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doomy3 03-04-2009 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5553975)
I wonder if Zouk will be able to pass up Freeman's measureables, given that his only options are a low-functioning reerun and a dry drunk pushing 40.

I'm really interested for that pick.

Are you hoping he falls to your third round pick so you can draft him too?

Hootie 03-04-2009 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 5554037)
Are you hoping he falls to your third round pick so you can draft him too?

ROFL

ChiefsCountry 03-04-2009 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5553975)
I wonder if Zouk will be able to pass up Freeman's measureables, given that his only options are a low-functioning reerun and a dry drunk pushing 40.

I'm really interested for that pick.

The pick after him makes more sense IMO for Freeman.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-04-2009 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5554087)
The pick after him makes more sense IMO for Freeman.

He fits that offense better than Leinart, but I'm wondering what offense Young fits outside of a Veer.

ChiefsCountry 03-04-2009 12:48 PM

If I was Arizona I would consider Freeman, trade Leinart to Minnesota for a 2nd and let him groom under Warner.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-04-2009 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5554148)
If I was Arizona I would consider Freeman, trade Leinart to Minnesota for a 2nd and let him groom under Warner.

Tampa and Minnesota should both be going after him hard.

ChiefsCountry 03-04-2009 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 5554176)
Tampa and Minnesota should both be going after him hard.

Agree - look at our draft, you add Leinart and Mack, Minnesota's offense is looking pretty good. You add a WCO QB for a WCO to go along with that running game, it seems like the perfect fit.

DaKCMan AP 03-04-2009 01:06 PM

The Ravens biggest needs revolve around replenishing an aging and free agency raided defense. Bart Scott is a Jet and Ray Lewis is looking elsewhere meaning the Ravens could be without both starting ILBs. Even if Lewis resigns they need someone to play now and groom for later. At corner, Chris McAlister is already gone and Samari Rolle is likely next. They have signed Dominique Foxworth but need additional help at CB.

Unfortunately for Baltimore, the top ILBs are off the board. Any other ILB at this point would be a reach. It's too bad that both Malcolm Jenkins and Vontae Davis are gone as well. However, much better value exists at CB than ILB and one of the two positions MUST be addressed early. There were 3 CBs available under consideration, but one has questions about size, skills and physicality, one has outstanding althleticism but less experience, physicality and technique. The Ravens will go with the third guy of the group who lacks some size but has superior technique and is an absolute playmaker.

With the 26th pick of the 2009 CP Mock Draft, the Baltimore Ravens select Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-04-2009 01:07 PM

It's about time you broke away from all that FL college pussy to come make your pick.

DaKCMan AP 03-04-2009 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5554243)
It's about time you broke away from all that FL college pussy to come make your pick.

I wish I was in FL around college girls. I'm in California this week working the night shift. :grr:

The Franchise 03-04-2009 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 5554277)
I wish I was in FL around college girls. I'm in California this week working the night shift. :grr:

What the hell are you doing out here?

Mr. Flopnuts 03-04-2009 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5554405)
What the hell are you doing out here?

You're on the clock yo.

The Franchise 03-04-2009 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 5554449)
You're on the clock yo.

I was just about to post yo.

The Franchise 03-04-2009 02:07 PM

The Eagles got McNabb one offensive weapon earlier in Knowshown Moreno and they'll give him another one with their next pick. With the 27th pick in the 1st round the Philadelphia Eagles select:

Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State

The Eagles still need another offensive lineman but I didn't think that there was good value here. I also wanted to grab Sean Smith here to be Brian Dawkins replacement but I don't see them taking a CB/S tweener in the 1st round. Pettigrew will fill in nicely and add another target for McNabb as well as be nice blocker for Moreno and Westbrook. The LJ Smith era is over.....thank God.

DaKCMan AP 03-04-2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5554405)
What the hell are you doing out here?

We rent one of the labs at Berkeley for testing. It's a 24hr facility and this trip I'm stuck on nights. :cuss:

Mr. Flopnuts 03-04-2009 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5554461)
I was just about to post yo.

Word life yo.

