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Direckshun 03-07-2011 12:57 PM

I bet he picks Aldon Smith.

To the surprise of no one.

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 01:15 PM

Kerrigan will be the pick.

The Franchise 03-07-2011 01:17 PM

If Hamas picks Kerrigan.....then I full expect OTW58 to take Aldon Smith right after him.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-07-2011 01:19 PM

This isn't a hard pick at all. The player matches the needs. Jermaine Cunningham is the heir-apparent at LOLB, and this guy can man the main pass rushing position, while also remaining versatile enough to rush as a RDE in nickel situations, or functioning as a Hali-esque standup defensive end.

The New England Patriots select Aldon Smith, ROLB/RDE, Missouri

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7472302)
If Hamas picks Kerrigan.....then I full expect OTW58 to take Aldon Smith right after him.

I agree that Smith should be off the board somewhere in the next three picks.

OnTheWarpath15 03-07-2011 01:28 PM

Dammit. Saw it coming.

If given the opportunity, I would have been trying desperately to trade up in front of the Pats.

Being #1 defensively with Shaun Phillips and hot garbage/career backups/upcoming FA's at the other 3 LB spots is pretty impressive, and while we would have liked to add Smith to the LB corp, we're happy to fill the position with our 1a choice.

The Chargers select: Ryan Kerrigan, OLB, Purdue

The Franchise 03-07-2011 01:28 PM

You both ****ing suck.

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 01:32 PM

In reality, I believe the Pats would go Kerrigan over Smith every single time. Not saying they'd be right, but I believe he fits their philosophy a bit more.

OnTheWarpath15 03-07-2011 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7472362)
In reality, I believe the Pats would go Kerrigan over Smith every single time. Not saying they'd be right, but I believe he fits their philosophy a bit more.

I agree.

The Franchise 03-07-2011 01:33 PM

Marco.































Polo.

Direckshun 03-07-2011 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7472362)
In reality, I believe the Pats would go Kerrigan over Smith every single time. Not saying they'd be right, but I believe he fits their philosophy a bit more.

Yup.

Then again, the Chiefs wouldn't have picked Dirty Sanchez #3 overall 20 minutes after trading a 2nd for Cassel.

Hamas only has a tenuous grip of reality when he's playing GM.

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7472446)
Yup.

Then again, the Chiefs wouldn't have picked Dirty Sanchez #3 overall 20 minutes after trading a 2nd for Cassel.

Hamas only has a tenuous grip of reality when he's playing GM.

I wasn't couching that as a criticism, though. I don't look it as we're trying to project the pick. Rather, we're trying to make educated, high-quality selections.

Smith isn't a poor pick by any means; he's higher upside but higher risk. I simply don't think the Pats are interested in the latter, when a "similar" player with great intangibles is available.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-07-2011 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7472362)
In reality, I believe the Pats would go Kerrigan over Smith every single time. Not saying they'd be right, but I believe he fits their philosophy a bit more.

They would, but as has been mentioned, "they" are not "me" and this is not a predictive exercise, it's supposed to be about what is best for the team you are picking for.

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7472456)
They would, but as has been mentioned, "they" are not "me" and this is not a predictive exercise, it's supposed to be about what is best for the team you are picking for.

Repost (see 252). :evil:

Don't passive voice my brilliance.

Direckshun 03-07-2011 02:43 PM

I think the Giants go with Castonzo or Sherrod with the current board.

I wouldn't put Pouncey past them, though. Or Martez Wilson I guess.

BigCatDaddy 03-07-2011 02:44 PM

I'm betting Tim Barnes goes in the 1st ROFL

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7472490)
I think the Giants go with Castonzo or Sherrod with the current board.

I wouldn't put Pouncey past them, though. Or Martez Wilson I guess.

Shut your whore mouth. /Chicago Bears

Direckshun 03-07-2011 02:47 PM

The Bears have so many holes, it's really amazing they made it as far as they did this year.

doomy3 03-07-2011 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7472496)
Shut your whore mouth. /Philadelphia Eagles

.

Titty Meat 03-07-2011 03:01 PM

I will openly discuss this since none of the teams infront of me need a QB. Do you think Carrol would go for a guy like Ponder? Hasselback has a year left and they paid for Whitehurst but he ****ing sucks.

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 7472528)
I will openly discuss this since none of the teams infront of me need a QB. Do you think Carrol would go for a guy like Ponder? Hasselback has a year left and they paid for Whitehurst but he ****ing sucks.

Rodgers' success should cause every single team to reevaluate their QB situation. For example, the Colts, Saints, and Pats are all in need of a QB and would do well to draft and groom the replacement for their respective stars.

