ryan and Rex and the Royals?

louie aguiar 02-22-2021 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15560345)
Question about FSKC....I have YouTubeTV. Will I be able to watch Royals games? What will I need to do to watch Ryan and Rex and the Royals?

As of right now, no, Youtube TV will not have the Royals games. AT&T Choice package I believe does have Fox sports KC in the local area.

BWillie 02-22-2021 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15560361)
As of right now, no, Youtube TV will not have the Royals games. AT&T Choice package I believe does have Fox sports KC in the local area.

Is there any standalone streaming deal I can buy directly from the Royals? I'm not getting rid of YouTube TV.

louie aguiar 02-22-2021 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15560371)
Is there any standalone streaming deal I can buy directly from the Royals? I'm not getting rid of YouTube TV.

Not that I'm aware of, I think you can only do that (MLB extra innings) if you live outside the local tv territory

BWillie 02-22-2021 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by louie aguiar (Post 15560384)
Not that I'm aware of, I think you can only do that (MLB extra innings) if you live outside the local tv territory

Maybe there is a way I can spoof my location. I live in KC area.

Valiant 02-22-2021 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15560406)
Maybe there is a way I can spoof my location. I live in KC area.

Find a vpn you like.

duncan_idaho 02-22-2021 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 15560547)
Find a vpn you like.

I'm planning to try Nord VPN when the season starts. They have a free trial. If I can get that working on a computer I'll be golden.

Can then stream to the TV through my Rokus.

sedated 02-22-2021 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15560371)
Is there any standalone streaming deal I can buy directly from the Royals? I'm not getting rid of YouTube TV.

This FSKC deal is so stupid and frustrating. There's no way to buy the local games outside of cable/streaming, and then they get in disputes with every cable/streaming provider over price and no one carries it.

NFL Sunday ticket is one thing, but at least that's gouging people outside the home market.

dlphg9 02-22-2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15560609)
I'm planning to try Nord VPN when the season starts. They have a free trial. If I can get that working on a computer I'll be golden.

Can then stream to the TV through my Rokus.

Try surfshark. It's like $60 bucks for a 2 year script and if you have a router, then it has step by step guides to put the vpn on there. They have like 60ish different us cities to choose from and then a bunch of different countries.

ChiefsCountry 02-22-2021 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 15560371)
Is there any standalone streaming deal I can buy directly from the Royals? I'm not getting rid of YouTube TV.

Find someone you know with Directv or cable and you can use that to watch through Fox Sports Go.

Prison Bitch 02-22-2021 06:13 PM

Top OPS+ thru age 21, 250+ PA:


Trout
Ted Williams
Poo-holes
Foxx
Hornsby
6. TATIS JR
Ty Cobb

duncan_idaho 02-22-2021 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15560702)
Top OPS+ thru age 21, 250+ PA:


Trout
Ted Williams
Poo-holes
Foxx
Hornsby
6. TATIS JR
Ty Cobb


He’s nuts.

Prison Bitch 02-22-2021 08:15 PM

Juan Soto is 8th. Ahead of Mantle, Frank Robinson, Griffey Jr etc


The NL has the exciting players now. In the last two years they took the 2, 3, 4 best player (Betts Lindor Machado). And already had Tatis and Soto. Betts/Machado are long term deals.....we will see where Lindor ends up in 2022

Sassy Squatch 02-23-2021 07:42 PM

Surprised there isn't a discussion about Kevin Mathers blatantly admitting to manipulating service time.

Prison Bitch 02-24-2021 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15561974)
Surprised there isn't a discussion about Kevin Mathers blatantly admitting to manipulating service time.


What’s the issue? Teams can do whatever they want.

If Kelenic is mad about this he can take it up with his own union who signed off on the labor agreement.

Sassy Squatch 02-24-2021 08:37 PM

I'm sure they will this next round of CBA negotiations.

tk13 02-24-2021 10:17 PM

Listen to that sound.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s Bobby Witt Jr., hitting one to California: <a href="https://t.co/xrzH19q9pp">pic.twitter.com/xrzH19q9pp</a></p>&mdash; Alec Lewis (@alec_lewis) <a href="https://twitter.com/alec_lewis/status/1364708807281025029?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 24, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KChiefs1 02-25-2021 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 15557776)
Shamelessly stolen from a Royals related web site.