BigChiefFan 03-04-2009 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5554482)
The Eagles got McNabb one offensive weapon earlier in Knowshown Moreno and they'll give him another one with their next pick. With the 27th pick in the 1st round the Philadelphia Eagles select:

Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State

The Eagles still need another offensive lineman but I didn't think that there was good value here. I also wanted to grab Sean Smith here to be Brian Dawkins replacement but I don't see them taking a CB/S tweener in the 1st round. Pettigrew will fill in nicely and add another target for McNabb as well as be nice blocker for Moreno and Westbrook. The LJ Smith era is over.....thank God.

Great value. Nice pick.

Direckshun 03-04-2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5554482)
The Eagles got McNabb one offensive weapon earlier in Knowshown Moreno and they'll give him another one with their next pick. With the 27th pick in the 1st round the Philadelphia Eagles select:

Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State

The Eagles still need another offensive lineman but I didn't think that there was good value here. I also wanted to grab Sean Smith here to be Brian Dawkins replacement but I don't see them taking a CB/S tweener in the 1st round. Pettigrew will fill in nicely and add another target for McNabb as well as be nice blocker for Moreno and Westbrook. The LJ Smith era is over.....thank God.

You should have just traded that 1st to the Chiefs for Tony G.

We'd have given him to you.

The Franchise 03-04-2009 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5554578)
You should have just traded that 1st to the Chiefs for Tony G.

We'd have given him to you.

Throw in Brian Waters and LJ and we have a deal!

Direckshun 03-04-2009 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5554588)
Throw in Brian Waters and LJ and we have a deal!

I think I'd pull the trigger on Tony G, LJ, and Waters for a 1st and a 5th.

Mecca 03-04-2009 04:55 PM

To me this is a perfect fit pick so I'm glad to see him last till here, with the release of Harrison the Colts replace him with another outside playmaker..

With the 28th pick the Indianapolis Colts select Percy Harvin, WR, Florida

OnTheWarpath15 03-04-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5554841)
To me this is a perfect fit pick so I'm glad to see him last till here, with the release of Harrison the Colts replace him with another outside playmaker..

With the 28th pick the Indianapolis Colts select Percy Harvin, WR, Florida

Saw that coming...

Good pick.

Direckshun 03-04-2009 05:11 PM

I elect to trade the New York Giants' 1st round pick to the Patriots for all three of their second round picks.

OTW, you're on the clock.

Mecca 03-04-2009 05:16 PM

You know the Patriots would never do that right?

OnTheWarpath15 03-04-2009 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5554889)
I elect to trade the New York Giants' 1st round pick to the Patriots for all three of their second round picks.

OTW, you're on the clock.

ROFL

Direckshun 03-04-2009 05:24 PM

Well... the Giants are up, and I'm none too pleased.

It's cliche to say this, but Harvin was my pick until Mecca showed me up. The Giants were waiting for the invention of sweatpants with a built-in gun holster, but apparently the economy has caused a depression in imagination, too, so I see no need to have Burress around. Harvin would have been a fantastic replacement.

The other remaining WRs make me nervous, too. Britt and Nicks? Too risky for a first round investment; I've got loads of picks I can gamble with later.

So I look to the defense. Sean Smith intrigues me, but spending 1sts on safeties two years in a row slows down any ambition I may have on taking a shot with him.

Linebacker is a position of need in this Draft for me, but nothing here thrills me. So I'm going another route.

The Giants are in an enviable position; they are just about 100% built on both lines. But why settle for great when you can be SUPER FANTASTIC.

The Giants are pretty much going to have to gamble on whoever it is they pick here, so why not go with the player with the highest ceiling?

With that in mind, they pick a player who will need a hell of a lot of coaching, who really couldn't land in a better situation than this franchise.

With the 29th pick in the NFL Draft, the New York Giants pick QB Chase Daniel, from the University of ....

Oh wait.

DE Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech.

Mecca 03-04-2009 05:26 PM

Even after they just signed Canty?

Direckshun 03-04-2009 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5554932)
Even after they just signed Canty?

Canty and Johnson are apples and oranges. Hell Canty can play inside.

Mecca 03-04-2009 05:30 PM

Still they have 3 other ends even if you don't count Canty.

Direckshun 03-04-2009 05:31 PM

They're not taking any chances on random season-ending injuries this year.