That said, I still don't think that Ponder is a first-rounder, though I think he's a very intriguing prospect and someone whom I'd love to see the Chiefs draft in the second.

Titty Meat 03-07-2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7472536)
Rodgers' success should cause every single team to reevaluate their QB situation. For example, the Colts, Saints, and Pats are all in need of a QB and would do well to draft and groom the replacement for their respective stars.

That said, I still don't think that Ponder is a first-rounder, though I think he's a very intriguing prospect and someone whom I'd love to see the Chiefs draft in the second.

I don't think it's likely. The Colts showed they have a lot of holes to fill, The Saints are in a win now mode, and it doesn't seem like BB to draft a QB round 1 if anything he'd trade back into the 2nd to grab a QB.

I agree with you though I'd love to see the Chiefs grab Ponder in round 2 but he won't be there when we pick. I hope that lay down game in San Diego opened his eyes about drafting and grooming a QB because Croyle showed not only did he suck but he has no leadership whatsoever.

Direckshun 03-07-2011 03:57 PM

I actually think if the draft fell close to this, we'd see a sharp increase in the chances Ponder goes in the first.

The general thinking is that Gabbert and Newton are the top tier, and that there are scores of second-tier QBs that will make the picking pretty good in rounds 2 and 3.

But if there's a slightest hint that that well of second-tier QBs is drying up faster than expected (such as the Vikes going with Locker #12 overall), I fully suspect there'd be a run on QBs in the 1st and 2nd round. Keapernick, Ponder, Mallett, and perhaps even Dalton would benefit from this directly, as teams pay top dollar for promising prospects with upside.

The Seahawks could probably ride Hasselbeck for another year so long as they get him another weapon, if they had to.

The question goes to you as the GM: how badly do you think the Seahawks need a QB? If it's that desperately bad, do you think you can get the guy you want in 2 or 3?

If you think the talent is going to run dry, do it now while you can. Just understand that your job would be on the line if you were truly the Seahawks GM.

Buck 03-07-2011 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7472345)
Dammit. Saw it coming.

If given the opportunity, I would have been trying desperately to trade up in front of the Pats.

Being #1 defensively with Shaun Phillips and hot garbage/career backups/upcoming FA's at the other 3 LB spots is pretty impressive, and while we would have liked to add Smith to the LB corp, we're happy to fill the position with our 1a choice.

The Chargers select: Ryan Kerrigan, OLB, Purdue

That's a name I've been hearing a lot. Too bad we drafted Larry English #1 a few years back. He should just get fat and play DE, he might be better from a 3 point stance. He was in college.

Shawn Phillips is also from Purdue, so he might take this guy under his wing if we take him.

OnTheWarpath15 03-07-2011 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buck (Post 7472907)
That's a name I've been hearing a lot. Too bad we drafted Larry English #1 a few years back. He should just get fat and play DE, he might be better from a 3 point stance. He was in college.

Shawn Phillips is also from Purdue, so he might take this guy under his wing if we take him.

Who knows what AJ will do on draft day, but IMO, your biggest need is LB.

You have Phillips and 3 guys that are all FA's after this year, IIRC.

Just happened that value met need in this case.

Mr. Flopnuts 03-07-2011 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7472006)
This place has gone to hell since that Mr. Flopnuts guy left

I feared this would happen.

Marco Polo 03-07-2011 06:33 PM

The Giants are in need of OT. Their primary target, Tyron Smith, was snatched up by Detroit. They get their #2 choice, an up and comer who had glowing reviews from the Combine and Senior Bowl.

The New York Giants select OT Nate Solder, Colorado.

Rams Fan 03-07-2011 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 7473093)
The Giants are in need of OT. Their primary target, Tyron Smith, was snatched up by Detroit. They get their #2 choice, an up and comer who had glowing reviews from the Combine and Senior Bowl.

The New York Giants select OT Nate Solder, Colorado.

HEY, THE RAMS TOOK SOLDER! THINK AGAIN.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-07-2011 06:34 PM

What the ****in' ****.

The Franchise 03-07-2011 06:39 PM

I could be a dick and make my pick right now......but I won't.

And seriously....how hard is it for people to check the OP and see who was taken? It's not like were 6 rounds into this thing. FFS.

The Franchise 03-07-2011 06:42 PM

Hamas has already brought it up in the other mock draft.....but give the Rams to Rams_Fan.



I think we should let him switch his pick from Solder to whomever he wants (someone who hasn't been picked yet).....and give Solder to the Giants.

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7473117)
Hamas has already brought it up in the other mock draft.....but give the Rams to Rams_Fan. Let him switch his pick from Solder to whomever he wants.....and give Solder to the Giants.

