Little Bill Daggett: I don't deserve this... to die like this. I was building a house.

Will Munny: Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.
[aims gun]

Little Bill Daggett: I'll see you in hell, William Munny.

Will Munny: Yeah.
[fires]

I totally agree. They picked who they wanted, and not who was more deserving. That's cool.

To Kansas: Prove it. You've said all year that you weren't a scheduling creation. Even after you lost to the first good team you played, and didn't look particularly good doing it. Even after you failed to win your conference or even your half of your conference. Without a win against a ranked team all year, still, you say you are a BCS team.

You got a gift. Now Virginia Tech is waiting. Prove it.

I agree. The BCS is all about the money. But I'm not sure what that has to do with the Orange picking KU over MU. Are you saying that somehow KU will produce more $$ than MU would? Why? I think you would have to ask the Orange selection committee to truly know.

I disagree with this too. There's even more money to be made in a playoff. More games, higher ratings, and you can still have sponsors like "Poulan Weed Eater" or whatever.

The Rose Bowl will grab the traditional Big10/Pac10 matchup 100 times out of 100.

All of them are disappointing, IMO... I'd much rather see Oklahoma or USC vs. one of the best SEC teams.

Too many college presidents of mediocre 7-5 football teams love the current system. They can tell their alumni and fanbase "Hey, we had a great season and topped it off with a trip to the Papajohns.com Bowl."

If there's a playoff, all of those teams not involved don't have their sweet (and lucrative) December vacation/football game for their alumni.

I wonder if USC absolutely demolished Illnois and OSU/LSU had a close, ugly game that OSU lost, if we'd have another split title?

Missouri did get screwed. But so did all the other top 10 teams that didn't get to play for the National Title. Everybody on here acts like they know which team is better than who. Let's be honest, none of you all have any idea. That's why they play the games..but you can only play one game for the title....and leave the rest out to play in some meaningless games. College Football really has some explaining to do.

actually K-State was ranked when we beat them in Manhatten off of their win against Texas. If you go by your justification MU sucks for only beating a crappy KU team by 6 points.

You can still do those sh***y bowls on the side. They don't matter now, why should they matter then? It would be just like the NIT in basketball, but there's no reason you have to do away with them.

I say if you are in the top 12 or even 8 you are good enough to compete for the championship game. Every single season there will be griping and moaning until there is a playoff. It's not KU's fault that we got the better bowl, that's what the "experts" picked and that's how it is. MU fans really need to stop crying like a 6 year old who didn't get what he wanted for Christmas.

The SEC is going to have a good bowl season, even if it did get screwed in the Cotton Bowl.

Well, I'm 1-for-1 so far compared to your 0-fah.

So good luck, kid.

It's absolutely hilarious... it happened last year, too. The second the schedule came out, everyone knew which teams were going to 'be destroyed'. People have incredibly short memories.

Like, how Mizzou beat Kansas a couple of weeks ago

The credibility is there in Miami for the taking. If Kansas beats Virginia Tech, assuming you think VT is good, they can be a team that turned out to be for real, even though they benefited from a shady bowl selection. If they lose to Virginia Tech, all that anybody is going to say is "Guess we were right about them."

So... prove it.

Kid? You must be kind of old if you're calling me kid.

at least that Mecca guy will shut up.

KU got the better bowl because they have much prettier uniforms.

That's as good a reason as any.

Maybe they wanted to match up two fictional cartoony bird mascots.

Yeah right, like that'll ever happen. :rolleyes:

Attack the rule, don't attack a deserving top 10 team.

LMAO

Totally sucks for MU. They beat KU, play a tougher schedule, and at the end of the day...end up going to a non-BCS bowl. This was probably the best case scenario for KU fans after the loss lost weekend. That said....

It is what it is guys. None of this shit matters. Cry me a river about why your team didn't get in or how much of a fraud KU may indeed be, but it's not changing anything and no one on the selection committee is listening to you right now.

1993 - 15 straight years of bowl games. We have only lost to the number 2 team in the country and we rectified one of those losses. Our Defense is ranked 4th overall in the nation. And we are going to destroy KU. Don't bother having a party.

They are neither deserving, nor will they be a top 10 team at the end of the year, I suspect.

