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The Bad Guy 12-15-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8205287)
You heard anything lately Frank?

I did hear yesterday that the top 2 are Romeo and Ferentz. That's just Pioli's preference and has nothing to do with Ferentz's intentions.

Didn't hear it from the guy who told me Weis and Crennel were a done deal 2 years ago, but it's someone who has given me good info.

I'm 100% against Romeo. There's no interim coach that does jack with the teams after they become permanent. Someone will say Fisher, er Fischer, but his record is not impressive.

Brock 12-15-2011 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8205169)
What do you guys think of Kevin Gilbride?

He has done really well in NY with a lot of different players coming and going. Turned Eli into a good QB.

I thought you were smarter than this.

Frosty 12-15-2011 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 8205497)
Pay Fisher, he is likely the best guy out there

If that's true, we're screwed.

tymania 12-15-2011 09:54 AM

If Ferentz were to leave Iowa, this would be the year.. Before his excuses were his kids were still in High School, his youngest son Graduates this spring.. His Defensive Coordinator is resigning after Iowas upcoming bowl game.
i think Ferentz has maxed out his potential at Iowa, IMO and i am a Hawkeye fan. I would hate to see him leave Iowa, but if there was a time for him to leave i could see this being the time.
Who knows though, who knows if he even has any ambition to be a HC in the NFL.
I for one would love to see Ferentz coach the Chiefs, he coaches fundamentaly sound football teams and i think he would be a great help in developing the next great OL in Kansas City. The Chiefs could make a much worse hire than Ferentz

Pasta Little Brioni 12-15-2011 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 8203008)
If I had to pick a guy right now, it would be this guy. Earlier this season his name kept getting mentioned by SD's press. I heard that he was heavily involved in SD's offense and Norv depended on him a lot. Some beat writers around here were claiming that he was a huge loss and had a lot to do with River's success last season.

I agree. He can help Cassel's career turn a 360 ;)

bevischief 12-15-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tymania (Post 8205544)
If Ferentz were to leave Iowa, this would be the year.. Before his excuses were his kids were still in High School, his youngest son Graduates this spring.. His Defensive Coordinator is resigning after Iowas upcoming bowl game.
i think Ferentz has maxed out his potential at Iowa, IMO and i am a Hawkeye fan. I would hate to see him leave Iowa, but if there was a time for him to leave i could see this being the time.
Who knows though, who knows if he even has any ambition to be a HC in the NFL.
I for one would love to see Ferentz coach the Chiefs, he coaches fundamentaly sound football teams and i think he would be a great help in developing the next great OL in Kansas City. The Chiefs could make a much worse hire than Ferentz

http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansa...tz-will-not-be

Despite Relationship With Scott Pioli, Iowa's Kirk Ferentz Will Not Be Kansas City Chiefs' Next Head Coach

Dec 13 6:45a by Matthew Hays

Read More: Brian Ferentz (C - ATL), Tony Moeaki (TE - KAN), Ricky Stanzi (QB - KAN), Baltimore Ravens, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots, Cleveland Browns, Iowa Hawkeyes

Kansas City Chiefs fans are well aware of Scott Pioli's relationship with Kirk Ferentz, head coach at the University of Iowa. It's the point of ad nauseam as you will never hear Tony Moeaki or Ricky Stanzi being talked about, without the reference to Pioli's ongoing friendship with Ferentz.

As much as Pioli is mentioned as being a New England guy, he is also mentioned as being Ferentz's friend.

Well I am writing this to alert you that Kirk Ferentz will not be the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. Many Chiefs fans will be relieved, some may be indifferent and few likely will be sad as many fans don't think Ferentz necessarily has the experience to captain the Chiefs in the future.

Besides, would Kansas City fans really want two head coaches in a row that graduated from the same high school? That has no bearing on the future at all, but I do find it an amusing anecdote that Todd Haley and Ferentz are both graduates of Pittsburgh's Upper St. Clair High School.

