For QB's, their pro day is more important. How many balls did Sanchez throw today? He's likely to throw over 50 at his pro day. I'm guessing the dough he's spending, and the work he's doing might have a little to do with that.

And the majority of that investment is for the lessons on the wonderlic and interview preparation.

Thats a totally reasonable statement. However, saying that the combine means nothing to the value of a QB is not reasonable. There are scouts that participated in todays workout that may have decided not to go to his pro day. He could have been injured. He could have convinced scouts and coaches that maybe it was worth going to his pro day. There are several things that could come from today. After his performance none of those things are positive.

Every single team will have at least one scout at USC's pro day.

As it will be with every major program with more than 1 or 2 legit prospects.

There's more to the draft than round 1.

Would you spend that kind of money on interview advice when you have an agent? One could certainly argue that many football players aren't getting thier moneys worth in reguards to "training for thier wonderlic".

If it helped me for the important parts of the combine for a QB to ensure a multi-million dollar contract, Hell YEAH.

Well then you and I agree, the combine does matter. My original arguement was that these players dont show up for no reason. You may think that the throwing dont matter. I happen to think it does, or no one would do it or elect not to do it. But the basic fact remains the same. The combine does matter for QBs.

I've said this like 10 times:

The only part of the combine that matters for QBs are interviews and the Wonderlic.

The reason why guys who are second tier QBs throw at the combine is because they are desperate to get buzz any way that they can. They are fighting for their professional lives. 1st round Qbs aren't.

The reason why Sanchez did everything at the combine is because he was desperate to get buzz to help elevate him above Stafford.

It's the same reason why Quinn did everything two years ago. He was trying to boost himself ahead of Russell.

Unless he aces his wonderlic and Stafford gets a 22 or below, he failed. But he tried.

He needed to hit a grand slam to pass Stafford on people's boards anyway. He didn't do it. In fact, he didn't get on base at all. He made an out, but it was a productive out.

He showed himself to be willing to do anything to get the attention of teams. It's not enough to elevate him, but it is enough to give him props in the determination and drive department.

Still questioning if there is a player worth top 5 pick this year for us :/

Certain posters are conspicuous by their absence today:D

It's funny that the combine suddenly doesn't matter to some people. I've said Sanchez would be the pick at 3, but I wasn't crazy about it.

nope no top 5s this year:D

I'm sorry. I didn't see the other posts. I just saw the post where you said the combine didn't matter for QBs. I think we agree on this post for the most part.

I do think if you stand to elevate your status, then you certainly can hurt your status as well. In the case of Sanchez, I'm not sure anyone behind him is close enough that he would fall behind them. In fact, I'm sure there's not. I guess what I'm saying is that if he could pass Stafford then he could get passed by someone as well. That would indicate that passing does mean at least something. But I agree that the interviewing process is likely the most important for a QB.

I was looking at Sanchez today hoping for a little more confidence in picking him. In turn I lost a little. I'm not particularly dead set against the guy, just leary of his experience and past history picking QBs in his senario. I personally think that we are very likely to draft him. It would make sense from a ticket sales stand point. At least at 1st.

Being a defensive guy myself I'm still leaning the other way. But I was watching today hoping that Sanchez would stand above the rest of the guys out there.

Honestly I now I"ll be blasted for this but I wasn't overly impressed with sanchez and I still think it is a mistake to take him that high.

True fans unite, Sanchez sucks and we're the doomed.

I want nothing to do with Sanchez. Never have been on his bandwagon. If we take a QB at #3, it better be Stafford. I'd much rather get Bomar or White over Sanchez. I'm still in the boat of Aaron Curry at #3.

Post-combine, my preferences for the #3 pick would probably be:

1. Stafford
2. Curry
3. Trade-down
4. Jason Smith


I definitely hope a guy like Mack or Unger falls to us in the 2nd round.

or the eric wood kid that guy has a major mean streak.

Bomar or White? White? Am I reading this correctly?

This is going to start to get even more ridiculous as the draft draws closer.

Widcat man!!!!!

****.

That tiny little sumbitch. I wonder if he's even able to get a life insurance policy, given his future aspirations?

One of the 3 Centers will be in our grasp at our 2nd round pick....and that makes me VERY happy. However, sitting in the Chiefs position, I think you're more likely thinking:

1. Sanchez/Stafford
2. Raji
3. Trade for unreal compensation.

And while you have to like this draft for Tackles, I'm thinking now that it plays heavily in our favor that we don't need one. It means that more and more talent at positions we do need, will likely be available when it otherwise might not. I think the toss up for us is really going to start in the 2nd, where we could be looking at Heyward-Bey vs. our Center of choice.

Pat White isn't even a QB at the NFL level.

I was going to write the same thing.

White will never make an active roster in the NFL as a QB. Never.

Edit: Assuming Herm never gets another HC job and pulls some Hagans (sp?) bullshit.

And experience that includes more than 1 year. IMO.

I'de be willing to bet that 90% of the people bitching about Sanchez today were the very people calling for trINT Green's head after his first season with the Chiefs. Both QB's came into situations in which there wasn't chemistry with their WR's, and it showed on the stat sheet. To boot, the combine can cost a player MILLIONS on draft day for a poor showing (Jeremy Maclin). Scouts aren't stupid and have hours or tape to watch to determine draft status. Sanchez will be a top 5 pick, and Maclin's injury (pulled hammy?) might have dropped him from a top 10 pick to the late teens.

I don't follow your logic. If a poor showing won't affect Sanchez because of all the tape on him, then why would a poor showing affect Maclin? Isn't there more tape of Maclin anyways?

40 times mean everything to WR's and DB's he also came in shorter than his listed height.

He'll run again though.

Most teams are smart enough to realize the strongest arm isn't the best way to evaluate who you should make your QB.

True enough, but most scouts saw that Maclin was having trouble today with his leg and I think they're smart enough to see his game speed on tape anyways. Some guys seem to have better game speed.

If we were able to get one of the QBs and Heyward-Bey, that would be awesome...but I doubt he falls to our 2nd...

Mecca answered part of your question. But, it's hard yo judge a QB who's throwing to WR's that he has basically zero chemistry with. Trint Green looked like shit his first season in KC. Then look what happened after he developed chemistry with his WR's. Today Sanchez looked like shit with far less time to develope chemistry than Trint did. But, they have multiple hours of actual game tape to watch to determine how he throws in game situations and different scenarios.

Maclin, who I LIKE, had a poor showing today likely due to a pulled hammy or a lingering injury. Break away speed is crutial in WR's if you're going to be a top pick, and teams are going to be nervous to give a guy tens of millions in guaranteed money to a guy who's going to sit out due to nagging injuries.

Fair enough....