I'd like us to lock him up for more years.

But there's no reason to do this before the draft. Perhaps just a small hit, but it would hurt our trade position.

The shit hit the fan.

Whats the odds of Belicheat finding two gems at QB with lower draft picks...Do you guys think Cassell is good because he is good or he is good because he played behind one of the best lines and smartest coaches in football.

I watched him some last year, and I also watched alot of Chiefs football.... I thought with the proper line that Thigpen would have been a really good QB.

Seems like a lot of coin for basically a backup QB

YEAH THAT'S RIGHT I WAS FIRST

Mecca,

I would like to thank you for the comedy you've inadvertently given me through the power of tags.

Sincerely,
IJH

haha

Smart coach, maybe, but their line was abysmal last year.

But compare it to the Chiefs or the Raiders line

Conversations I've had with NE fans indicate they weren't any better than KC's line. I haven't had any discussions regarding Oakland's.

It's the least I can do, it's a good thing nothing bothers me.

So far NO CONFIRMATION from the Chiefs....according to 610

Mike Lombardi from NFLN is the one saying it's true...

When is NFLN wrong? never

are you on any interesting medication?

Why did he get an extension and he has yet to even take a snap?

I don't think the Patriots line was much better than our. It's better coaching, scheme and skill players that made the difference.

I'm not sure what this question has to do with the other.

Pioli and Cassel had to talk this out so that Cassel understands when we draft Sanchez, it is just to hold him hostage until we get draft picks. You dont want your real QB to get pissed off because he thinks your drafting a new QB. Anyone understand?

I don't get the timing of this....makes zero sense unless a trade partner wanted a deal in place. Does that happen?

I bet he would do just as well as Cassell did if he would have been a Patriot last yr Bigtime risky move on a backup QB, may pan out for you but it's still a bigtime risk.

Betcha he wouldn't, but it's really impossible to say.

This next half hour is going to be brutally long.

Exactly, forget about whether you like Cassel or not. This is about the terrible timing of the information leak.

why risk it, stupid as hell.

Yup.... Raiders have to go WR

Well... I'd rather pay him a guaranteed $36 for 6 years if he is a bust than pay him $14.5 this year and watch him bolt to Washington for $10/10 yrs next year if he plays like he did last year. You lose 'only' $22m in the mix which can be spread out over the next few years against the cap or the Chiefs strike gold at a reasonable starting qb price.

I don't put much faith in contracts, if a QB is good enough, he will and can get a contract rewritten whenever he chooses, it ain't right but it is true

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Again fair - but what we lack in talent and wins we make up for in salary cap. At least we are using it to try to lock up a qb those in power believe in for the long run as opposed to signing demorrio williams.

lets just hope the Donks are forced to have a QB competition of Orten vs Chris Simms..
Them Donks are talking crap about Cassell on that cesspool called the mange

I will give you this, if he is for real and performs similar to the way he did for the Cheatriots, you got a steal...

He's not worth that much, imo. We'll now see if he can really play with the same supporting players as the Pats gave him.

I am not saying he is not good, I just want to see him play with the players the likes of those the Chiefs and the Raiders have fielded recently.

I also will say Jamarcus will have to step up his game bigtime this year if we can snag a prime time WR

That is a lot of guaranteed dollars for someone who projects out to being pretty average.

Yep. Any leverage we stood to gain by faking interest in Sanchez is now gone.

Freaking Donks are trying to trade Sheffler for a 1st round pick WTF?

Contradicting a report from Mike Lombardi of NFL Network and National Football Post, Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel has not signed a six-year contract extension that includes $36 million in guaranteed money, according to Peter King of SI.com.

King reports that two NFL sources say “there’s no truth,” to Lombardi’s report with one source asserting that “no substantive talks,” have taken place between Kansas City team officials and Cassel’s agent.

King had previously reported at the NFL owners meeting that Cassel’s representative, David Dunn, was miffed that the Chiefs hadn’t taken action to modify Cassel’s deal.

Cassel is currently assigned a one-year, $14.65 million franchise tender.

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/...al-for-cassel/

Good to know this is done, I was afraid we would havr to pay him 14 this year and franchise him next year for slightly more, 6 year 36 is better than 2 year 29 million.

Maybe we're trading CASSEL. That would be one reason to announce a contract prior to the draft.

They were saying $36M in GUARANTEES. I gotta think that's impossible.

No one told them he's Tony Scheffler when Winslow is going for a 2, that **** ain't going for no 1st.

the leak could have been unintended. Just because it leaked, doesn't mean they wanted it to leak.

or they DID want it to leak as some other kind of smokescreen.

or, it's simply false.

yeah, I hadn't read the thread until after my post.

