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DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:11 PM
Jay Cutler didn't start game 1. Midway through season 1.

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506058)
What leads you to believe that he isn't ready? How many games have you seen him play? All four quarters?
I readily admit I have only watched 2-3 games of him and I was very very impressed with his Rose Bowl performance.

The main reason is his lack of experience at playing QB in games.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506107)
Just my opinion but if you draft a QB in the Top 5 you are basically wanting them to be the starter on opening day or very, very soon after.

When was the last time a team drafted a QB in the Top 5 and let them sit for a year? That would be an interesting bit of information.
Carson Palmer and Philip Rivers. Eli Manning and Jay Cutler started at mid-season.

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 5506127)
Your comparison is better. Well done.

I do see a little Anderson in Stafford. Stafford did get screwed by his receivers running bad or incorrect routes and his line giving him Jordan Black time to throw the ball.

He has had to overcome adversity time and time again without changing his playing style. ALL of the great ones have this quality to pull the trigger however the game was going before.
Stafford is a ****ing great prospect. There should be an orgasm of epic proportions by all KC fans if the Chiefs select him at #3.

That said, I really, really like Sanchez.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506130)
I readily admit I have only watched 2-3 games of him and I was very very impressed with his Rose Bowl performance.

The main reason is his lack of experience at playing QB in games.
I don't think that'll be as big of factor as some are making it due to his impressive skill set (plays well under pressure, accurate, great footwork, strong arm but can throw the touch pass).

Think a shorter Troy Aikman (who many Chiefsplanet members think sucks LMAO).

philfree 02-18-2009 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506105)
So, a guy that makes a bunch of plays in the ACC is suddenly worth the #3 overall pick?

Huh?
Apparently alot of people think he's worth a top five and one of the top three players in the draft. After watching the video I see why they think what they do. So is Curry worth a the 3rd pick in the 2009 draft? I think he is. I'd rather have Stafford and I'll certainly embrace Sanchez but with the way this draft stacks up he's worth the 3rd pick.

PhilFree:arrow:

notorious 02-18-2009 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5506134)
Stafford is a ****ing great prospect. There should be an orgasm of epic proportions by all KC fans if the Chiefs select him at #3.

That said, I really, really like Sanchez.
Elway ceiling. I hate comparing him to a Donk, but that is what I see Stafford being if he gets the right coaching and meets 100% of his potential. If not, I honestly see him being just an average QB, not a bust. He has overcome too much adversity in games playing at Georgia. That shows me that he will probably not bust in the NFL.

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506133)
Carson Palmer and Philip Rivers. Eli Manning and Jay Cutler started at mid-season.
Thanks. I was just curious and I am not trying to bash Sanchez I want a franchise QB. God knows this team finally needs to get one.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5506140)
Apparently alot of people think he's worth a top five and one of the top three players in the draft. After watching the video I see why they think what they do. So is Curry worth a the 3rd pick in the 2009 draft? I think he is. I'd rather have Stafford and I'll certainly embrace Sanchez but with the way this draft stacks up he's wirththe 3rd pick.

PhilFree:arrow:
I wouldn't be shocked to see Curry slip to the Browns.

#3 overall is just too high for a cover linebacker who doesn't rush the passer, doesn't have elite speed and played in the ACC. I'm not saying he won't be a solid pro but at #3, you better get a superstar, not just a lunch pail guy.

ChiefsCountry 02-18-2009 11:17 PM
I think Maybin or Brown will be taken higher than Curry.

doomy3 02-18-2009 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506145)
I wouldn't be shocked to see Curry slip to the Browns.

#3 overall is just too high for a cover linebacker who doesn't rush the passer, doesn't have elite speed and played in the ACC. I'm not saying he won't be a solid pro but at #3, you better get a superstar, not just a lunch pail guy.
This holds true for ALL positions, so if the Chiefs do draft Sanchez, he better be a top 5 NFL QB.

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 5506142)
Elway ceiling. I hate comparing him to a Donk, but that is what I see Stafford being if he gets the right coaching and meets 100% of his potential.
Agreed. Completely.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5506153)
I think Maybin or Brown will be taken higher than Curry.
Don't worry man we'll take Curry on our quest back to 8-8.

bigdreams1 02-18-2009 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5505502)
Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career...

Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position.

Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.
Thank God someone said it. Bart Scott>Aaron Curry you pick! I don't see any other option than to draft Sanchez or Stafford with this pick.

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506154)
This holds true for ALL positions, so if the Chiefs do draft Sanchez, he better be a top 5 NFL QB.
Ideally, sure.