Starting pitchers (5) - Kris Bubic, Danny Duffy, Brad Keller Mike Minor, and Brady Singer
Trying to get there - Jackson Kowar, Asa Lacy, Daniel Lynch, and Ervin Santana

Relievers (8) - Scott Barlow, Jesse Hahn, Greg Holland, Jakob Junis, Josh Staumont, and Kyle Zimmer

Trying to make it - Scott Blewett, Ronald Bolaños, Wade Davis, Carlos Hernández, Richard Lovelady, Jake Newberry, Carlos Sanabria, Eric Skoglund, Gabe Speier, Daniel Tillo, Angel Zerpa, and Tyler Zuber

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">NEW — Jakob Junis showed up to Royals spring training with a totally new arsenal. <br><br>His 23-year-old brother, Noah, is to thank.<br><br>A story about baseball&#39;s fragility, pitching development and two brothers who love what they do:<a href="https://t.co/5Jtxv2ehye">https://t.co/5Jtxv2ehye</a> <a href="https://t.co/YYbcV1w0uU">pic.twitter.com/YYbcV1w0uU</a></p>&mdash; Alec Lewis (@alec_lewis) <a href="https://twitter.com/alec_lewis/status/1364956058968596484?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

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Jakob, 28, has long been a mostly one-trick pony, dominating hitters at times with his slider. He threw it 46.2 percent of the time last season, according to Brooks Baseball, making it by far his most-used pitch. He knew he’d need something more in his arsenal to progress, to remain in the big leagues, to help the Royals win games. So he set out to develop a new pitch. It turns out, he developed two: In pursuit of that cutter, they stumbled across a promising change-up as well.

His 23-year-old brother’s ingenuity made this possible. Because while Jakob was trying to make his way as a pitcher, his little brother was quietly shooting up the ranks as a pitching coach.

“How much he’s helped me,” Jakob said of Noah, “is truly a blessing.”

Noah stayed at Jakob’s house for the first month, and Jakob entrusted him with his pitching development in full. The younger brother wrote out the older’s baseball-specific workouts. As Jakob started to ramp up his throwing, Noah and Jakob together refined Jakob’s mechanics. Jakob shortened his arm action, becoming more efficient. They also streamlined Jakob’s lower-body movement. Then they started talking about specific pitches.

First, Jakob had to find his slider, which, well, wasn’t too difficult after all. In 2018, Jakob’s slider averaged 82.2 mph. In 2019, it averaged 82.4. In 2020, it averaged 80.1. Quite simply: Jakob just needed to throw the pitch harder. That, combined with Jakob’s move toward the middle of the rubber, opened the pitch back up for business.

Then came the cutter. Royals pitching coach Cal Eldred had long thought Jakob to be a candidate to throw the pitch. Jakob had tried it in the past, messing with grips, but rather than spinning toward his glove side, the pitch would run away similar to a two-seamer.

Dude, this is ridiculous, Jakob would say. I can’t throw this.

Jakob told Noah the backstory, and Noah agreed with Eldred: Jakob being able to throw a cutter made sense. Why? Jakob’s slider has been his bread and butter, and the cutter is thrown from a similar wrist position. So Jakob tried to throw the pitch, trying out different grips. One day, he threw a couple of good ones — but at 83 mph. He knew it needed to be faster. But behind him, observing information from the Rapsodo pitch-tracking technology, Noah was excited.

“The shape was there,” Noah said. “He was getting a feel for it, and the spin efficiency and horizontal release angle led me to believe there was more in there.”

Noah was right. Weeks later, as Jakob started to ramp up, the cutter velocity jumped to 88 mph and 89 mph. It was a success, but not the only one. Jakob and Noah had also talked about a change-up grip he had once used in a game against the New York Yankees. Jakob threw an off-speed pitch that moved so much it ran into the handle of Giancarlo Stanton’s bat, resulting in a popup toward second base. Problem was, the next time Jakob tried throwing the pitch, it moved the wrong way. So he threw the grip away.

Developing a change-up had always been difficult because Jakob supinates his wrist (turns it to where his thumb ends upward) as opposed to pronates (thumb ends downward). Noah knew that for the pitch to work, the seams on the baseball had to be oriented just right. He suggested Jakob try the grip again. He did. The pitch worked. They would troubleshoot it consistently, and Jakob started to get a feel.