Simply because of the...um...unconventional selection? Or did BCF bail?

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-07-2011 06:47 PM

Hopefully this Mongolian Cluster**** has been fixed

1) BigChiefFan dropped out. Why, I don't know. Whatever
2) Rams Fan has inherited his spot, and it will remain his until he decides to quit the mock
3) The Solder abortion was de-vacuumed and since Rams Fan loves Liuget, I've assigned Liuget to the Rams and Solder will stay with the Giants

Let's get this shit on the road.

Sfeihc 03-07-2011 06:47 PM

Welcome Rams Fan! Thank you for fixing things up best you can, Hamas. I second, lets get this shit on the road!

The Franchise 03-07-2011 06:48 PM

I imagined up the second half of that post......Hamas asked Rams Fan if he wanted the Rams and the Colts.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-07-2011 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 7473131)
This mock has officially been debacled.

No, it was debacled. Now it has been unbacled.

The Franchise 03-07-2011 06:50 PM

With the 20th pick in the 2011 CP Mock Draft....the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select:

Justin Houston, DE, University of Georgia

Contrary to what some analysts think.....Houston isn't a 3-4 OLB. This kid is the perfect blend of size and speed for a 4-3 DE.....something the Bucs need desperately. They drafted their DTs in last years draft.....and now they add that edge rusher to bring the pressure.

OnTheWarpath15 03-07-2011 06:52 PM

And here comes the Ayers pick...

The Franchise 03-07-2011 06:53 PM

PM Sent to Scott Pioli.

OnTheWarpath15 03-07-2011 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7473150)
PM Sent to Scott Pioli.

There are several 5-techs on the board.

LMAO

OnTheWarpath15 03-07-2011 06:58 PM

IMO, Taylor has to be the pick, considering who's on the board.

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-07-2011 07:05 PM

I'd take Ayers over Taylor here, but this is damned near a worst-case scenario.

OnTheWarpath15 03-07-2011 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7473185)
I'd take Ayers over Taylor here, but this is damned near a worst-case scenario.

Yeah, I'm not thrilled with the way this fell for us.

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 07:07 PM

I would probably go o-line here.

RealSNR 03-07-2011 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7473196)
I would probably go o-line here.

Nate Solder looks like a good pick for sure

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7473201)
Nate Solder looks like a good pick for sure

After he's been passed back and forth like a filthy little shit rag?

KCrockaholic 03-07-2011 07:13 PM

Damn this place went apeshit after that Solder pick. Good to see this mock is back on the saddle.

Chiefs=Champions 03-07-2011 07:23 PM

taylor or o line for the chiefs here. too much depth at wr to pick one now..

doomy3 03-07-2011 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7473196)
I would probably go o-line here.

I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I would go o-line here. That, or WR.

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7473292)
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic, but I would go o-line here. That, or WR.

No, I was in earnest. I think there's better value to be had at NT later, and Ayers just doesn't impress me, though I could be wrong about him.

Direckshun 03-07-2011 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7473196)
I would probably go o-line here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7473201)
Nate Solder looks like a good pick for sure

ROFL

Direckshun 03-07-2011 07:55 PM

So who would everybody go with if you were Scott Pioli?

I think this mock, minus my highway robbery of Nick Fairley, is fairly realistic.

I think I'd go with Phil Taylor.

Direckshun 03-07-2011 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7473128)
1) BigChiefFan dropped out. Why, I don't know. Whatever.

I can offer a few reasons:

1. He doesn't know the first thing about his assigned team.
2. He hasn't been keeping up with any Draft news at all, considering he couldn't fathom Julio Jones going top 10.
3. He didn't even inspect the OP before posting.
4. Cried like a bitch when his horrendous pick was horrendous.

I mean, I hate to kick a man when he's down, but we could have had chiefscafan in this thing.

doomy3 03-07-2011 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7473302)
So who would everybody go with if you were Scott Pioli?

I think this mock, minus my highway robbery of Nick Fairley, is fairly realistic.

I think I'd go with Phil Taylor.

Athony Castonzo or Jon Baldwin

BossChief 03-07-2011 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 7473311)
Athony Castonzo or Jon Baldwin

or Wisnewski

Direckshun 03-07-2011 08:10 PM

Might I add that we could call Taylor the trailor from Baylor?

Sfeihc 03-07-2011 08:10 PM

I would go Taylor. Pioli loves himself some d-linemen, we all know that. The Chiefs biggest needs are C, NT and WR. Getting Big Phil here allows the Chiefs to fill those other areas of need in the next couple of rounds. Could they get a NT later? Sure. However, at this particular juncture value meets need in a good way for the Chiefs. Too early to take the best C or WR left on the board, IMO.