But this is where you get into arguments about overall positional value. Remember Rain Man's thread about how many Pro Bowls a QB would need to make to be equal value to Will Shields?

And what was ****ing stupid is that otherwise intelligent posters were voting for shit like 7 or 8.

Are you ****ing kidding me? No one can be this ****ing dense when it comes to the QB position.

Sorry in advance to anyone that voted even somewhat high on this poll. Interesting sentence construction by me. Being high would be the only excuse I'm accepting.

doomy3 02-18-2009 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506114)
What difference is Calvin Johnson making for the Lions? What difference did Joey Harrington make for the Lions? What difference did Barry Sanders make for the Lions?
Mecca, do you want to answer this, since you were screaming like a little girl about Sims?

notorious 02-18-2009 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5506155)
Agreed. Completely.
Back to the original Thread now. IMO Curry is not worth a #3 pick. No way. I want to take a chance at a game changer at #3. Too bad there probably won't be one available by then....... : (

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506161)
Don't worry man we'll take Curry on our quest back to 8-8.
Mecca don't you trust Pioli to make the best decision for this team? Carl isn't here anymore so lighten up a little.

Chiefnj2 02-18-2009 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506161)
Don't worry man we'll take Curry on our quest back to 8-8.
You'd like that. If Sanchez isn't the pick, you'd hope that the first rounder fails and the team fails just so you could say "I told you so".

doomy3 02-18-2009 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5506168)
Ideally, sure.

But this is where you get into arguments about overall positional value. Remember Rain Man's thread about how many Pro Bowls a QB would need to make to be equal value to Will Shields?

And what was ****ing stupid is that otherwise intelligent posters were voting for shit like 7 or 8.

Are you ****ing kidding me? No one can be this ****ing dense when it comes to the QB position.

Sorry in advance to anyone that voted even somewhat high on this poll. Interesting sentence construction by me. Being high would be the only excuse I'm accepting.
No, but you can't be happy with an average QB at 3. Same as if Curry is drafted there, the expectation is to be a Ray Lewis type. At 3, Sanchez can't be Jake Delhomme.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506171)
Mecca, do you want to answer this, since you were screaming like a little girl about Sims?
This will be some awesome point I'm sure.....

The point should be without a QB you are nothing.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506154)
This holds true for ALL positions, so if the Chiefs do draft Sanchez, he better be a top 5 NFL QB.
Top 5 what? Wins? TD's? Yardage?

At #3, you want a superstar player, period. Whether it's DE, CB, RB, LT or QB. You'd better be drafting an Orlando Pace, Mario Williams, Deion Sanders, Barry Sanders, Donovan McNabb type guy.

Aaron Curry is not a game-changing, difference maker. Therefore, he should not be selected with the #3 overall pick.

Pewiod.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5506180)
You'd like that. If Sanchez isn't the pick, you'd hope that the first rounder fails and the team fails just so you could say "I told you so".
Nah I'm just generally right, lets ask Tamba Hali about it.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506178)
Mecca don't you trust Pioli to make the best decision for this team? Carl isn't here anymore so lighten up a little.
If we take Aaron Curry with a top 5 pick I don't care if God himself made the pick I'm going to call it ****in reeruned.

notorious 02-18-2009 11:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506178)
Mecca don't you trust Pioli to make the best decision for this team? Carl isn't here anymore so lighten up a little.
You are right, we are all getting pumped over something we have 0 control over. The scary thing is, for the first time in 19 years we will have no clue about what player we are going to pick in the draft.

Sounds like fun to me!

Well, so far, until somebody's feelings get hurt LOL.

doomy3 02-18-2009 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506183)
Top 5 what? Wins? TD's? Yardage?

At #3, you want a superstar player, period. Whether it's DE, CB, RB, LT or QB. You'd better be drafting an Orlando Pace, Mario Williams, Deion Sanders, Barry Sanders, Donovan McNabb type guy.

Aaron Curry is not a game-changing, difference maker. Therefore, he should not be selected with the #3 overall pick.

Pewiod.
I agree with this.

I won't say that Curry isn't a difference maker though. Haven't seen him play enough

Chiefnj2 02-18-2009 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506186)
Nah I'm just generally right, lets ask Tamba Hali about it.
Lets ask Gholston, Jake Long and Matt Leinart.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506181)
No, but you can't be happy with an average QB at 3. Same as if Curry is drafted there, the expectation is to be a Ray Lewis type. At 3, Sanchez can't be Jake Delhomme.
A top 10 QB is more valuable than a top 5 LB that doesn't rush the passer....