This may be the one time where a sports bias can help you, as I am both a fan of the University of Iowa, and the Chiefs. I am educated when it comes to the background of Ferentz.

Let's look at what qualifies Ferentz to be the next Kansas City head coach. The 56-year old played linebacker at Connecticut and has been involved in coaching at the college or NFL level since 1977. From 1993-1998 Ferentz was offensive line coach for the Cleveland Browns/Baltimore Ravens franchise. He was on staff with Bill Belichick, further cementing his New England/Pioli ties.

In 1999, Ferentz, who had been the offensive line coach at Iowa from 1981-1989, took over the Hawkeyes program from the retiring Hayden Fry. He has taken an Iowa program from 1-10 and 3-9 records in his first two seasons to a 98-65 overall record, including four seasons of double digit wins and two BCS bowls.

At Iowa, Ferentz has commonly done less with more than many other programs in college football. For the size of the state, Ferentz has generally exceeded expectations and continually taken unheralded prospects and turned them into NFL prospects. Currently, Iowa has the eighth most players in the NFL of any college program. Offensive line play has continued to be a staple of Iowa's program under his watch.

Does that necessarily mean that Ferentz would be able to translate into an NFL head coach? The jury is out. Ferentz isn't a fiery coach and is more laid back. That is unlike Haley, and likely something Pioli would be looking for.

Though Ferentz has never jumped back into the NFL, he certainly has been mentioned for head coaching jobs before. However Ferentz has continually pledged his allegiance to Iowa.

Now looking at why Ferentz won't be the coach, it has nothing to do with experience, as it does with wanting to stay committed to Iowa.

His son James is a junior at Iowa and the starting center on the football team. Their youngest son, Steve is a senior at Iowa City High, and likely to join sons James and Brian as Ferentz boys who have played under their father at Iowa. Would Kirk pass up his son's senior season at Iowa and the possibility of having two sons on his team at the same time? I doubt it.

If one thing can be said, Ferentz is a loyal man. With Iowa's long-time defensive coordinator Norm Parker retiring on Sunday after a long coaching career, Ferentz doesn't seem to be the type of person who would leave the program with that much uncertainty going on at campus.

Now with Iowa finishing 8-5 last season and being 7-5 this season there certainly is pressure on Ferentz to get back to a stronger winning percentage. With a $3.65 million annual salary, many Iowa fans are wanting to see better results. That would spell a perfect time for an exit, and NFL Network's Charles Davis agrees, saying this-

Can't say that the news of Todd Haley's dismissal is surprising. In a lot of ways, it was a matter of when, not if. Now speculation turns to who's next. The name that intrigues me the most is Kirk Ferentz, head coach at Iowa. In the past he has resisted the siren song of the NFL, but to me, if he's ever going to make the move, this would be the time and place for it.

However, getting back the timing of Norm Parker's retirement and the chance to not only coach James' senior year, but also possibly have two sons on the team at Iowa next season, I don't see Ferentz taking the bait this time either.

Now if he did take the job, I imagine the Chiefs would have Brian Ferentz as their TE coach next season. Currently the TE coach with the Patriots (again, notice the connection?), the Patriots tight ends have been barnstorming through the league this season. While a lot of that has to do with pure talent on their roster, you can't argue that what Brian Ferentz is doing is working.

This writing probably comes off as a Ferentz love fest to many Chiefs fans, but let me just assure those of you that are skeptics of his possibility of coaching the Chiefs next year. Don't worry, Kirk Ferentz is not coming to Kansas City.

tymania 12-15-2011 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8205637)
http://kansascity.sbnation.com/kansa...tz-will-not-be

Despite Relationship With Scott Pioli, Iowa's Kirk Ferentz Will Not Be Kansas City Chiefs' Next Head Coach

Dec 13 6:45a by Matthew Hays

Read More: Brian Ferentz (C - ATL), Tony Moeaki (TE - KAN), Ricky Stanzi (QB - KAN), Baltimore Ravens, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots, Cleveland Browns, Iowa Hawkeyes

Kansas City Chiefs fans are well aware of Scott Pioli's relationship with Kirk Ferentz, head coach at the University of Iowa. It's the point of ad nauseam as you will never hear Tony Moeaki or Ricky Stanzi being talked about, without the reference to Pioli's ongoing friendship with Ferentz.