Zouk 03-04-2009 05:50 PM

I was going to pick Johnson for the Titans - I'm shocked he was picked. He's the guy that the pre-draft conventional wisdom police have ganged up on this year, but I was impressed when I saw him play on TV and I think he's going to blow up in the NFL.

I'm not sure how he gets on the field with Omenyiora, Tuck, Kiwanuka, and Canty all ahead of him on the depth chart but that's not our problem.

With Johnson and Harvin off the board, the Titans fall back to taking a hometown prospect for their position of greatest need:

DJ Moore, CB, Vanderbilt

He'll compete with 35 year old Nick Harper at CB, return kicks, and maybe play some offense too.

Mecca 03-04-2009 05:54 PM

The Titans shouldn't you be taking whoever the best WR is?

Zouk 03-04-2009 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5555016)
The Titans shouldn't you be taking whoever the best WR is?

No.

Mecca 03-04-2009 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zouk (Post 5555040)
No.

Well building a football team with no threats outside is always a good plan.

Zouk 03-04-2009 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5555043)
Well building a football team with no threats outside is always a good plan.

Since Jeff Fisher became coach in 1994 they have taken 1 WR in the 1st round (Kevin Dyson, 1998) and 1 WR in the 2nd round (Tyrone Calico, 2003).

Everyone cried for them to take a WR last year too. They then went 13-3 and got beat in the playoffs mostly because Chris Johnson got hurt.

They just signed Nate Washington to start opposite Justin Gage, and Lavelle Hawkins is a promising slot man - that's enough for a run-based team that likes to feature the tight end in the passing game. They might sign or draft 1 more but it's not nearly their biggest need.

Their biggest need by far is CB - where Harper will be 35 next September, and last year's #3 and #4 corners left in free agency, and then it's DE - where Vanden Bosch and Kearse are both on the wrong side of 30 and in the last year of their contract.

Mecca 03-04-2009 06:14 PM

Nate Washington a starter...The Titans are like the Chiefs use to be how depressing.

eazyb81 03-04-2009 06:17 PM

Arizona is in a nice position this year in that while they are not loaded at every position, they also don't have any glaring weaknesses. Resigning Warner today is a great move, and along with franchising Dansby, signals that the front office feels this team is capable of putting together another playoff run.

Arizona lost JJ Arrington early in free agency and Edgerrin James continues to demand an outright release because of his diminished role. Without those two we would basically place the season's hopes on Tim Hightower, a decent 5th round pick from last year. If it came to it, I am confident we could make James happy by making him the starter, but frankly I think it's clear he's lost a step.

So after analyzing our current roster and comparing that to how the draft is unfolding, I feel now is the time to make a move to solidify the RB position.

For the 31st pick of the draft, the NFC CHAMPION ("whoooooo" clap clap clap) Arizona Cardinals select.......LeSean "Shady" McCoy, RB, Pitt

I gave consideration to waiting until later to take someone like Shonn Green or Arian Foster, but having the chance to take a premium RB talent like McCoy with the 31st pick was too difficult to pass up.

McCoy is a versatile talent that be used in almost any set and his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield is what we feel separates him from the other top backs in this draft class.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out Edge.

Mecca 03-04-2009 06:21 PM

Speaking of RB's...I bet CJ Spiller is kicking himself in the ass for not coming out after all those shitty 40 times.

Direckshun 03-04-2009 06:42 PM

Is it time for Duke?

The Franchise 03-04-2009 06:51 PM

I predict Unger.

TWO CENTERS IN THE FIRST ROUND!!! !1!!!!!!! OH NOEZ!!1!1!1!!!

Sfeihc 03-04-2009 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5555145)
I predict Unger.

TWO CENTERS IN THE FIRST ROUND!!! !1!!!!!!! OH NOEZ!!1!1!1!!!

I know I broke one of the cardinal rules. I also knew that 3 of the next 10 teams may take Mack meaning I'd have to settle on Wood or Cadwell later in the draft. Harvin to me wasn't worth it, I'm glad OTW took away the V. Davis decision for me. So for the Vikes it came down to filling their hole at C or taking DJ Moore.

Direckshun 03-04-2009 07:07 PM

Hey P23...

You've got holes at power RB, TE, and LG.

Had that first pick never happened, would you have been open to what we "joked" about earlier?