The Titans would trade Keith Bulluck for Roethlisberger in a second and they'd be better off.

ChiefsCountry 02-18-2009 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 5506189)
You are right, we are all getting pumped over something we have 0 control over. The scary thing is, for the first time in 19 years we will have no clue about what player we are going to pick in the draft.

Sounds like fun to me!
New England wasnt that hard to figure out who they were drafting.

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506181)
No, but you can't be happy with an average QB at 3. Same as if Curry is drafted there, the expectation is to be a Ray Lewis type. At 3, Sanchez can't be Jake Delhomme.
It would be disappointing, for sure.

But, worst case scenario, the QB provides solid, steady play (makes a Pro Bowl or two) for 10 years, the LB would have to do a shit ton more to surpass this overall solid, if unspectacular, value.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5506193)
Lets ask Gholston, Jake Long and Matt Leinart.
Gholston is obviously a bust after 1 season, call Dorsey tell him he sucks too...

Jake Long is still not worth the 1st pick, and hey it's my fault Arizona hired a coach to run an offense Leinart can't play in.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5506193)
Lets ask Gholston, Jake Long and Matt Leinart.
I'm so happy you're here to tell us that all of these players are busts.

Otherwise, I wouldn't have known.

Mario Williams was a bust after his first season too, right? Neil Smith was a bust as well.

rad 02-18-2009 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506183)
Pewiod.
You just get back from the dentist?

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506201)
Gholston is obviously a bust after 1 season, call Dorsey tell him he sucks too...

Jake Long is still not worth the 1st pick, and hey it's my fault Arizona hired a coach to run an offense Leinart can't play in.
The 49ers hired a coach to run an offense that Alex Smith couldn't play in.

:D

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:26 PM
Amazing how the Williams, Bush thing has done a complete 180.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rad (Post 5506204)
You just get back from the dentist?
Gotta shake things up from time to time.

:D

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:27 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506206)
The 49ers hired a coach to run an offense that Alex Smith couldn't play in.

:D
I think it's funny to see people try to prove points in this most reeruned way possible.

The point still stands even the best LB's that don't get sacks aren't all that valuable.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5506207)
Amazing how the Williams, Bush thing has done a complete 180.
I'd still take Reggie Bush on my team.

He IS a game changer. Punt returns for TD's, kick returns for TD's, receiving TD's and rushing TD's.

keg in kc 02-18-2009 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506201)
Gholston is obviously a bust after 1 season, call Dorsey tell him he sucks too...
Gholston never should have been drafted where he was.
Quote:
Jake Long is still not worth the 1st pick,
I'm one of the biggest michigan homers around and I agree with that. Miami had to be looking to save $$$. I'd have considered him at 5 if he'd been there, but at 1? No way. Course, I'd have taken Ryan...

notorious 02-18-2009 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5506197)
New England wasnt that hard to figure out who they were drafting.
This is Pioli away from NE with a Chief's team that has a million holes. Unless a proven college stud has an amazing combine, we are not going to have a good bearing on what direction our #3 pick is going to go.

New England was predictable due to having a solid team across the board with a few non-stengths.

K.C. is unpredictable because we could draft just about any position and still upgrade our team.

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506188)
If we take Aaron Curry with a top 5 pick I don't care if God himself made the pick I'm going to call it ****in reeruned.
You may call it reeruned but he helped build a dynasty and has the rings to show for it.

So I am good with whoever he picks but it seems like you will bitch regardless.

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506217)
I'd still take Reggie Bush on my team.

He IS a game changer. Punt returns for TD's, kick returns for TD's, receiving TD's and rushing TD's.
Solid player. Good player. But the Vikings can thank him going #2 for getting AP at #7.

And I know we'd both rather have Williams.

DaneMcCloud 02-18-2009 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506214)
I think it's funny to see people try to prove points in this most reeruned way possible.

The point still stands even the best LB's that don't get sacks aren't all that valuable.
And they use an undrafted, 30 year-old linebacker as their basis for drafting Curry. Which of course, makes no sense.

Carl Peterson really is the devil. He's brainwashed these poor people so badly they can't even think objectively or accurately.

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 5506189)
You are right, we are all getting pumped over something we have 0 control over. The scary thing is, for the first time in 19 years we will have no clue about what player we are going to pick in the draft.

Sounds like fun to me!

Well, so far, until somebody's feelings get hurt LOL.
Yep you are exactly right. People are going to bitch just to bitch because they think they know more than Pioli.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506228)
You may call it reeruned but he helped build a dynasty and has the rings to show for it.