What are they, #8 right now?

If they are #8, then they were top 10 at the moment I posted that, were they not?

And if they are top 10, then they are certainly deserving over teams like Illinois and West Virginia.

"deserving" means justified on your own merits.

West Virginia was an automatic bid for winning their conference. KU was #3 in their conference. I wouldn't say KU is more deserving than WVU.

I can only go by what I see. When someone's calling people reeruns, I can only assume their balls are tight and pubes are few and far between. No adult could be that stupid.

Pfft... it's been 40 years since Kansas' last trip to the Orange Bowl. That's reason enough to party.

And is it okay if we go ahead and show up and play anyway? I mean, Kansas is so cold in January...

Maybe if MU doesnt lose by 3 touchdowns to OU, they get in the Orange bowl....Possible?

So they won a bad conference, and lost on the final day to a bad Pittsburgh team. What greatness.

Your right, its better to finish 2nd in the North then to play in the conference championship game

NO KU FANS HERE HAVE CLAIMED....................
 

THE KU FOOTBALL TEAM SUPERIOR TO THE MU FOOTBALL TEAM!!!!!!!!










Our head coach is a portly and has a healthy appetite. The Orange Bowl committee saw a larger profit margin in potential food sales. So there.

They've also beaten 2 teams that are currently ranked. How many has KU beaten?

June Jones is smack talking the hell out of Tim Tebow right now. ROFL

Called him an average quarterback in a great system.

MU lost last and lost badly. Thats all there is to it.

Am I the only one who just saw that June Jones interview?

Yep and KU really put an ass pounding on that tv set sitting at home sipping Kool Aid

I guess if you're going to ask an expert about average system quarterbacks... :shrug: Didn't he say his average system quarterback was going to throw for 60 TDs this year? Eh...

Georgia, VT, Oklahoma, USC, and LSU all win easily. Horrible bowl selections, and the committee should be ashamed of itself.

That was almost unreal. I've never heard a college coach go out of his way to belittle a player on some other team.

And yes, the irony of him pumping up his own quarterback while criticizing another QB for being a 'system quarterback'. ROFL

you know my friend was coming back from Illinois or Iowa for Thanksgiving and went to a bar in KC to watch the KU vs MU game. Him and his fiance were both wearing KU shirts and he told me he got punches thrown at him and drinks threw onto him by MU fans, and this guy wasn't talking trash or anything he was minding his own business and probably clapping when KU did something positive. I told him that I wasn't surprised at all. MU fans are classless.

Apparently they like blowouts.

Never said that....Just that maybe MU goes to the Orange bowl if they didnt get bent over by OU last night.

If he's a whiny bitch like you, I figure he probably had it coming.

Did they penalize the MU fans 14 times?
 

June Jones is an idiot. He'll get to see how 'average' Tebow is firsthand August 30th, 2008.

Stick up and campaign for your own player, but that's completely classless to bash another player.

They'll be talking Kansas in a couple of minutes on ESPN. I wasn't really paying attention to what they said before the commercials, but I assume they'll be talking to Mangino. He'll be on both ESPN and ESPN2.

I think MU turned down the Orange Bowl......
 

This post was taken from the Tigger board admist their melt down after losing out on the BCS bowls... Just thought some of you might get a chuckle....


Perhaps the Orange Bowl wanted us as their choice, but took Kansas as the back-up choice. Perhaps Pinkel & Alden wanted to play in Dallas, Texas where we've got a serious recruiting pipeline underway, where we can easily get lot of our fans to, where lots of our current recruits and their families can see us play, where Chase Daniel will get incredible local publicity as a hometown hero, where we get to play a name opponent that we most likely can handle, and where we can still play on New Year's day as the first game out of the gate. Other than the Orange Bowl having a bit more prestige as a BCS bowl, we will get more mileage out of the Cotton Bowl. That's why I pose the possibility that the Cotton is what Pinkel wanted.




Remember before the BCS show at 7:00 started it was rumored here that MU was accepting the Cotton Bowl. If true....................................QUIT UR ****IN BITCHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Interesting, and it would make a lot of sense, if true.

