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DeezNutz 02-15-2010 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6535534)
Actually Pioli drafted Chad Pennington in the first round.

The Assistant Director of Player Personnel is a powerful position...in NE.

RustShack 02-15-2010 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535539)
Pioli didnt work for the Jets in 2000.

Not for the season, but he did for the draft and before it.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6535545)
The Assistant Director of Player Personnel is a powerful position...in NE.

From everything I read he played in a part in trading for Welker and Moss.

RustShack 02-15-2010 11:36 PM

I also like how some people are treating Cassel as a rookie. If he was a project that needed time there is no reason not to draft the younger and far more talented project that needs time.

Saccopoo 02-15-2010 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535537)
I really wish the Aids Tree would hit you full force, you make CoMo and Hootie look like geniuses.

You are the reerun claiming that Sanchez is the ultimate QBOTF Franchise guy after his complete shit bag of a season.

Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl.

Rex Grossman got to a Super Bowl.

Because they went deep into the playoffs, are they the ultimate franchise type quarterback? Because you are using that sole qualifier for Sanchez. A guy with a 63 rating and a whopping 12 TDs.

DeezNutz 02-15-2010 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6535554)
From everything I read he played in a part in trading for Welker and Moss.

Yeah, I was speaking only about the Pennington acquisition. I didn't think they overlapped b/c Pioli was off to NE in 2000.

I'm not 100 percent on this. Could be wrong.

RustShack 02-15-2010 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 6535554)
From everything I read he played in a part in trading for Welker and Moss.

The Pioli haters like to pretend the GM does everything without the help of the guys he hired to do that stuff.

DeezNutz 02-15-2010 11:41 PM

From my perspective, the "Pioli haters" want to see some evidence that the mother****er can put together a string of strong moves on his own.

He simply couldn't have had a worse '09. Now let's see him rebound.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 11:41 PM

Meh even if he drafted Pennington it's not much to write home about. I hope this source is right though this will draw a clear distinction between Pioli and Peterson.

Titty Meat 02-15-2010 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6535568)
From my perspective, the "Pioli haters" want to see some evidence that the mother****er can put together a string of strong moves on his own.

He simply couldn't have had a worse '09. Now let's see him rebound.

This. Pioli looks to be off to a good start by hiring Crennel & Weis, I don't remember the last time the Chiefs didn't have cordinators who were "Yes Sir" guys.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-16-2010 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 6534514)
you can't use pickle again you ****ing idiot

Yeah Dante, you ****in' Dill-hole. :)

Ralphy Boy 02-16-2010 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535012)
If I was Clark Hunt I would have fired Pioli the second after he made that trade, or just slapped the shit out of him the moment he propsed it.

There was nothing wrong with the trade, it was the contract that pissed me off.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535051)
Its funny how everybody forgets about his days in New England when he had that talent, and still wasn't that good.

Wasn't that good? 10 & 5 as a starter with a 63.4% completion %, 3,693 yards passing, 21 TD to 11 INT and a 89.4 QB rating is pretty good for a guy that NEVER started a game in the NFL or College until that season.


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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6535077)
The numbers support the claims.

Cassel, at best, is average.

Uh, ok.
Cassel's first 2 years starting: AVG QB Rating 79.6, 6,617 yards, 37 TD's, 27 INT's.
Favre's first 2 years starting: AVG QB Rating 78.8, 6,503 yards, 37 TD's, 37 INT's.

Not saying he's Favre, but "numbers" don't support your opinion.

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535103)
It wasn't that great of a season. It was a bunch of screen passes to Welker and Moss to break for YAC. He was average as best that year, not to mention he sucked even worst this year when he had the better OL, better running game and better WRs.

Better OL? Better WR's? WTF are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 6535498)
I'm sure he will, but he's playing behind one of, if not the, best offensive lines in the NFL and had the #1 rated defense to cover his ass. But yet, he threw for 500 yards less than Cassel and had four less touchdowns, four more interceptions and a substantially lower quarterback rating. Cassel played behind the worst offensive line in football, had no defense to rely on, and his receivers led the league in drops. But he still had a better year than Sanchez, and people around here are ready to tar and feather Matt. You put Sanchez on this Chiefs team and think about what his stats would have looked like. If he could only throw for 2400 yards and a 63 QB rating on that Jets team, how bad would it have been here? But the vast majority of this board is more than happy to crucify Cassel.

Nice work.

Mecca 02-16-2010 01:26 AM

To compare a 22 year old rookie to a 27 year old player is dipshittery at it's finest.