“It’s just purely a grip thing,” Noah said. “He had to get a little more behind it to get those seams in the right spots to where it takes off and catches that laminar flow.”

Chiefspants 02-25-2021 10:03 AM

I'm confused. Nowhere does it say that Noah is a professional firefighter. Not sure how he's going to help?

duncan_idaho 02-25-2021 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15563665)
I'm confused. Nowhere does it say that Noah is a professional firefighter. Not sure how he's going to help?

I laughed. Out loud.

KChiefs1 02-25-2021 10:17 AM

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Prison Bitch 02-25-2021 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15563362)
I'm sure they will this next round of CBA negotiations.

I think you’re right. The union wants to cut a year off the FA mark (6 years) from a system that’s 40+ years old

Baseball's three-tiered economic structure has been in place since 1976: players make at or close to the minimum salary for their first few seasons; they become eligible for salary arbitration at some point from two to three years of major league service; and they can become free agents when they have six years of service.



With younger players getting to the bigs earlier and performing better (the production aging curve has shifted younger by about 2 years over the past 20 seasons), it makes sense

Sassy Squatch 02-25-2021 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15563728)
I think you’re right. The union wants to cut a year off the FA mark (6 years) from a system that’s 40+ years old

Baseball's three-tiered economic structure has been in place since 1976: players make at or close to the minimum salary for their first few seasons; they become eligible for salary arbitration at some point from two to three years of major league service; and they can become free agents when they have six years of service.



With younger players getting to the bigs earlier and performing better (the production aging curve has shifted younger by about 2 years over the past 20 seasons), it makes sense

Just kind of sucks it's going to be as hostile as it is. I could easily see a season or even two being lost to it.

Prison Bitch 02-25-2021 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15563739)
Just kind of sucks it's going to be as hostile as it is. I could easily see a season or even two being lost to it.

The current deal is up in December. Both sides claim they’re already working on a new deal. But again: it’s all moot w/o knowing the resolution to COVID.


MLB said 2019 revenue was 39% local gate and other in-park sources, followed by 25% central revenue, 22% local media, 11% sponsorship and 4% other.



No fans = 39% of lost revenue for the industry. There’s just no way to get a LT deal with this overhang. Last year with no fans the players took something like 85% of all revenue even with prorated salaries by one estimate.

Sassy Squatch 02-25-2021 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15563918)
The current deal is up in December. Both sides claim they’re already working on a new deal. But again: it’s all moot w/o knowing the resolution to COVID.


MLB said 2019 revenue was 39% local gate and other in-park sources, followed by 25% central revenue, 22% local media, 11% sponsorship and 4% other.



No fans = 39% of lost revenue for the industry. There’s just no way to get a LT deal with this overhang. Last year with no fans the players took something like 85% of all revenue even with prorated salaries by one estimate.

Jesus ****ing Christ that's absurd.

duncan_idaho 02-25-2021 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15563918)
The current deal is up in December. Both sides claim they’re already working on a new deal. But again: it’s all moot w/o knowing the resolution to COVID.


MLB said 2019 revenue was 39% local gate and other in-park sources, followed by 25% central revenue, 22% local media, 11% sponsorship and 4% other.



No fans = 39% of lost revenue for the industry. There’s just no way to get a LT deal with this overhang. Last year with no fans the players took something like 85% of all revenue even with prorated salaries by one estimate.


That math doesn’t add up to me.

The players took prorated salaries. In a normal year their take of revenue is estimated to be at around 45-50 percent.

I don’t believe anything MLB owners say about their books.

Here’s a good Fangraphs article that breaks it down:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/what-the...osses-in-2020/

ChiefsCountry 02-25-2021 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15563918)
The current deal is up in December. Both sides claim they’re already working on a new deal. But again: it’s all moot w/o knowing the resolution to COVID.


MLB said 2019 revenue was 39% local gate and other in-park sources, followed by 25% central revenue, 22% local media, 11% sponsorship and 4% other.



No fans = 39% of lost revenue for the industry. There’s just no way to get a LT deal with this overhang. Last year with no fans the players took something like 85% of all revenue even with prorated salaries by one estimate.

You know ticket sales are the majority of the revenue when a franchise like the Cardinals can be in the top 10.