I'm not whining! I'm very happy we got a BCS Bowl game! I've noticed one thing about you though, you seem to be the "internet gangster" you constantly try to insult others and why do you think that is? I know, it's because you need to do that because it's the only way to make yourself feel better about yourself. Grow up man.

Ahhh no.....millions of dollars for the MU program on the line....no....they got hosed. I guess they thing KU fans will travel better.

Please. You tell me, what was the point of that stupid post? "MU fans are classless, they beat up my poor friend for nothing :deevee: "

I don't try to disguise my shots and act all wounded afterwards, Nancy. Maybe you should grow up.

I'm late to the party, did MU get screwed? Or do I need to start a new thread to ask?

Yeah, I'd have to hear that from Pinkel himself to believe it.

Although the recruiting aspect will certainly play to our advantage. Nobody in Florida's going to commit to KU, no matter what they do in that game.

I found that it's about $17 million for the Orange and $3 million for the Cotton... but those are 'conference payouts'.

I saw one article that said a team got about $1 million of the $3 million for the Cotton Bowl last year, and the conference split the rest. Would it be the same split for all bowls?

I don't know what the ratio is, buts it would have really helped the program.

Pot meet kettle. What you said was ignorant but I'm immature for calling you out on it? ROFL Okay, keep living in your little bubble there, Mecca's sidekick.

ROFL
Hilarious how MU fans talk about KU's program like they know anything about college football. Suddenly, MU is elite. ROFL

FYI, there was an article earlier in the season I read that was talking about a few Florida recruits that said specifically that they had taken notice of KU. They probably would not have even considered the Jayhawks had it not been for KU going undefeated (at that time) and been on TV a lot. But you keep hoping that these things aren't true if that makes you feel better about your KU hatred.

Get over yourself. Did I say anywhere that MU was elite? NO. Top Florida recruits wouldn't come to MU based on a single Orange Bowl appearance any more than than they will KU. They will go to the major Florida/SEC schools.

You can't honestly be stupid enough to think otherwise, can you?

Well, maybe you can. :shake:

:) lol

GO KU ....

That's a bunch of bullshit. It's always about money.

SWEET!

Unbelieveable! LSU going to the National Championship for the 2nd time in 4 years!

Woo Hoo!

Hopefully the SEC claims its 3rd title in the last 5 years. Also would like to see the SEC extend its BCS W-L record from 9-4 to 11-4.

Additionally, OSU can extend its record against the SEC in bowl games from 0-8 to 0-9. :D

You know, my first reaction was, "BS! Mizzou got hosed! etc..." - and the BCS system IS sorely lacking - but we laid an absolute egg in the Big 12 championship and I can't really blame anyone for leaving us out. We looked severely pedestrian in that game and why would they want that. Congrats to KU on your season and...until we meet again...:)

Now, LSU getting into the NC game? I'd much rather have seen Georgia in there.

Georgia didn't win the conference or their division. They shouldn't be playing for the NC.

You're the Oklahoma fan right........

You can go ahead and say whatever I don't care, just remember what happened the last time our teams played, so I can see why you wouldn't like me supporting my team to much.

I can understand that BUT...since Georgia is in the SEC, I could not think of a better opponent for them to play than Hawaii! ;)

Hawaii will own them. Bulldog on the luau! :)

ROFL

Jaw-ja will eat Hawaii alive. I hope all SEC teams win their bowl games. I don't know how/why any SEC fan wouldn't.

God I hope so. Three titles would be awesome! With 5 weeks before the big game, hopefully Flynn and Dorsey will be healthy. :thumb:

You said nothing about top Florida recruits. Your exact words were:
I called you out on that ridiculous statement.

Your right. Of course I hope all SEC teams win their bowls. It was the interview of the Georgia coach that kinda bent my halo. ;)

Now here is a fan with some sense. I disagree about the LSU/Georgia part, though. I think they got the right team to play against OSU.

ROFL

Wait what.....KU doesn't recruit Florida and probably shouldn't......there's 3 huge schools there..not to mention the UCF's and USF's the whole SEC recruits that state and even SC will go down there for players...

Competing in that state isn't a good idea unless you have major pull.

This whole conversation is ridiculous. It's like the parties involved have never followed recruiting at all..which is no surprise.