So I am good with whoever he picks but it seems like you will bitch regardless.
I don't place blind faith in anyone, Dick Vermiel won a Superbowl too.

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506232)
Carl Peterson really is the devil. He's brainwashed these poor people so badly they can't even think objectively or accurately.
You know how many wives Carl Peterson ****ed? I'd be pissed, too.

philfree 02-18-2009 11:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5506145)
I wouldn't be shocked to see Curry slip to the Browns.

#3 overall is just too high for a cover linebacker who doesn't rush the passer, doesn't have elite speed and played in the ACC. I'm not saying he won't be a solid pro but at #3, you better get a superstar, not just a lunch pail guy.
Whoever we draft with the #3 pick should be a superstar. The odds are against us in this draft for that I fear.


PhilFree:arrow:

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506241)
Yep you are exactly right. People are going to bitch just to bitch because they think they know more than Pioli.
Well if no one should question the great Pioli or have a thought of their own lets close down the damn forum then, unless we're all gonna sit here and go "lets suck his cock, ok your turn"

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506250)
Well if no one should question the great Pioli or have a thought of their own lets close down the damn forum then, unless we're all gonna sit here and go "lets suck his cock, ok your turn"
You first, dude.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5506253)
You first, dude.
Well really that's what it sounds like, "how dare you question Scott Pioli" well what the hell do we have a forum then?

That's a lazy argument.

rad 02-18-2009 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506250)
Well if no one should question the great Pioli or have a thought of their own lets close down the damn forum then, unless we're all gonna sit here and go "lets suck his cock, ok your turn"

LMAO LMAO

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506242)
I don't place blind faith in anyone, Dick Vermiel won a Superbowl too.
I can understand that after 2-3 years of complete suckage but this is his first draft for this team so maybe you should cut him some slack.

None of us has a clue what they are thinking about over at Arrowhead and what their plans are.

I kind of like all the secrecy.

Chiefnj2 02-18-2009 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506267)
Well really that's what it sounds like, "how dare you question Scott Pioli" well what the hell do we have a forum then?

That's a lazy argument.
Coming from Mr. "How dare anyone disagree with me about Sanchez".

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:36 PM
I'm never going to place blind faith in anyone, I will always have my opinions of teams and players, if they prove me wrong so be it but I'd rather than than sit here and go "hey I trust Pioli so I'm not gonna say nothin"

notorious 02-18-2009 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506250)
Well if no one should question the great Pioli or have a thought of their own lets close down the damn forum then, unless we're all gonna sit here and go "lets suck his cock, ok your turn"
It's great and fun that we have our own opinions.

We have been led by a turd for so long it is nice to have SOME confidence in our GM. Hell, some of us at CP don't even know how to handle it after slamming Peterless for so long.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5506276)
Coming from Mr. "How dare anyone disagree with me about Sanchez".
The Sanchez stuff has been covered 8 thousand times it's not my fault you didn't take the minute out of your day to read those threads.

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506267)
Well really that's what it sounds like, "how dare you question Scott Pioli" well what the hell do we have a forum then?

That's a lazy argument.
Anytime I see a user's name that begins with "Smart", "Thoughtful" or some such shit, I know this is the line that's inevitably going to come.

Don't question Scott! Loves you some Chiefs!

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 5506279)
It's great and fun that we have our own opinions.

We have been led by a turd for so long it is nice to have SOME confidence in our GM. Hell, some of us at CP don't even know how to handle it after slamming Peterless for so long.
Confidence is one thing, blind faith is another.

If they take a OT at 3 I'm going to call Scott Pioli a moron.

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506250)
Well if no one should question the great Pioli or have a thought of their own lets close down the damn forum then, unless we're all gonna sit here and go "lets suck his cock, ok your turn"
What I stated was true. No matter who we draft people on here will bitch and moan you disagree with that? That wasn't directed specifically at you btw.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506289)
What I stated was true. No matter who we draft people on here will bitch and moan you disagree with that? That wasn't directed specifically at you btw.
Half the forum doesn't even understand the term positional value so lets realize who we are talking about.

Reerun_KC 02-18-2009 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 5506246)
Whoever we draft with the #3 pick should be a superstar. The odds are against us in this draft for that I fear.


PhilFree:arrow:
That is the KeyWord as to why we have sucked for 20 straight years, sans the year where Montana was stronger than Marty's dipshittery...

notorious 02-18-2009 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506285)
Confidence is one thing, blind faith is another.