Prison Bitch 02-25-2021 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15564611)
That math doesn’t add up to me.

The players took prorated salaries. In a normal year their take of revenue is estimated to be at around 45-50 percent.

I don’t believe anything MLB owners say about their books.

Here’s a good Fangraphs article that breaks it down:

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/what-the...osses-in-2020/


I think you’re right. The thread I saw had comments and the only source for the claim was....Rob Manifred. So, yeah.

duncan_idaho 02-25-2021 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15564626)
I think you’re right. The thread I saw had comments and the only source for the claim was....Rob Manifred. So, yeah.


Right. But many baseball fans will take it as gospel and believe that the owners just don’t make very much money.

KChiefs1 02-26-2021 09:24 AM

https://theathletic.com/2412495/2021...oster-mailbag/

Royals lineup construction, Daniel Lynch and more: Spring training mailbag
by
Alec Lewis


SURPRISE, Ariz. — The first week of full spring training workouts is coming to a close, so we thought it’d be valuable to solve some Royals mysteries.

There are questions about how the lineup will be constructed. Questions about the plan for Daniel Lynch. Questions about prospects who may surprise throughout this 2021 season.

There are answers, too, so let’s not waste any time. Thanks to all of you who sent in questions. We’ll do this again soon.

Note: Submitted questions have been edited for clarity and length.

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How does the feeling around this spring training differ from years past? Do you feel the positive momentum will carry into April and beyond? — Evan C.

The best way to describe what I’ve seen is a focus. There’s no music blaring as the players work out. There’s little chatter between reps in the infield or at the plate. The other day, first-base coach Rusty Kuntz was directing a group of Royals on one backfield. The drill required running around the bases. It’d be easy for established players like Salvador Perez or Whit Merrifield to lollygag a drill like this. But they didn’t jog or goof off. They ran around the bases intently, no matter that this was on a backfield in February.

That, to me, explains the feeling. And I do think it’s a byproduct of momentum after the way the Royals finished the season and the moves the front office made early in the offseason — and from the Andrew Benintendi trade that capped things off. The Royals might not have scripted it this way, but it seems as if they’re benefitting from it, and it’s hard to think that won’t help in the season’s early stages.

Is there really a chance left-handed pitching prospect Daniel Lynch comes out of spring training in our starting rotation? What would it take? Or is the plan written in stone for Lynch to start the year in the minors? — Ken Z.


I’m writing this about an hour after I watched Lynch throw a live bullpen session. Here’s how those sessions work for folks who don’t know: A pitcher steps on the mound and throws 20-25 pitches toward a catcher. Hitters stand in the box and attempt to do their thing. Lynch, whom The Athletic’s Keith Law ranked the No. 17 prospect in MLB, made that difficult.

His fastball was humming in front of Royals chairman and CEO John Sherman, front-office members and manager Mike Matheny. I didn’t get a velocity reading, but those fastballs looked to have some movement, and hitters were struggling with it.

As far as the rotation goes, the thing to think about here is innings. Lynch only threw 96 1/3 innings in 2019. It was tough to gauge workload last season without minor-league baseball, but it’s hard to imagine he upped his previous total with, say, the equivalent of 120 innings in 2020. Without that progression, there’s no way he could be called upon for a full-season starting load of about 140 innings in 2021. Putting him in the rotation out of the gate would mean he’d be unavailable late in the year; Keller pitched 165 1/3 innings in 2019 and was still shut down. So for the Royals to have Lynch at the most important part of the season, it just may not make sense to start him right away.

What’s your best guess as to where the newcomers hit in the lineup? — Ryan K.

We received tons of questions about the lineup and understandably so. This will become a full story, so I’ll save some for that.

In the meantime, I think it’d make sense to see Benintendi in the No. 2 hole behind Merrifield, which would mean a right-left start. Then you could have Carlos Santana in the No. 3 hole. Imagine how treacherous a first inning that’d be for opposing pitchers: You face Merrifield, who is going to grind through an at-bat, then you face Benintendi and Santana, who will, too.

That type of OBP could pave the way for hitters such as Jorge Soler, Perez, Hunter Dozier and Adalberto Mondesi to do serious damage.

What is something from this season that is going to be written in the Royals history books? — Zach H.