LJ, Waters, Tony G, for your 1st and 5th.

milkman 03-04-2009 07:09 PM

I like that Shady draft move by the Cards.

Strengthens a weakness in their offense.

Michael Johnsont to the Giants is pretty questionable.

Direckshun 03-04-2009 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5555219)
Michael Johnsont to the Giants is pretty questionable.

I win the draft?

milkman 03-04-2009 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5555224)
I win the draft?

As long as your drafting against Matt Millen.

Direckshun 03-04-2009 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5555229)
As long as your drafting against Matt Millen.

Or against milkman circa 2008.

milkman 03-04-2009 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5555250)
Or against milkman circa 2008.

I picked Albert to play tackle.

Your refusal to acknowledge both that, and the fact that he played exceptionally well at LT for a kid that had hardly any time to learn the position before being put in the fire, so to speak, is pretty petty.

The Franchise 03-04-2009 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5555211)
Hey P23...

You've got holes at power RB, TE, and LG.

Had that first pick never happened, would you have been open to what we "joked" about earlier?

LJ, Waters, Tony G, for your 1st and 5th.

No.

Sfeihc 03-04-2009 08:20 PM

Okay everybody in the pool! MARCO!

Hootie 03-04-2009 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5554850)
Saw that coming...

Good pick.

Of course you did.

OnTheWarpath15 03-04-2009 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5555422)
Of course you did.

Please, great master of the Ritalin, tell us what YOU would have done.

Harvin to the Colts in that spot is about as easy a pick as will be made in this entire draft.

Hootie 03-04-2009 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 5555756)
Please, great master of the Ritalin, tell us what YOU would have done.

Harvin to the Colts in that spot is about as easy a pick as will be made in this entire draft.

I was just shocked you and Mecca agreed on something...that's all.

OnTheWarpath15 03-04-2009 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5555796)
I was just shocked you and Mecca agreed on something...that's all.

So, you can't come up with a better pick?

I'm shocked that you once again show your ass in this thread.

Hootie 03-04-2009 09:57 PM

I thought it was an excellent pick. I was just surprised to see you two agree, that's all.

Sam Hall 03-05-2009 12:30 AM

Surprised to see Clint Sintim and Josh Freeman still on the board.

Direckshun 03-05-2009 01:22 AM

I think this Draft's selection of players is pretty true to life, except that I suspect someone will have pulled the trigger on Freeman by now, and I'm willing to bet Duke Robinson goes way before Alex Mack.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-05-2009 07:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5555422)
Of course you did.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/g...xi/arigtfo.gif

Marco Polo 03-05-2009 08:33 AM

The Super Bowl Champion Pittsburgh Steelers are on the clock. They are needing to upgrade their offensive line and there are several options they could go.

That being said, the Pittsburgh Steelers select Eben Britton, T, Arizona.

The Detroit Lions are on the clock.<!-- / message --><!-- / Jeff Removed Sig -->

Sfeihc 03-05-2009 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 5556695)
I think this Draft's selection of players is pretty true to life, except that I suspect someone will have pulled the trigger on Freeman by now, and I'm willing to bet Duke Robinson goes way before Alex Mack.

I'll take that action.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-05-2009 12:31 PM

Duke Robinson most likely isn't even the #1 guard on a lot of team's boards, especially w/ Unger's versatility.

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2009 12:34 PM

Round 1 completed in 3 days.

I'll be posting this afternoon for the Lions and Pats. I have some business I need to attend to first.

chiefscafan 03-05-2009 12:42 PM

No offense otw

But you decided on only these gms in the mock this year and Hamas is making a mockery of this. At least I wouldhave taken it serrious oh well you made your choice. I can't wait to see what incredibly bad pick Hamas makes next.

The Franchise 03-05-2009 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5557614)
No offense otw

But you decided on only these gms in the mock this year and Hamas is making a mockery of this. At least I wouldhave taken it serrious oh well you made your choice. I can't wait to see what incredibly bad pick Hamas makes next.

STFU

Great Expectations 03-05-2009 01:03 PM

Is Hamas a NooB or does he just have no clue on the Draft?