If they take a OT at 3 I'm going to call Scott Pioli a moron.
I agree. In fact I think it would be against the odds if Pioli takes us to the big game.

That's just the skeptic in me, though. It is a lot harder to win it all then to just hire the hot GM from the hot franchise.

We have to realize that the game is always evolving. If your team is the next step in the evolutionary ladder, you are probably going to win the big one. If you are the copycat team, you are a step behind.

I believe 100% we are a copycat team. Please prove me wrong KC.

doomy3 02-18-2009 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506285)
Confidence is one thing, blind faith is another.

If they take a OT at 3 I'm going to call Scott Pioli a moron.
So, honestly, who WON'T you call Pioli a moron for taking? You have already said that about Crabtree, Curry, and OT. So, it really is Sanchez, Stafford, or Pioli's a moron, huh?

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506307)
So, honestly, who WON'T you call Pioli a moron for taking? You have already said that about Crabtree, Curry, and OT. So, it really is Sanchez, Stafford, or Pioli's a moron, huh?
Top of the board in this draft isn't that impressive they only have a few legit options...

And he already got a strike for keeping that bag of douche Tim Krumrie.

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506295)
Half the forum doesn't even understand the term positional value so lets realize who we are talking about.
Doesn't matter. There will be people that will be pissed at whoever we pick.

Also I am like you I don't put blind faith in people but this one time I am going to put my trust in Pioli because IMO he has earned it.

keg in kc 02-18-2009 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506295)
Half the forum doesn't even understand the term positional value so lets realize who we are talking about.
Is that like saying reverse cowgirl > lotus position > missionary?

rad 02-18-2009 11:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506307)
So, honestly, who WON'T you call Pioli a moron for taking? You have already said that about Crabtree, Curry, and OT. So, it really is Sanchez, Stafford, or Pioli's a moron, huh?
Pretty much, yeah.

notorious 02-18-2009 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506318)
Doesn't matter. There will be people that will be pissed at whoever we pick.

Also I am like you I don't put blind faith in people but this one time I am going to put my trust in Pioli because IMO he has earned it.
Agreed, it is nice to have some confidence in our GM. We are out of our element though, so people are going to act strange.

doomy3 02-18-2009 11:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506317)
Top of the board in this draft isn't that impressive they only have a few legit options...

And he already got a strike for keeping that bag of douche Tim Krumrie.
So, unless he drafts one of the two QBs, Scott Pioli is a moron?

DeezNutz 02-18-2009 11:45 PM
Jenkins.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 5506327)
Agreed, it is nice to have some confidence in our GM. We are out of our element though, so people are going to act strange.
All that confidence could be gone in 3 months.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506329)
So, unless he drafts one of the two QBs, Scott Pioli is a moron?
It's QB's and Jenkins and that's really it, none of those other players are justifiable.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5506331)
Jenkins.
I know I've only covered that like 22 times, I guess people around here have really shitty memories, old age must suck.

dirk digler 02-18-2009 11:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506307)
So, honestly, who WON'T you call Pioli a moron for taking? You have already said that about Crabtree, Curry, and OT. So, it really is Sanchez, Stafford, or Pioli's a moron, huh?
So basically Pioli has a 50% of chance of being god or being a moron?

The Buddha 02-18-2009 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5506329)
So, unless he drafts one of the two QBs, Scott Pioli is a moron?
Maybe he's trying to say that with the weak crop this year, this is the perfect time to take a chance.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5506340)
So basically Pioli has a 50% of chance of being god or being a moron?
If he doesn't get the #3 overall pick right this year it probably will be a bad omen for the future of our team, this a pick that can't be screwed up.

notorious 02-18-2009 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506332)
All that confidence could be gone in 3 months.
True. But there is another powerful thing that Pioli brings to the table.



Hope.

But as I stated in a previous post, I am very skeptical of Pioli. But I still have hope.

Mecca 02-18-2009 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by The Buddha (Post 5506341)
Maybe he's trying to say that with the weak crop this year, this is the perfect time to take a chance.
The top 2 guys are as good as any year it doesn't start dropping till after that.

notorious 02-18-2009 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506348)
The top 2 guys are as good as any year it doesn't start dropping till after that.
That's why sitting at #3 sucks balls. #3-15 is pretty much the same except for the $$$ involved to sign them.

doomy3 02-18-2009 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5506338)
I know I've only covered that like 22 times, I guess people around here have really shitty memories, old age must suck.
Contrary to what you might think, there are people on here who don't hang on every word you say. I don't value your opinion over anyone elses, so if you said that, I missed it.


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