I’m tempted to say Carlos Santana’s walks, but he’d have to get 123 to surpass John Mayberry’s single-season team record set in 1973. Another option would be to say Merrifield will have his career-best batting average, meaning he’d have to top .304. But my answer here is going to be about Mondesi: He will do something statistically positive this season that will be remembered forever.

Is anyone talking about new approaches to their game, similar to the year Alcides Escobar conveyed he wanted to hit home runs? — Ryan B.

No, but I have something for you within this context. At the end of 2019, Nicky Lopez talked about wanting to bulk up and add power to his game, similar to the way Merrifield had. It made sense within the trends of the game. Power rewards hitters. The problem is that it’s a drastic shift, and the focus on the longball can affect other parts of a hitter’s game.

And for Lopez it did. He whiffed 21.1 percent of the time in 2020 — up from 15.2 percent in 2019. He’s since readjusted to the hitter he had been; moving guys over, driving the ball to the gaps, making pitchers work. He’s shortened his swing, which the Royals believe will benefit both him and the club this season and beyond.

Getting more competitive at-bats along with his Gold Glove-caliber defense up the middle will assuredly benefit the Royals.

The Royals look pretty strong at the plate in terms of a top-nine, but the depth is pretty thin afterward. How strong is “pretty strong” and how thin is “pretty thin” in your eyes? — Daniel L.

This is a good take.

The Royals’ lineup is set; maybe not the order so much as the players who will be in it. The issues are going to come if injuries occur. If Santana has a nagging injury, a player such as Ryan O’Hearn could fill in. If it’s Lopez at second base, Hanser Alberto could fit the bill. If it’s in the outfield, though, the Royals will be going from reliability (Merrifield, Michael A. Taylor and Benintendi) to a lack thereof (Nick Heath, Kyle Isbel, etc.). That doesn’t mean the fill-ins aren’t capable; Isbel could certainly prove to be an everyday big-league starter.

It’s just that element that makes the depth “pretty thin.”

Do you have any understanding of whether general manager Dayton Moore is looking to extend Benintendi should he perform well? Or is this seen as a move to strengthen the team in only the short term? — Ian M.

There are a few answers Moore seemingly delivers as if by rote, and one is about extensions. I’m going to give it a go:

We’re going to do everything we can to keep our good young players here for as long as possible.

In Benintendi’s case, it’s first going to be about performance. Does he bounce back? Does he improve beyond what he’s been able to do in the big leagues? Then the dollar figures will come into play. How much will he want? (His agent, Casey Close, is one of the best in the game.) This was a move about the short term, but it could turn into the long term. It’s just way too early to tell.

Can you talk to me about Alec Zumwalt — what is he working on with the hitters? — Gavin A.

For those who do not know, Zumwalt is the Royals’ director of hitting performance. Truth be told, Gavin, we don’t see the in-the-cage work. But I can say he was throwing batting practice Wednesday when Seuly Matias hit a ball toward the light pole, as well as when Bobby Witt Jr., Kyle Isbel and Nick Pratto put dents in the pavement beyond the outfield wall.

How much leash does Greg Holland have and is Josh Staumont next? — Matt P.

Let’s use this question more to make a broader point: Thinking about the closer role is somewhat a thing of the past. For so many years managers used traditional closers and it made sense, right? Put your best arm at the end of the game to close it out. Here’s the issue with that: Sometimes you need your best arm in the highest-leverage point in the sixth inning. Or the seventh. Or the fourth. Games are so often lost in those moments.

With that aside, I don’t think there’s any leash on Holland as a pivotal piece in the bullpen. Simultaneously, I don’t think Staumont is next. He’s present. He’s a pivotal piece, too. If hitters struggle against a tight-moving slider, Holland might fit the bill in that situation. If a hitter can’t catch up to a 102 mph fastball, Staumont might slide into that role. It’s a chess match. It’s mix-and-match.

That’s the modern way of doing things.

Mr. L, How is Kyle Zimmer’s health? He closed ’20 on the injured list, I believe. — Terry P.

Answering this is a nod to Andy McCullough above all else. He’s the OG recipient of this question. It wouldn’t be right to answer it without a shoutout.

On a serious note: You’re right. Zimmer pitched an inning on Sept. 22 against the St. Louis Cardinals but had a “zinger,” essentially the feeling of an electric shock through the arm. He’d had one earlier in the season, so the Royals put him through tests after the game. The results revealed good news, but the Royals remained cautious; Zimmer didn’t pitch again in 2020.

He is healthy now, though. He threw a live Thursday on the backfields. His heater was hissing. The slider was working. He should be a reliable piece in the 2021 bullpen.

With three roster spots open on the 40-man roster as well as the fact they have three catchers without options available, do you foresee Dayton making another trade prior to the season or are they saving the open spots strictly for non-roster invitees? — Booten C.

It’s hard, in my line of work, to “foresee” a trade. I’d love to be able to but I don’t yet have those powers. On serious terms, no, I don’t think another trade is on the horizon before the season. Wade Davis, Ervin Santana, Brad Brach, Hanser Alberto, Bubba Starling and others are all non-roster invitees. It seems as if a few of them will finalize the 40-man roster. Meibrys Viloria, one of those three catchers who is out of options, is the type of guy who could sneak through waivers.

With the Benintendi and Taylor signings, what are the chances Starling makes the Opening Day roster? — Matt K.

This is a good question. The Royals are going to need outfield depth. Starling makes sense as an option and potential late-game defensive replacement, at minimum. He’d have to be added to the 40-man, which might affect the depth, but it wouldn’t be the most surprising thing. That said, current 40-man players such as Nick Heath or Edward Olivares might have better shots.

Who are some off-the-radar names that you could see moving quickly through the minors? — Jared S.

Erick Peña, a left-handed-hitting outfielder from the 2019 international signing class, is one. Angel Zerpa is another. Clay Dungan, a ninth-round pick from the 2019 MLB Draft, hasn’t played above short-season Idaho Falls. He could move. Nick Loftin, a first-round pick from the 2020 MLB Draft, is another.

Do you think Erick Peña will find his way on top-100 prospect lists by the end of this season? — Jared S.

I do. He’s bigger than he was last season, and in live batting practice against high-end arms, he’s held his own. Peña could be really special.

In your experience, what has been the toughest part about being a beat writer for a Major League Baseball team? — David S.

I’m not one to dwell on the tough parts of something — it can only make things tougher — but I think I’ll use this space to discuss the last year or so. The COVID-19 pandemic has distanced us, reporters and writers, from the people we cover. That, in turn, can tend to affect the types of stories that are told. Sometimes stories bubbled up through a meaningless conversation in the clubhouse. Other times, relationships would form, leading to more in-depth work. That has been the most difficult part for me, someone who wants to tell the stories of the humans these guys are, what they’ve had to go through to get to where they are as people.

But again, I’m not one to dwell on it.

Spring training has arrived. I’m in Surprise, Ariz., around the people we cover. It’s been a blast.

The hope is that that will come through in these stories for weeks to come.

Chiefspants 02-26-2021 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 15563675)
I laughed. Out loud.

That was a deep pull and I’m thrilled someone caught it.

Padres fans are convinced Hos turned a corner in the short season last year and has fully embraced analytics. We’ll see...

KChiefs1 02-26-2021 11:27 AM

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KChiefs1 02-26-2021 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15565037)
That was a deep pull and I’m thrilled someone caught it.

Padres fans are convinced Hos turned a corner in the short season last year and has fully embraced analytics. We’ll see...

No chance. He only listens to his brother.

KChiefs1 02-26-2021 12:28 PM

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siberian khatru 02-26-2021 12:37 PM

So much for reuniting HDH

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Thank you, Baseball ✍🏼 <a href="https://t.co/CS55vIQzST">pic.twitter.com/CS55vIQzST</a></p>&mdash; Kelvin Herrera (@KelvinHerrera40) <a href="https://twitter.com/KelvinHerrera40/status/1365363748584648708?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 26, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 02-26-2021 12:47 PM

Thank you for the memories KH!

DJJasonp 02-26-2021 12:53 PM

man, HDH was damn near unhittable. Just nasty, nasty stuff out of the pen.

Sure-Oz 02-28-2021 09:28 AM

@ByRobertMurray: Hunter Dozier and the Kansas City Royals are finalizing a four-year contract extension with a club option, according to sources familiar with the situation. The deal would buy out three years of arbitration and one year of free agency.

