You're absolutely right.

How about for a team with a lower payroll than the Royals?

I think that's an unfortunate coincidence. I'm sure the drafturbators are going to laugh at me for posting that.

So Clay what rumors are you guys hearing are they actually interested in any players or are they going to pick from the bargain bin?

Ben Watson here we come.

NE re-signed Stephen Neal, so one of our "targets" is off the market.

Pioli probably choked on his pizza when he saw that.

They had interest in Peppers, Rolle, Dansby and Boldin. And they still have interest in other free agents. I don't think for one second they don't want to spend.

In all honesty those Dansby and Rolle contracts aren't even out of line.

Just like they had interest in Haynesworth last year.

All bullshit.

That, or they are even worse at their job than we think.

All these guys they've supposedly been interest in, and not one even visited, much less signed.

They are outrageous considering the level of the players.

Lets see...

Backup QB 60 mill....2 defenders 80 hrm...

Thanks

Is there any good F.A.'s left, that could help this team?

No, we're ****ed.

Who did Miami cut? Gibril Wilson?

There's one.

Oh boy another Mike Brown with a higher cost

I'd rather not see Wilson with us.

I just realized something. Mike Brown is gone, right?

That is cause for celebration right there.

No big names in KC so far
 

Peppers GONE, Boldin GONE, Dansby GONE, Rolle GONE, Burleson GONE, etc etc etc. I see we are going to be real "active" again in 2010 signing more bums who should be flipping burgers. :banghead:

There was some talk about Joey Porter here. He is officially a FA, but I'm sure Parcells has already told his son no.
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Randy Thomas anyone? bit of a stop gap being 33 but he used to be one of the better guards in the league... How was he last year?

i basically said this same thing in another thread last night. thanks. someone gets it

FA to this club is someone they can pick up for free ....

The Colts signed Alleman according to my NFL Sprint app. Ryan Lilja part II?

Holy shit. Dunta robinsons contract was 6 year 57 mil with 25 guaranteed. Holy shit. I understand that we needed to overpay for some of these free agents, but what can we do when they're being overpaid by the good teams?
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Seriously. I heard this morning that Peppers' deal was actually 92 million vs. the 75 that was reported yesterday. 42 million guaranteed in the first 3 years.

That's why I can't understand why people are mad about us not being "active" this year. What the hell did they expect us to do? I understand that people are mad about last offseason and rightfully so, but pioli can't be blamed for this one(so far)
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I haven't been upset to this point. I'm frustrated as a mother****er but regardless of how far we're below the cap I don't want to see this team throw money away. Keep it for when it counts.

At the same point, there are some guys they should be working deals with already. Otogwe is at the top of that list. That deal should've already been done.

I don't think anyone is upset they didn't pursue the elite tier guys, but it's frustrating to know that the Rams are BEGGING someone to steal Otogwe, and he's visiting Seattle. Not us.

Kevin Walter?

Nope.

Ryan Clark?

Nope.

Chester Pitts?

Nope.

We're too busy re-signing our own scrubs.

I agree whole heartedly. Walter was the real stinger to me. We should've found a way to get that done. Otogwe should've already been done. The second Pioli realized the bidding was too high on the top tier guys he should've been on the phone with Otogwe's agent.

Otogwe and clark please.
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with no movement on otogwe could that spell BERRY?

Not ready to flip shit about this...
There wasn't much help to begin with in Free Agency this year and I'm fine with the team not overpaying to bring someone in.

Most of these guys are either 30 or approaching 30 and there will be better, cheaper options available in the Draft.

Would Kevin Walter be nice? Sure... But Golden Tate would be better.
Iupati, Ducasse, Berry, Nate Allen, Chad Jones...All look like better options than aging vets who, in some cases, are going to cost you big coin.

I'm okay with it. Would like to see them at least make a run at Atogwe though.

You act as if those guys will be there when we draft.

I know there is no cap this year, but if it were equivalent to the cap last year, are we $80~million under the cap right now? Our pay roll is just over $40 million and the cap was $124 million (Something like that) last year.

What the **** are they saving their money on, a controlling share of the Patriots or something?

There's no sense throwing ungodly amounts of money to guys because they're the only ones available. I'm glad they didn't pursue Peppers for 90 million. I'm glad they didn't go after Dansby since he's now making more than Ray Lewis amongst others equally high profile ILB's.

Kevin Walters is a guy we should've went after and been willing "overpay" a little bit. Otogwe is another guy we need to get in here and get signed.