And to this point, Pioli is nothing more than Dayton Moore, a big name candidate who came from a winning organization that has shown exactly nothing to date.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-16-2010 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6534686)
if you want clausen then just ****ing draft him, you dip shits....

or...or...we could wait and see if the QB we want drops 25 ****ing picks and then say "damn...oh well" when someone sane takes him in front of us...

we've already lost one QB because of Cassel...why not pass on the 2nd....

excuse me while i reach through my asshole to pull my penis back out through my ass in a dramatic rendering of how this franchise makes decisions when it comes to the most important player on the field...

Do you own an IHOP? You should. Your ability to flip-flop could elevate the humble pancake to Spago-like artistry.

The Bad Guy 02-16-2010 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535397)
Yes it does, it proves stats don't mean jack shit when it comes to a QB.

This might be the biggest bullshit post ever on here.

I know Cassel sends you into a spastic trance that is hard to break out of, but good lord almighty.

Stats mean nothing when it comes to a QB? How do you even type such bullshit?

It shows me, that you will write anything just to defend Sanchez.

DeezNutz 02-16-2010 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Ralphy Boy (Post 6535674)
Uh, ok.
Cassel's first 2 years starting: AVG QB Rating 79.6, 6,617 yards, 37 TD's, 27 INT's.
Favre's first 2 years starting: AVG QB Rating 78.8, 6,503 yards, 37 TD's, 37 INT's.

Try taking a more nuanced look at those numbers. What's his completion percentage beyond 10 yards, for example?

Yeah, prior to the trade we heard all about how Cassel compares favorably to Favre, Elway, Montana, the computerized amalgamation of all three, etc.

And guess what? Cassel is still average, at best. He's not the answer.

If he weren't, he'd still be in NE, an organization that has shown a penchant to be calculating and walk when it comes to vet. players. Can you imagine the motherload that Brady would have brought in a trade? And why not do that, if you have a younger, more athletic QB ready to come in and take control?

Inspector 02-16-2010 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 6534492)
We should hire Mark Vlassic to be his QB coach.

That wouldn't be kosher.

ForeverChiefs58 02-16-2010 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6535750)
He's not the answer.


If he's not the answer, then what is the question?

DeezNutz 02-16-2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverChiefs58 (Post 6535845)
If he's not the answer, then what is the question?

Which players will help us win a SB?

The only question that matters.

ChiefsCountry 02-16-2010 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6535724)
This might be the biggest bullshit post ever on here.I know Cassel sends you into a spastic trance that is hard to break out of, but good lord almighty.Stats mean nothing when it comes to a QB? How do you even type such bullshit?It shows me, that you will write anything just to defend Sanchez.

The only stat that I care about is winning Super Bowls and playoff games. Its the only one that matters.
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The Bad Guy 02-16-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6536259)
The only stat that I care about is winning Super Bowls and playoff games. Its the only one that matters.
Posted via Mobile Device

And QB's, unless they are surrounded by a super human defense, do not win Super Bowls with garbage stats.

Tango&Cash 02-16-2010 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6535478)
Must suck to be that QB who has beaten Peyton Manning and Tom Brady. Has 2 playoff wins and played his best game in the biggest game of his NFL career. Must suck be a nOOb QB who didn't shit himself in the playoffs either. Must suck to be the Jets who can build for the next 15 years around Sanchez.

You mean the game where the Colts pulled Manning because they had nothing to play for? LMAO

Extra Point 02-16-2010 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LaChapelle (Post 6534494)
I'd rather have Clausen at #5
than Quin with a 2

Quinn gets you a #2 twice

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-16-2010 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tango&Cash (Post 6536530)
You mean the game where the Colts pulled Manning because they had nothing to play for? LMAO

Or perhaps they feared the Great Chokey-Chokey?

The Bad Guy 02-16-2010 03:12 PM

Is the hardon for Sanchez that huge that Chiefscountry has to say he beat Peyton Manning when Peyton left the game with a lead in the 3rd quarter?

You really used to be a much better poster than this.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-16-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6536988)
Is the hardon for Sanchez that huge that Chiefscountry has to say he beat Peyton Manning when Peyton left the game with a lead in the 3rd quarter?

You really used to be a much better poster than this.

Choke-a-liscious, baby!

bevischief 02-16-2010 05:57 PM

I have some ocean front property for sale in western Ks....

ForeverChiefs58 02-16-2010 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 6537556)
I have some ocean front property for sale in western Ks....

how much you want for it?

:p


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