RWe are outmatched against playoff teams. Talent wise.
And we have a an that can't beat teams who score more than 20 points.

We only win games when our team plays at 200 percent. When your team can only won with heart and rarely wins on talent, that's a reflection on the gm who is responsible for personnel decisions.

Please... Are you serious? He's marginally better than Muir. I'm not saying the Muir deal wasn't BS, but to say Gailey is a quality OC is abusrd. He's a middle of the road NFL retread.

Look at the numbers - http://www.pro-football-reference.co...es/GailCh0.htm

His offenses haven't been worth a shit since the end of the 90's. He's a below average OC at best...

The fact that he was on staff when Haley got here is the problem...

Gailey is a great offensive mind. Little evidence that he's great at leading a team. People forget that managing players and the team is the most critical function of a head coach. John harbaugh and Mike McCarthy arent the brightest playcallers in football. But they are exceptional at managing their teams.

He has the Bills 10th in the league in points, and the Cowboys were 9th and 11th in the league in points. He took a shit sandwich and made it palatable in KC in the last half of 2008.

Do I need to bring up:

His 8th ranked Miami offense?

His 11th and 7th ranked Steelers offenses?

Chan Gailey and Bill Muir are not on the same planet in terms of coaching ability.

I didn't say he should be HC, just that he could have been OC here and would have easily been a better HC than Haley.

He has the Bills 10th in the league as head coach, with 6 games left in the season, it'll drop to 15 by the end.

All the other shit you bring up is a decade old. The NFL had past both Muir and Gailey by. Neither one is relevant.

To say that Gailey is that much better than Muir is like saying a blow job is from your sister is better than a blowjob from your mom. It may be slightly better for your psyche, but that doesn't make it any more right.

We'd be no better off with Chan than Muir right now.

LMAO

Now Gailey sucks because you have a crystal ball.

Really? 2008 is 10 years ago? Really?

I agree, because Haley can't co-exist with anyone. That's why FIRE HIS ASS.

No, he has always sucked. It's like prediciting your behavior on CP. No one needs a crystal ball to do that.

He was OC in Miami in 2001 with that 8th ranked O. In 2008 he and Herm were piloting the turdship at One Arrowhead Dr.

And he got that turd Thigpen to lead an offense that scored 22 points a game.

He is not Bill Muir.

I think a head coach should have some say in what system he runs. The front office keeps forcing their guys onto him. And then we blame Haley because they don't get along.

That may be, but imagine if he had continued to run the Thigbone. Gimmick offense equals initial results, but no lasting success....

I do, too.

He should also be blamed for making shitty decisions.

Bullshit. He gets along well wig his entire staff and the players love him.

He wants to call plays. Let him. If he sinks, that's on him. If you hire an oc, give him say in who we hire. This front office is forcing him to work with the wrong people.

This makes sense.

TODD HALEY HIRED BILL MUIR.

What part of this do you not understand?

If the front office was run by Gif Horse we'd see a new coaching staff every half season.

Did he do it willingly? Or because pioli insisted he have an offensive coordinator.

Isn't it obvious that Haley wants to call his own plays?

:facepalm:

I have not called for anybody to be fired until the past month.

He hired an OC so he must not want to...

It's obvious he's done with that.

Whatever, you're a total reactionary. :LOL:

If the Chiefs are winning, you're fine, but when they hit the skids you're all about cleaning house.

Dude, I literally have not called for anybody to be fired until this month

Certainly did not call for it in 2009 and doing it last year would have been absurd, even after the playoff loss.

If you have evidence otherwise, post it. Otherwise, shut your ****ing trap about something you know nothing about.

Disagree. He clearly hired a guy who didn't have enough power to completely take playcalling duties and who he could overrule. This screams of "I want to call my own plays but since I can't just give me an oc I can still veto. "

Just let him call his own damn plays already.

To be fair, we don't KNOW who hired Bill Muir. We don't KNOW who hired Charlie Weis either.

To be perfectly honest, we don't really KNOW anything because this regime fancies themselves some kind of super-secret club - it's so "high school" and it starts with Pioli.

I'd just as soon start over myself. There's just too many issues to think that firing Haley, or drafting a NT, or replacing Matt Cassel, is going to fix it.

It's like you troll your own team's message board. You make some sweet videos, but you're a wishy washy bitch.

I don't have to find any proof becasue everyone that posts here, or even lurks here knows it.