As much as Pioli is mentioned as being a New England guy, he is also mentioned as being Ferentz's friend.

Well I am writing this to alert you that Kirk Ferentz will not be the next head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. Many Chiefs fans will be relieved, some may be indifferent and few likely will be sad as many fans don't think Ferentz necessarily has the experience to captain the Chiefs in the future.

Besides, would Kansas City fans really want two head coaches in a row that graduated from the same high school? That has no bearing on the future at all, but I do find it an amusing anecdote that Todd Haley and Ferentz are both graduates of Pittsburgh's Upper St. Clair High School.

This may be the one time where a sports bias can help you, as I am both a fan of the University of Iowa, and the Chiefs. I am educated when it comes to the background of Ferentz.

Let's look at what qualifies Ferentz to be the next Kansas City head coach. The 56-year old played linebacker at Connecticut and has been involved in coaching at the college or NFL level since 1977. From 1993-1998 Ferentz was offensive line coach for the Cleveland Browns/Baltimore Ravens franchise. He was on staff with Bill Belichick, further cementing his New England/Pioli ties.

In 1999, Ferentz, who had been the offensive line coach at Iowa from 1981-1989, took over the Hawkeyes program from the retiring Hayden Fry. He has taken an Iowa program from 1-10 and 3-9 records in his first two seasons to a 98-65 overall record, including four seasons of double digit wins and two BCS bowls.

At Iowa, Ferentz has commonly done less with more than many other programs in college football. For the size of the state, Ferentz has generally exceeded expectations and continually taken unheralded prospects and turned them into NFL prospects. Currently, Iowa has the eighth most players in the NFL of any college program. Offensive line play has continued to be a staple of Iowa's program under his watch.

Does that necessarily mean that Ferentz would be able to translate into an NFL head coach? The jury is out. Ferentz isn't a fiery coach and is more laid back. That is unlike Haley, and likely something Pioli would be looking for.

Though Ferentz has never jumped back into the NFL, he certainly has been mentioned for head coaching jobs before. However Ferentz has continually pledged his allegiance to Iowa.

Now looking at why Ferentz won't be the coach, it has nothing to do with experience, as it does with wanting to stay committed to Iowa.

His son James is a junior at Iowa and the starting center on the football team. Their youngest son, Steve is a senior at Iowa City High, and likely to join sons James and Brian as Ferentz boys who have played under their father at Iowa. Would Kirk pass up his son's senior season at Iowa and the possibility of having two sons on his team at the same time? I doubt it.

If one thing can be said, Ferentz is a loyal man. With Iowa's long-time defensive coordinator Norm Parker retiring on Sunday after a long coaching career, Ferentz doesn't seem to be the type of person who would leave the program with that much uncertainty going on at campus.

Now with Iowa finishing 8-5 last season and being 7-5 this season there certainly is pressure on Ferentz to get back to a stronger winning percentage. With a $3.65 million annual salary, many Iowa fans are wanting to see better results. That would spell a perfect time for an exit, and NFL Network's Charles Davis agrees, saying this-

Can't say that the news of Todd Haley's dismissal is surprising. In a lot of ways, it was a matter of when, not if. Now speculation turns to who's next. The name that intrigues me the most is Kirk Ferentz, head coach at Iowa. In the past he has resisted the siren song of the NFL, but to me, if he's ever going to make the move, this would be the time and place for it.

However, getting back the timing of Norm Parker's retirement and the chance to not only coach James' senior year, but also possibly have two sons on the team at Iowa next season, I don't see Ferentz taking the bait this time either.