Honestly though, at this point the only way they're really going to piss me the **** off is if they let Chris Chambers slip away. I don't care what he costs, he's proven his value to us.

Haley would be looking like a dip**** over that 22 guys off the street bullshit if it wasn't for Chris ****ing Chambers. GET THE MAN SIGNED. TODAY!

I too would be pissed if he gets away for a reasonable amount. I would pay him whatever it takes to be here for the next two and maybe three years. He worked his ass off to get open, fought for the ball in the air, came back to MC when the play broke down, adjusted beautifully to horribly underthrown balls, blocked well and allowed Charles to take it the distance on runs to his side and showed consistent hands and was Cassels only reliable target.

If we let his get away, a little more of the homer in me will die

He's 31-32 years old. WR's play into their mid to upper 30's all the time. He's proven his value to OUR organization. I'd pay him big money if that's what it took. He's one of the very few assets this team has. 4 million a year? 5 million a year? Fine. He's earned it AFAIC.

with ya here buddy
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Exactly. The time to break the bank is when you just went 8-8 and are a couple players from 11-5. Build the core 1st then go spend the $.

We'll have a chance at quite a few of those players.
We have a shot at Berry...
The 2nd Round will give us an option to draft an Arrelious Benn, Marshawn Gilyard, Chad Jones or Nate Allen.

I wouldn't be surprised at all to see us come away with two of them.
If we don't...it won't be because the opportunity wasn't there.

So, I guess rolle is gone. What is more important is his pay now and how that could affect a contract with Berry if the Chiefs draft him.

From Schefter's twitter.

His contract won't have anything to do with Eric Berry's. It's all slotting in the draft.

Berry will be getting paid almost double what the highest paid safety in the NFL makes if we pick him at 5.

I dont care about it and it wouldnt hold me back, but I thought I would put that out there.

Osgood to Jacksonville.

****ing cheap ass Hunts!!!!!!!

Dumbass.

ROFL

Kerry Rhodes traded to Arizona for a 4th in 2010 and a 7th in 2011.

That's an excellent move.

Just stop please.

Stop what?

Posting information?

About good deals yes. Lets pretend like the Chiefs are getting better this is depressing.

Rex couldnt get rid of Rhodes fast enough and he runs a similar defense to ours scheme wise. I cant see how that could have helped us much.

He is also a FS iirc and that would be another anti Berry move, no?

I wonder what they will do with Page when he returns from injury and we draft Berry, SS?

Berry can play SS if they want him to. In fact not only can he play 5 positions on defense, but he has played 5 positions on defense. Versatility is key.

I thought this was an interesting tidbit from Michael Lombardi

LMAO And what? We should hold our breath for us to make a move next year? That must be Pioli's excuse.

If they draft right and a couple-three kids from the 2009 class pan out, 2011 might be a good year to spend in FA for the Chiefs.

I agree. But I don't see what would make me want to believe that we will spend much money in 2011, if we have a 2011 season. Lets hope.

Chiefs Showing "Serious" Interest In NT Shaun Smith
by Joel Thorman on Mar 6, 2010 9:14 PM CST


According to a league source, the Kansas City Chiefs are showing "serious" interest in free agent Shaun Smith, the 28 year old defensive tackle most recently of the Bengals.

Smith comes with experience in the 3-4 defense and a familiarity with a couple of key members of the Chiefs.

In 2003, Bill Parcells signed him as an undrafted free agent. He lasted a year in Dallas crossing paths with Todd Haley for just a short period of time. In 2007, he was signed by the Cleveland Browns who were coached at the time by -- you guessed it -- Chiefs defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel.

We're told the interest in Smith is due in large part to the presence of Crennel. The Chiefs worked Smith out back in October without signing him to a contract.

Smith is listed at 6'2" and over 320 pounds, which is good size for a 3-4 nose tackle.

Our source believes a deal is on the horizon but we've yet to confirm. Smith's agent had not responded to our email request as of this posting.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3...us-interest-in

Chiefs Showing "Serious" Interest In NT Shaun Smith
by Joel Thorman on Mar 6, 2010

According to a league source, the Kansas City Chiefs are showing "serious" interest in free agent Shaun Smith, the 28 year old defensive tackle most recently of the Bengals.

Smith comes with experience in the 3-4 defense and a familiarity with a couple of key members of the Chiefs.