Beenie Wells will not be the 1st RB off the board, Sanchez to the Cheifs?

kc rush 03-05-2009 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5557614)
No offense otw

But you decided on only these gms in the mock this year and Hamas is making a mockery of this. At least I wouldhave taken it serrious oh well you made your choice. I can't wait to see what incredibly bad pick Hamas makes next.

Can someone add "For Entertainment Purposes Only" to the header or something so we can stop with the bellyaching. :rolleyes:

Whether you like the pick or not, Hamas had a reason for his choice, one which other posters have backed up and understood (even if it isn't what they would have done in this situation). If you are this upset over things, maybe you and Hootie should create your own mocks.

The Franchise 03-05-2009 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kc rush (Post 5557704)
Can someone add "For Entertainment Purposes Only" to the header or something so we can stop with the bellyaching. :rolleyes:

Whether you like the pick or not, Hamas had a reason for his choice, one which other posters have backed up and understood (even if it isn't what they would have done in this situation). If you are this upset over things, maybe you and Hootie should create your own mocks.

This.

It's a ****ing mock draft.....get over it.

Hootie 03-05-2009 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefscafan (Post 5557614)
No offense otw

But you decided on only these gms in the mock this year and Hamas is making a mockery of this. At least I wouldhave taken it serrious oh well you made your choice. I can't wait to see what incredibly bad pick Hamas makes next.

4-3 defensive personnel

Hootie 03-05-2009 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5557714)
This.

It's a ****ing mock draft.....get over it.

It would be nice if it was realistic.

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2009 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5557786)
4-3 defensive personnel

I'll ask again, since you and others have dodged it every time I've asked:

Has anyone from the CHIEFS organization confirmed that we're going to a 3-4 defense?

So far, I've seen nothing but media speculation.

Ironically, that gives you a wide open door to bash the pick no matter who it is.

Convenient for you...

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2009 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5557787)
It would be nice if it was realistic.

Go do your own then, attention whore.

Otherwise, **** off.

Amazing how the people that aren't involved have a bigger issue with it that the people that are.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-05-2009 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Great Expectations (Post 5557681)
Beenie Wells will not be the 1st RB off the board

ok.

ChiefsCountry 03-05-2009 01:59 PM

Its not out of the question to see Sanchez taken at #3 if the Chiefs trade to say #10 the draft doesnt change.
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Hootie 03-05-2009 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5557866)
Its not out of the question to see Sanchez taken at #3 if the Chiefs trade to say #10 the draft doesnt change.
Posted via Mobile Device

Drafturbators claim trading down is impossible.

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2009 02:08 PM

The Lions were contemplating taking Britton with this pick, but they're not entirely sure that he's capable of becoming a franchise LT.

However, they are confident that the player they are about to take can, and will be. Some will see this as a bit of a reach, but they've had this player targeted for this slot, he's there, and he wouldn't be the next time they were on the clock.

The Detroit Lions select:

William Beatty, OT, Connecticut

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2009 02:12 PM

The Patriots are going to be abused here by some by going back-to-back LB's, especially after taking Mayo last year, but there's too much value in this pick to pass.

His versatility allows the Pats to move both he and Adalius Thomas around, as both are strong against the run and pass, and can both rush/blitz very effectively.

The New England Patriots select:

Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia

The Franchise 03-05-2009 02:19 PM

****ing Chiefs. I'm hoping that we can somehow get a 2nd round pick so that we can grab Sintim in the 2nd.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-05-2009 02:22 PM

This may be a bit of a reach, but the Rams feel this is an impact, franchise CB and he won't be around come round 3. Tye Hill and crew just haven't shown the ability to fill this role effectively.

The Rams select Darius Butler, CB, UConn

kstater 03-05-2009 02:24 PM

If Freeman drops to the Patriots at 34, I wouldn't be stunned to see NE take him.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-05-2009 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5557971)
If Freeman drops to the Patriots at 34, I wouldn't be stunned to see NE take him.

I almost flipped a ****ing coin between Butler and Freeman. St. Louis would actually be a pretty good destination for Josh IMO.

OnTheWarpath15 03-05-2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater (Post 5557971)
If Freeman drops to the Patriots at 34, I wouldn't be stunned to see NE take him.

I'd be absolutely stunned.

They are pretty damn happy with O'Connell from everything I've read, and are looking to add a veteran for the #3 spot.


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