Now if he did take the job, I imagine the Chiefs would have Brian Ferentz as their TE coach next season. Currently the TE coach with the Patriots (again, notice the connection?), the Patriots tight ends have been barnstorming through the league this season. While a lot of that has to do with pure talent on their roster, you can't argue that what Brian Ferentz is doing is working.

This writing probably comes off as a Ferentz love fest to many Chiefs fans, but let me just assure those of you that are skeptics of his possibility of coaching the Chiefs next year. Don't worry, Kirk Ferentz is not coming to Kansas City.

So you are saying there is a chance??
I tend to agree with the article, having two sons on the same team would be awful hard for him to walk away from.. IF Kirk gets offered an interview(which id imagine he would), he will have a tough decision on his hands.. I would not blame him at all for staying at Iowa, i would probably do the same thing.
But regardless of his sons, if he ever wants to make a jump to the NFL as a HC, this is a good of time as any..

htismaqe 12-15-2011 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8205502)
I'm 100% against Romeo. There's no interim coach that does jack with the teams after they become permanent. Someone will say Fisher, er Fischer, but his record is not impressive.

I honestly don't get why this isn't obvious - the whole PURPOSE of an interim coach is to provide continuity.

And they're providing a continuation of the policies and procedures that just got someone FIRED.

htismaqe 12-15-2011 11:07 AM

Ferentz is 56 years old. I just don't think he's going to leave Iowa. He can retire at the end of his existing contract (2020).

I don't know why he'd leave for an NFL job when he'd like be looking for a job again at age 61-62.

FringeNC 12-15-2011 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8205738)
Ferentz is 56 years old. I just don't think he's going to leave Iowa. He can retire at the end of his existing contract (2020).

I don't know why he'd leave for an NFL job when he'd like be looking for a job again at age 61-62.

But given the dysfunctional relationship Pioli just got out of, I am pretty confident Clark Hunt is demanding Pioli hire someone he will get along with or he's fired. Pioli is going to put the screws to Ferentz like Carl did with DV.

el borracho 12-15-2011 07:47 PM

It seems like one of the things Clark and Scott liked about Haley was his age. They wanted to identify someone who could grow into the role and maintain the position long-term to help provide organizational stability. Am I misremembering that? If that is true, then there shouldn't be any chance at all that Crennel and/or Muir are around next year.

TimeForWasp 12-15-2011 07:48 PM

Brian Shotenheimer???

Hammock Parties 12-15-2011 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 8207192)
It seems like one of the things Clark and Scott liked about Haley was his age. They wanted to identify someone who could grow into the role and maintain the position long-term to help provide organizational stability. Am I misremembering that? If that is true, then there shouldn't be any chance at all that Crennel and/or Muir are around next year.

Another reason to hire Fisher. He's only 53.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-15-2011 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8207199)
Another reason to hire Fisher. He's only 53.

How about this if its not fisher i can take my sig down?

Hammock Parties 12-15-2011 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsNow (Post 8207194)
Brian Shotenheimer???

Jets fans hate him and his offense.

Hammock Parties 12-15-2011 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8207203)
How about this if its not fisher i can take my sig down?

LMAO

Don't think so.

Enjoy having that for the whole offseason.

AustinChief 12-15-2011 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 8205502)
I did hear yesterday that the top 2 are Romeo and Ferentz. That's just Pioli's preference and has nothing to do with Ferentz's intentions.

Didn't hear it from the guy who told me Weis and Crennel were a done deal 2 years ago, but it's someone who has given me good info.

I'm 100% against Romeo. There's no interim coach that does jack with the teams after they become permanent. Someone will say Fisher, er Fischer, but his record is not impressive.

I'm not sold on Romeo... but in his defense... he would likely bring in someone to stay the course with the D but bring in someone qualified to change the O and we'd have a real OC again.. and I'm ok with that. If Romeo keeps Muir, then I'm not ok.

crazycoffey 12-15-2011 07:56 PM

Steve Mariucci hasn't been mentioned yet?

Brock 12-15-2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 8207216)
Steve Mariucci hasn't been mentioned yet?

Only by morons.

crazycoffey 12-15-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8207224)
Only by morons.

Oh, so you mentioned him already?
I figured some idiot did, I just didn't read about yet

Okie_Apparition 12-15-2011 08:29 PM

McDaniels has already started working with Palko

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Hammock Parties 12-16-2011 05:39 AM

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=8&f=1376&t=8442508

"Danan Hughes reports Jeff Fisher will be named head coach of the KC Chiefs within the next few days. I heard it on the KXNO at noon today for what it's worth."

ILChief 12-16-2011 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8208045)
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=8&f=1376&t=8442508

"Danan Hughes reports Jeff Fisher will be named head coach of the KC Chiefs within the next few days. I heard it on the KXNO at noon today for what it's worth."

Whatever, I don't think they can hire until the season is over

Mr_Tomahawk 12-16-2011 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8208045)
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=8&f=1376&t=8442508

"Danan Hughes reports Jeff Fisher will be named head coach of the KC Chiefs within the next few days. I heard it on the KXNO at noon today for what it's worth."

I wonder how many times individuals from other forums quote members from CP? LMAO

bevischief 12-16-2011 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILChief (Post 8208052)
Whatever, I don't think they can hire until the season is over

He is not under contract.

CaliforniaChief 12-16-2011 07:24 AM

Some of the stuff being thrown around is pretty funny. Lee Hamilton on XX1090 of San Diego keeps floating this stuff that Pioli likes Marty Schottenheimer and could be going after him for an "Arrowhead Reunion." LMAO

bevischief 12-16-2011 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 8208066)
Some of the stuff being thrown around is pretty funny. Lee Hamilton on XX1090 of San Diego keeps floating this stuff that Pioli likes Marty Schottenheimer and could be going after him for an "Arrowhead Reunion." LMAO

He needs to share whatever he is smoking...

Chiefnj2 12-16-2011 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8208064)
He is not under contract.

Who is going to coach the team the final 2 games?

bevischief 12-16-2011 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8208100)
Who is going to coach the team the final 2 games?

Romo.

Chiefnj2 12-16-2011 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8208107)
Romo.

He's going to play QB and coach?

Name 1 instance where a HC was fired midseason and a replacement was signed and brought in from outside the organization while the rest of the season was still ongoing?

They've already promised Romeo an opportunity. They haven't interviewed anyone. They'd violate the Rooney rule if they signed anyone at this point. No player or coach would show up the last two weeks if they hired Fisher "in a few days."

Sassy Squatch 12-16-2011 08:37 AM

Wouldn't Romeo fulfill the Rooney Clause?

Chiefnj2 12-16-2011 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 8208121)
Wouldn't Romeo fulfill the Rooney Clause?

If they interview him. They aren't going to interview anyone until the season is over.

htismaqe 12-16-2011 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8208128)
If they interview him. They aren't going to interview anyone until the season is over.

They've already interviewed a half dozen people, I can guarantee you that.

htismaqe 12-16-2011 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 8208066)
Some of the stuff being thrown around is pretty funny. Lee Hamilton on XX1090 of San Diego keeps floating this stuff that Pioli likes Marty Schottenheimer and could be going after him for an "Arrowhead Reunion." LMAO

That's awesome. Pioli isn't worse than Carl. Pioli isn't better than Carl.

Pioli IS Carl.

ROFL

TimeForWasp 12-16-2011 09:58 AM

I thought Fisher wanted Sam Hurd type money.

Dave Lane 12-16-2011 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8208045)
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=8&f=1376&t=8442508

"Danan Hughes reports Jeff Fisher will be named head coach of the KC Chiefs within the next few days. I heard it on the KXNO at noon today for what it's worth."

Is the firejefffisher.com URL available I think you would get a ton of traffic on the site once Marty light starts to work his "magic".

FringeNC 12-16-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8208170)
That's awesome. Pioli isn't worse than Carl. Pioli isn't better than Carl.

Pioli IS Carl.