Why Not? 02-28-2021 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 15565288)
man, HDH was damn near unhittable. Just nasty, nasty stuff out of the pen.

If the Royals had the lead after 6, it was game, set, match. I’ve never had more fun following baseball and especially a bullpen as I did in 2014/2015

WhawhaWhat 02-28-2021 10:11 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">2B Whit Merrifield<br>LF Andrew Benintendi<br>1B Carlos Santana<br>C Salvador Perez<br>RF Jorge Soler<br>DH Ryan O&#39;Hearn<br>3B Hanser Alberto<br>SS Nicky Lopez<br>CF Edward Olivares<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Royals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Royals</a> at 2:05 CT<a href="https://twitter.com/610SportsKC?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@610SportsKC</a></p>&mdash; Josh Vernier (@JoshVernier610) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoshVernier610/status/1366051421188100098?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

duncan_idaho 02-28-2021 10:48 AM

Swap Dozier for Alberto at 3B and Mondesi for Lopez into that lineup and I’ll roll with it against righties for a little bit.

Great Expectations 02-28-2021 11:55 AM

I think my setup with a fire stick, vpn, and mlb.tv app should work. Any reasons why it wouldn’t work? My VPN has been Dallas when I’ve tested it.

Prison Bitch 02-28-2021 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15555081)
Sure. But the dollar today is being discounted by COVID.

I’m really bullish on America and COVID and even MLB.

If I’m Sherman I go “long” on the industry.

I try to lock up in order:

1. Dozier

2. Keller
3. Salvy



Dayton was reading my post.

Coach 02-28-2021 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15566937)
Yesterday was the first time in at least 25 years (CBB database has spreads since 1996) that Kansas was a home dog. And it was a healthy -5.5


How’s that working out for ya Baylor?

Wrong thread, brah.

Mecca 02-28-2021 12:55 PM

Man reading this makes me happy I just use my parents account to watch the fox sports app.

Coach 02-28-2021 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 15566810)
If the Royals had the lead after 6, it was game, set, match. I’ve never had more fun following baseball and especially a bullpen as I did in 2014/2015

What really stood out to me for Herrera was that 2015 Game 5, where he pitched three scoreless innings in the seventh, eighth and ninth. That was very important, looking back, which saved Davis and the other arms when the game went to extras.

gblowfish 02-28-2021 02:22 PM

Sorry if a Q. Dozier just signed an extension. 4 years, $25 mill
https://www.foxsports.com/kansas-cit...30HM9jEAokXBNU

KChiefs1 02-28-2021 02:32 PM

Baseball is back.

Titty Meat 02-28-2021 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 15566928)
Dayton was reading my post.

Unfortunately he must have read your posts about not trading some of the core a few years back for assets too.

Mecca 02-28-2021 03:26 PM

Someone needs to explain to me why the Texas Rangers think they're a small market team. I don't understand, the DFW area is a top 5 market, it just makes absolutely no sense to me.

Prison Bitch 02-28-2021 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 15567084)
Unfortunately he must have read your posts about not trading some of the core a few years back for assets too.

There was no market for our “assets”.

ROYC75 02-28-2021 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 15567127)
Someone needs to explain to me why the Texas Rangers think they're a small market team. I don't understand, the DFW area is a top 5 market, it just makes absolutely no sense to me.

To Texans, the DFW area is small compared to the rest of Texas.

But you are correct, it's stupid to think DFW is a small market!

ChiefsCountry 02-28-2021 07:54 PM

Got to love strange spring training rules. We had bases loaded with Santana up and Texas just said they were done for the inning, pitch count too high lol.

dallaschiefsfan 03-01-2021 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 15567162)
To Texans, the DFW area is small compared to the rest of Texas.

But you are correct, it's stupid to think DFW is a small market!

Whaaaat? I live here. I have no idea what this means. And no...we are not small market at all. The Rangers approach is super easy to understand. They are hyper-conservative, fiscally and the owner definitely treats the Rangers like a business in which he wants to maximize profits. People go to the games, regardless (Covid season not withstanding).

sweendog48 03-01-2021 07:35 PM

Suely Matias hit a ball today that was estimated at 500 feet. I want to see the video, but they said it destroyed a palm tree out beyond the bullpen, Matheny said its the farthest he has ever seen a ball hit, he thought it was over 500.


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