In 2003, Bill Parcells signed him as an undrafted free agent. He lasted a year in Dallas crossing paths with Todd Haley for just a short period of time. In 2007, he was signed by the Cleveland Browns who were coached at the time by -- you guessed it -- Chiefs defensive coordinator Romeo Crennel.

We're told the interest in Smith is due in large part to the presence of Crennel. The Chiefs worked Smith out back in October without signing him to a contract.

Smith is listed at 6'2" and over 320 pounds, which is good size for a 3-4 nose tackle.

Our source believes a deal is on the horizon but we've yet to confirm. Smith's agent had not responded to our email request as of this posting.

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2010/3...us-interest-in

This. Patience people.

There are definitely some moves KC could do to salvage this FA period. Add a player of Gaither's caliber so that you have some options at left and right tackle, sign a NT like Shaun Smith or Jamal Williams, add another veteran back that understands his role. You build through the draft, but if you can eliminate needs in FA, you can narrow down the scope in the draft.
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Patience has nothing to do with it. Players want to play for a competitive team. If KC has another season like 09 or 08, the chances of aquiring players become less and less likely unless the player is only interested in $$$$$$.

Eventually, you have to stop saying "be patient" and put a winning product on the field. Otherwise games are blacked out, losing seasons pile up, and nobody wants to play for you.
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They just said on NFLN that they talked to Pioli at the combine and that they expect to make moves to get PLAYMAKERS in the draft and not just typical linemen.

take it for what its worth, which is probably nothing. Just thought it was exciting to hear and thought I would pass it on for the people not watching or that dont have NFLN to start with...

didn't we have a second round tender on him? what are we gonna get out of that?

We didn't put a tender out on him.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...a-bcd95695e445

And by competitive teams if you mean the ones who pay the most you would be right.

I'll never understand why this is such a difficult concept. The Lions convinced 2 players to come and play for them. Why? BECAUSE THEY OFFERED THE MOST. Agents know what players are going to get on the market, they do their research.

Disagree.

Neither took another visit.

VandenBosch wanted to play for Schawarz again, and Linehan stood on the table to get Burleson because of their time together in Minnesota.

Neither were going on another visit - they want to play in Detroit.

I know that sounds crazy to some people, but at least they are building towards SOMETHING. We're just spinning our wheels.

With Dunta's deal done, Falcons will trade Chris Houston
Posted by Mike Florio on March 7, 2010 8:14 PM ET
On Saturday, the Atlanta Falcons signed veteran cornerback Dunta Robinson to a free-agent deal. With Robinson under contract, they no longer need cornerback Chris Houston.

And so, per ESPN's Adam Schefter, they're trading Houston. To the Lions. For a sixth-round draft pick and a flip-flop of fifth-rounders.

It's a dramatic free fall for the second-round pick from Arkansas, who has started 37 regular-season games and every 2008 contest -- including a playoff loss to the Cardinals.

And you don't think their agent knew what would be the contract ceiling for those 2 before he signed? I have a hard time believing that Nate Burleson said prior to the start of free agency that he'd really love to be a Detroit Lion.

I just love this premise that the Lions are building something.

What are they building? They are doing the exact same thing defensively that the Chiefs did for about 5 years by signing older free agent and patching up the defense with underachieving players.

They have a QB, and a WR, that's about it.

that's right--we tendered ndookie.

Then what the **** are we building?

The Lions are WAY ahead of us right now, and both franchises had a regime change at the same time. They were in way worse shape than we were.

I'd be shocked if they don't make the playoffs before we do, and they play in a MUCH tougher division.

I'd take their players versus our players at almost every position on the field sans RB, LT, LG and CB. I'd absolutely take their HC over ours.

Oh, I forgot our spectacular kicking tandem.

Nobody is gonna want to come here until we get a qb.

Why would they?

The only Lions players I'd take over ours is Matt Stafford, Lewis Delmas, Cherilus, and Calvin Johnson.

We can agree to disagree then. I would not take Jim Schwartz and his affinity to Gunther Cunningham over anyone in the NFL besides Tom Cable. I don't know what he did in his rookie year that stuck out to you at all.

Way ahead of us is about the biggest stretch of the imagination that I've read on here to be honest.

Players signed on to play here when Damon Huard was our starting quarterback. This notion that no one will play here is ridiculous already. Pay people and you'd see how quickly someone will sing the company tune.

Looks like Ryan Clark is going to sign in Miami. He says he isn't planning any more visits.

:facepalm: