I am not mad at this loss. In fact, I am glad we got our reality check before the big dance. This will be a good motivation for us to fix things up heading into the NCAA tournament.

And an entire week before they play their next game. Should be a great time for reflection.

I would have thought the Tech games was a "reality check".

So...Baylor starts with a "B" no?


:Poke:

Bring on American East champs...Binghamton.

If there's a bright side to performances like these down the stretch....

Collins is more likely to return next year...

LMAO

Nice, but I thought National Championships started with an "N"? :D

I was thinking the TT game would have been that. I just think this team team is too young and inconsistant to go more than a couple rounds in this years tourney. I'd be glad to be wrong.

True, when he should of just started driving and kicking out... But no, just kept shooting bricks...

Friggin' young teams can drive you crazy! :cuss:

Well, we know they "can" play with the best of 'em....now they have to go out and prove it. A sweet sixteen appearance, as I've said all along, would be have been a good season for this team. They are going to have to turn things around if they are gonna make that, at this point. Guess we'll see what they are made of.

Kinda my take as well. I thought that Tech game would've woke 'em up. OTOH, Baylor was/is playing for their spot in the tourney--for them their tourney began today.

Oh well. I'm trying not to get too upset about it. KU has won their fair share conference titles, and have won the conference tourney the last few times as well. Time for someone else to hang a banner.

Would not surprise me nor would I be overly pissed...unless that means a #5 seed for MU

I didnt get to see it (bad timing for us west coasters).....which is probably better anyways.

But...if I saw the stats correctly, Aldrich only shot the ball 5 times???? I'm sorry, but that's just unacceptable. I dont care how many double-teams he's facing. You got to get that kid the ball.

I hate to bitch about self...he's obviously done a hell of a job this year coaching. But I dont like seeing Aldrich out at the top of the key for half of an offensive set...setting screens....it cuts down on his touches significantly.

glad i missed it

How the hell is Nebraska going to win the title?

Doesnt help when Collins is laying bricks all day either... Half of his touches NEEDED to go inside through Aldrich.....

"N"it maybe? :shrug:

This wasn't Bills best showing today. The substitution patterns left something to be desired, coupled with the fact that Sherron was off, and Cole didn't get nearly enough touches. That said, I predicted long ago that if Morningstar and Reed played significant minutes, this team wasn't going far. I really hate being this right about that.

At the end of the day, (lol) this team is still young and dumb, and has achieved at a level that was unexpected this year. From here on out, it's all on the backs of Collins and Aldrich. We sink or swim according to their play.

One of the local A-B reps called Bob Dole Monday and invited Bob Dole to happy hour with him and the regional Monster rep. Bob Dole showed up in a Mizzou shirt only to find that the Monster rep was a big Jayhawk fan who proceeded to flip Bob Dole merciless shit all evening.

Someone is getting a phone call in a couple of hours.

Young and dumb, it is what it is. We have played crappy the last 3 weeks, it's wake up time ! :eek:

Collins isn't a projected 1st round pick...not at his size. He'd be stupid to leave.

Wow.

TTech last night, GTech beat Clemson today (but, Clemson is the King of Collapse), and this turd.

I didn't see it, but the back-to-back losses bugs me a little... had they not lost to Tech, I would have been over this game as fast as I was over the Tech game last week.... guess you just expect a team to rebound.

Oh well, plenty of rest before next week, huh?

I would have low expectations for the tournament if I were a KU fan. They're a young team and it's been a long season.

Well its like this.

When Collins and Aldrich are playing well, the Jayhawks can beat anyone in the country.

When they're not playing well, it only takes team with one hot shooter to take them down. Pretty much the way its been all season.

They really have only gotten their asses handed to them twice. UA and MSU. I am not counting the debauchery at TTU because that was just a ****ing fluke from hell and never should have happened. For what ever reason the Jayhawks SUCK in Lubbock.

Well, yeah. Past that rough arrogant asshole exterior, there's a brain that tells us there's as good of a chance of losing in the first round as there is making it to the EE. ;)

I think they're tired after a long season. That doesn't apply to Collins and Aldrich, but that team has a lot of newcomers. The loses to Texas Tech and Baylor make no sense.

Posnanski wrote about it being a reality check. If it is, than that's pretty bad for the players to think they can walk in and roll somebody. Especially after the Tech game.

So what do you guys think...a #3 seed?

I think a #3 seed is probably right, maybe still #2. This might actually be a good thing for KU. They'll go into the NCAA with a chip on their shoulder, get a couple days extra rest. Oklahoma will probably win the tourney in OKC anyway.

Just hope KU doesn't draw any teams with "B" in the title once the tourney begins.
Bradley, Bucknell, Baylor, etc...

thats not updated, it still shows KU as the winner of the Big 12

I don't see any way that KU is a 2 seed.

I think KU is 50/50 3 or 4 depending on how some other teams do around the country.

I'd say there's a pretty good chance at a 3. There's no shot at anything higher, and Clemson's loss helped Kansas' chances of not taking a serious fall (and they probably wouldn't anyway).

At this point it might be good if they to a 4.... that should get their attention. I've read a few quotes from players about "how people doubted us all season", and as far as the tournament goes, a 4 seed would put them back at where they started in November. Not that it should be considered a disappointment to the fans, but maybe they'll see it that way and kick it up a notch.

I know...I was just providing a reference and showing why I think KU would drop to #3.

as a mizzou fan i'm happy to see you fall in the BXII tourney. although come time for the big dance, i'll be cheering for all big xii teams. this kansas team is going to be really good for the next few years, if this year was any indication. you all should be right back in the hunt for a national title, probably next year. i just hope MU can keep up with the jones's.

Question: Do you think Bill Self is beyond intentionally losing this game?

1. Did you notice that he never got red-face angry like he did at Tech and Missouri? He never seemed anxious.

2. Aldrich and Collins are not in the best physical shape. Both are just an ankle tweak from being done for the year.

3. Collins final attempt for the 3pt shot Seemed suspiciously (perhaps purposefully) underdone. I've never seem him seen try to make that shot with so little energy and momentum. It seemed like something was wrong even before he released the ball.

Did Bill dump this game to bide some time? just throwing that on the table

Whatever it is that's crazier than aluminum foil hats, that's this idea.

I think bill would rather go deep into the dance than deep into the conference tourney

DAMN!

I have been on a business trip all week... flight lands, check the score, and we LOST?

Bummer :(

Oh well, RCJGKU :KU:

As for seeds, I see a 4 or maybe even a 5, I don't realistically see a 3, this coupled with the Tech loss really hurts IMO....as far as Self intentionally losing a game, ROFL ROFL, he's too much of a competitor...as far as maybe the young ones are wearing out, there may be some truth to that, and this will give them a breather...whatever, bring on the competition, I'm already impressed with their season, much higher than I expected.

Self will have them ready come next week.
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Roy used to say openly that he didn't care about this tourney. He said he'd rather his players get the rest. And he didn't win it much either.

Pretty easy to say stuff like that when you lose it.

lol

That is not happening at all, OU is a 2 now, maybe a 3. KU, my guess is a 4, IMHO, we should be.

KU shouldn't be 2 seeds below that OU team, they should be in the same spot. But you may end up being right.

They shouldn't but they have been a media darling for some time now.

Don't really get all the hype myself. Really their only good win is Purdue....

I don't know, because BLAKE GRIFFEN IS TEH BEST EVA !!!

Bye Bye Voskuil

ROFL

ROFL really

He doesn't seem to play much defense for being the "best eva," but I guess people don't pay attention to that.

Surely you picked up my sarcasm on that.

I don't think BG is the best ever, but judging by the media attention he's getting that's the way it seems. And judging by their relative collapse and their slight slide, it seems like the media thinks he can win the NC by himself.

I did, but I needed to make my criticism anyway.

Understood.

Well, that's a new one.

Holy crap, I can now officially state, I have heard it all.ROFL

Yeah, I'm still ROFL over that post.


But who knows? Self is the Sporting News and AP Big 12 Coach of the Year? :shrug:

He'll have to do better than 59% from the FT line to be the best evah. Only Wilt got away with that.

Good Lord. You are not a KU fan, right?

:shake::rolleyes:ROFL