Start a poll and see how the results shake out.

Sarcasm...

Disagree. I believe our supporting talent is much better than new Orleans and Indy. Fixing the qb in my opinion makes us a serious contender.

Our talent this year certainly isn't. Our only positions of strength at this point are WR and CB. Every other position on this team is weak right now.

A big, fat, hungry NT would go along way in the fixing department.

Fixing the QB patches a giant, gaping wound.

But there's SO MANY little things wrong with this team and it's the little things that turn a 10-6 team into a Super Bowl champion.

I'm not interested in being a contender anymore. If there's no Lombardi on the horizon, tear it down and start over.

Sure, and so would someone else who can rush the passer, two safeties who can cover anyone, etc.

Wrong.

I have literally NEVER called for anyone to be fired until this year.

Our front line talent isn't all that bad. Sure, there's room for improvement but we have some playmakers.

Our problem is depth. We are really, really thin almost everywhere. And, of course, this year we lost three of our best players to kick things off.

Pioli needs to get some quality depth in here, a quarterback with both ability and promise, and fix a couple of glaring problems in the starting lineup (see right offensive tackle).

We're not that far away, really. I have my doubts, though, as to whether or not Pioli can or will do that stuff.

FAX

It really is that simple.

At this point there is so much more bad than good there's no point in trying to point out the positives.

Good coaches in this league don't really have to be defended after three years on the job. Their work speaks for itself.

When healthy, we have a top notch running game and excellent receivers. The oline is better than Indy and new England. They aren't exceptional but are terrific run blockers and good enough in pass protection. Our offense has potential to be explosive around the right qb.

Our defense is solid but unspectacular. But good enough to keep us in games even thoguh we ask too much of them. Behind a top 10 offense, this defense is more than good enough.

You're a total reactionary. Own it man. It makes you who you are, it's why eveyone loves you.

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Our oline is needs an upgrade - Hudson needs to play and we need to draft a LG.

Definitely. But they are more than adequate for a qb who actually recognizes how to adjust for the blitz. Tyler palko showed that on Monday.

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I can't argue with that. We do need to get some young guys in there that can build a solid nucleus that can stay together for a while. Casey has a year or two left, and his performance is going to totally hit the shitter at some point.

I'll own up to the fact that I can get high after wins and low after losses.

But never in a million years would I call for a HC or GM to be fired after two seasons.

Didn't even do that with Herm.

ROFL.

I love how you incorporate the word "can" in there.

As if you had a choice, or took a moment to think about things.

You never have to actually post that you wanted someone fired to make my point valid.

It's the fact that you're all giffing them up one week, and then damning them to the fires of hell the next.

You know it's true, so why keep up this argument?

Me, I'm just bored at work and don't take this shit personally becasue we're on the internet.

You're ruled by your emotions, and that's cool man. It reminds me of my nieces and nephews.

This. If we had an NT that ate up doubleteams Dorsey and TJax would start getting penetration and disrupting more plays. They already hold their own pretty well vs. the run.

I'm convinced there's some law of nature against the Chiefs having a tough DL. Phillips and Salameua was the last time we had an interior line that intimidated anyone. Well except for like a half dozen games where someone pissed in McGlockton's cheerios and he decided to actually try.

Two questions.
Can Aaron Rodgers, drew brees, hell even Matt Ryan alone turn this team into a super bowl contender.

On the flip side, would Mary cassel make the saints, packers, or falcons a serious contender.

I was pushing for Cody in the draft inspite of his flabby tittays. We need a mauler in the middle. It might actually make LoserSU twins pretty serviceable.

If everyone was healthy?

1. Yes
2. **** no

OK.

But, I don't really see what your point is in that case.

I was fine with Haley being our head coach until this season. I was even willing to give Pioli and Cassel more time. I've stated as much in the past.

Now I've reached the point where one of them has to go.

Clearly.

Well, let's get one thing straight: I wouldn't have fired Haley or Pioli before this season.

You can say I would (as you clearly stated in your post), but you'd be wrong. I've never shown such an inclination.

How did we win the division last year? By simply beating the really bad teams, and letting Oakland and SD give away games to inferior talent. It seems like we have to play perfect games to win.

Having said that, I won't shed a tear if he is fired if the offense sans Cassel doesn't show signs of life by the end of the season. We at least moved the ball between the 20s on Monday. A small start.