This has been the longest 15 minutes in history. And there's 15 more to go. And then 10 more after that.

http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_12223334

Ahhhh, my brain hurts.

I meant to write without the same supporting players as the Pats. Just fyi.

if true i have called this getting out today for a month

The $36M in guarantees is a mistake. There's no way he got that much.

I'm taking the third choice. With Peter King actively denying and ESPN refusing to confirm it, I think it's BS.

$36 million over 6 years, with some percent guaranteed, would be fine.

right on said jeebus

so they kept things locked up tighter than a tick's ass until now? :spock:

yeah, me too. His source that said no substantive discussions had even happened probably gives it away.

Yeah but NFLN is reporting it. They never hardly get anything wrong

I'm at a kids birthday. Please kill me.
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Just give me directions to your location.

I agree. Perfectly acceptable.

$36M guaranteed isn't. But I don't see any way that's what he gets.

THIS

I'm sure if you did some digging, you could find several instances of them being wrong. It's the nature of the business.

No Deal for Cassel?
Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 25, 2009, 3:33 p.m.

Contradicting a report from Mike Lombardi of NFL Network and National Football Post, Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Matt Cassel has not signed a six-year contract extension that includes $36 million in guaranteed money, according to Peter King of SI.com.

King reports that two NFL sources say “there’s no truth,” to Lombardi’s report with one source asserting that “no substantive talks,” have taken place between Kansas City team officials and Cassel’s agent.

King had previously reported at the NFL owners meeting that Cassel’s representative, David Dunn, was miffed that the Chiefs hadn’t taken action to modify Cassel’s deal.

Cassel is currently assigned a one-year, $14.65 million franchise tender.

UPDATE: Tom Curran of NBCSports.com just got a text message from Matt Cassel that shoots down Mike Lombardi’s report on the National Football Post and NFL Network.

Cassel’s text message reads: “Thank you, but I haven’t signed a deal. I don’t know where they are getting their info.”

Kind of feel a bit disappointed that the deal was offered for that much. Meaning he still could sign for that much or even more.

From Cassel himself? I would think that pretty much kills the speculation.

Who says he was offered that much?

Don't get down, there's no way we give Cassel $36M guaranteed.

I thought it had said he didn't sign the offer yet.

NFLN is still scrolling that info. Maybe that contract wasn't supposed to get out until after they traded

This is just ****ing stupid. Period. The guy played one mother****ing year.

I think the report is BS.

Just go to your moms.
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How much in guarantees are you guys thinking he should get? He already has 1 year, 14.5 mill guaranteed. It is going to take quite a bit to secure him for five more years.

And yet you damn near jerk Sanchez's penis off. And he played only one year in college, NO NFL EXPERIENCE AT ALL!

Pioli was named Exec of the Year from national media in 2001, 2003, 2004 & 2007 seasons. Now, you don't think for one minute Pioli would come to KC and bring a quarterback bust with him, did you.

I'm quite the critic when it comes to national sports journalists. In fact, in this town, sports writers ought to impart on information and show just how significant Scott Pioli is. KC Star is seriously missing out on the historical background of Pioli's career. There's a wealth of information with all the endings written ===========oh chit... Nascar.... of the drivers crashed & just went airborne.... be back

I would bet he gets somewhere in the realm of $26M in guarantees rather than $36M.

You like 'em older, eh?

Well, I guess even my 70+ year old mom needs some too.

WHatcha got Mecca. That is a good old fashioned calling out. Rep to new guy.

Cassel better be top 5 year in and out and lead this team to multiple superbowls, otherwise he is no better than a college QB with NO NFL EXPERIENCE AT ALL!

That's a little reeruned.


I'll be good if he's simply better than Sanchez.

Let's be realistic here. Multiple Super Bowls? How many QB's in history have done that?

Come on man. Snap out of it.

Pollard wants 10%

Need to chill just a little bit.

Will it be disappointing if Sanchez becomes an All-Pro and Cassel doesn't? **** yes.

But we have to play the cards we've been dealt by management and stop worrying about other shit. I'd say that if Cassel can be a top-10 QB and plays for this team for the next 10 years, we would have an excellent chance of achieving all of our goals as a team.

You'd think this would be all over the KC Star website.

You are being ridiculous. :rolleyes:

So what I'm guessing by all of this is:

1) You think Sanchez will lead the Jets to multiple Super Bowls.
2) A player that leads their team to one SB is no different than a college QB?

There are some days I think you have a good head on your shoulders, today isn't one of them.

So, what if the Chiefs had drafted Sanchez and given him 40 mil in guaranteed money?