The Franchise 03-07-2011 08:12 PM

Castonzo, Baldwin, Hankerson or Carimi.

BossChief 03-07-2011 08:12 PM

After having seemingly no interest in Cody last year, I doubt Taylor is even on our radar.

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 08:14 PM

Carimi (with the right to change my mind). But, currently, this is whom I'd probably select. Tough situation.

Direckshun 03-07-2011 08:16 PM

You guys are some reachy mother****ers.

Sfeihc 03-07-2011 08:18 PM

I blame Pioli.

RealSNR 03-07-2011 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7473351)
You guys are some reachy mother****ers.

Costanzo and Carimi are reaches to you?

DeezNutz 03-07-2011 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sfeihc (Post 7473357)
I blame Pioli.

He's the kind of guy who would never give a reachy. **** him.

And the irony of claiming that we're reaching when the "answer" is an underperforming NT from that piece of shit Baylor program is palpable humor.

RealSNR 03-07-2011 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7473308)

I mean, I hate to kick a man when he's down, but we could have had chiefscafan in this thing.

How did I miss this gem? ROFL

Coogs 03-07-2011 08:32 PM

To me, this would be the perfect spot to trade down to #40 with the Cowboys for thier 1st round pick next year. Cowboys could then get someone like J.J. Watt to fill out their defense.

We would have an extra 1st rounder next season, and be able to fill positions of need this season without reaching.

BossChief 03-07-2011 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 7473387)
To me, this would be the perfect spot to trade down to #40 with the Cowboys for thier 1st round pick next year. Cowboys could then get someone like J.J. Watt to fill out their defense.

We would have an extra 1st rounder next season, and be able to fill positions of need this season without reaching.

Who would you think they would spend that much to move up and take?

ChiefsCountry 03-07-2011 08:34 PM

Well here is the pick you guys have been waiting for. Its a no brainer and I win the draft and get to replace that ****ing piece of shit Vrabel at the same time. Now if we only had Sanchez as well oh.

Kansas City Chiefs select Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA.

Indianapolis with Rams Fan, our newest addition to the club, up.

Coogs 03-07-2011 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7473389)
Who would you think they would spend that much to move up and take?

I was thinking J.J Watt at DE. Some mocks have them taking him at #9. If they could get their DE and CB, their defense would be pretty much fixed.

RealSNR 03-07-2011 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7473391)
Well here is the pick you guys have been waiting for. Its a no brainer and I win the draft and get to replace that ****ing piece of shit Vrabel at the same time. Now if we only had Sanchez as well oh.

Kansas City Chiefs select Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA.

Indianapolis with Rams Fan, our newest addition to the club, up.

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DeezNutz 03-07-2011 08:43 PM

Well done, CC. Well ****ing done.

http://www.studyofsports.com/wp-cont..._peterson.jpeg

KCrockaholic 03-07-2011 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7473414)

:facepalm:

Just give us Justin Houston in the real draft dammit.

ChiefsCountry 03-07-2011 08:49 PM

For me it came down to 3 players.

Ayers
Taylor
Carimi

I like the depth at NT this year, same with RT. OLB gets pretty weak especially with the run on them in this draft already.

Direckshun 03-07-2011 08:53 PM

It's hard to argue with the pick.

It's also hard to feel excited by it.

You just kinda have to shrug at it and hope it pans out. The fact that Houston wasn't even available at the pick lessens the sting.

Direckshun 03-07-2011 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 7473424)
For me it came down to 3 players.

Ayers
Taylor
Carimi

I like the depth at NT this year, same with RT. OLB gets pretty weak especially with the run on them in this draft already.

You don't have to answer this since it might compromise your board...

But how deep, exactly, is this draft at nose?

Fua is not the best nose prospect. Powe is a Pioli guy, but has underwhelmed all offseason.

Direckshun 03-07-2011 09:09 PM

For the record, this is a pretty skinny draft. Who left really, truly warrants a first?

Watt. Castonzo. Pouncey. Sherrod.

Taylor, probably. Wilkerson, probably. Baldwin, probably.

Clayborn, maybe. Carimi, maybe. Brandon Harris or Jimmy Smith, maybe.

Ingram, hardly. Torrey Smith, hardly.

Titty Meat 03-07-2011 09:10 PM

Clayborn is a beast we just don't need another D-end.

the Talking Can 03-07-2011 09:12 PM

this draft makes aids want aids

Titty Meat 03-07-2011 09:12 PM

You also forgot Hayward from OSU who's also a beast.

Direckshun 03-07-2011 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 7473467)
You also forgot Hayward from OSU who's also a beast.

Ah, yes. Good call on Hayward.


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