ROFL

I'd take Marty over Jeff Fisher, that's for sure.

KC_Lee 12-16-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8208254)
I'd take Marty over Jeff Fisher, that's for sure.

:banghead: They're the same freaking type of coach! :banghead:


We've been down that road before, do we really want to go down it again?

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-16-2011 03:59 PM

The Kansas City Chiefs are going through a coaching search and one of the names that will be considered is interim head coach Romeo Crennel. I've already made my early prediction in the Chiefs coaching search and it ends with Crennel ultimately taking the Chiefs head coaching job in 2012 and beyond.

It sounds like I'm not alone with that prediction. Others have said the same and I heard Alex Marvez of FOXSports.com talking to Soren Petro on 810 WHB and he laid out his theory on how this could end.




"I'll be honest with you," Marvez said, "I think the way to do this, and I know this is not a spectacular, flashy hire or anything like that, I'm all for letting Romeo Crennel try to keep this job on a full time basis. I think that the defense...you've seen players improve under his watch. Look at what Tamba Hali does, and Derrick Johnson and Brandon Flowers .

"Guys have gotten so much better. You're starting to see signs of life from Glenn Dorsey , he's playing the best football, in my opinion, consistently, of his career. You look at the defensive end that was drafted out of LSU, he's stepped up. You've seen players improve and the players respond to RAC

"I think Romeo would be a really nice fit as head coach moving forward because he shares Scott's vision with the addition of Josh McDaniels as offensive coordinator/head coach in waiting. RAC is 64 years old, he's not going to be coaching into his 80s. If you go ahead and have Josh come in and settle into this team, get his own ideas on how this should go, and eventually replace Romeo and you have this succession plan, then maybe this could work. Maybe Josh McDaniels needs a strong general manager to help him have success in this league

ChiefsCountry 12-16-2011 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8208169)
They've already interviewed a half dozen people, I can guarantee you that.

Or talking to agents. ;)

The Franchise 12-16-2011 04:03 PM

Tyson Jackson is so awesome....that they forgot his name.

Titty Meat 12-16-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 8209122)
Or talking to agents. ;)

Details

Rooster 12-16-2011 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Okie_Apparition (Post 8207319)
McDaniels has already started working with Palko

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LMAOLMAO

FD 12-16-2011 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 8208254)
I'd take Marty over Jeff Fisher, that's for sure.

I would take almost anyone over Jeff Fisher.

ChiefsCountry 12-16-2011 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8209128)
Details

You can't inteview per say until after the season if over, but you sure as hell can talk to their agents about it.

Rooster 12-16-2011 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 8203429)
Josh McDaniels is not in the running.

:grovel::grovel::grovel:

Frosty 12-16-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8209117)
"I think Romeo would be a really nice fit as head coach moving forward because he shares Scott's vision with the addition of Josh McDaniels as offensive coordinator/head coach in waiting. RAC is 64 years old, he's not going to be coaching into his 80s. If you go ahead and have Josh come in and settle into this team, get his own ideas on how this should go, and eventually replace Romeo and you have this succession plan, then maybe this could work. Maybe Josh McDaniels needs a strong general manager to help him have success in this league

Oh god.

Kill me now. :banghead:

Okie_Apparition 12-16-2011 11:09 PM

I don't think the True Fan ticket of Fisher & Peyton Manning would surprise anyone

Frankie 12-16-2011 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8209117)
"I think Romeo would be a really nice fit as head coach moving forward because he shares Scott's vision with the addition of Josh McDaniels as offensive coordinator/head coach in waiting. RAC is 64 years old, he's not going to be coaching into his 80s. If you go ahead and have Josh come in and settle into this team, get his own ideas on how this should go, and eventually replace Romeo and you have this succession plan, then maybe this could work. Maybe Josh McDaniels needs a strong general manager to help him have success in this league

Romeo as HC is far from my favorite scenario. But if a good young candidate can't be found out there, I can live with this scenario, due to the stability it will bing.

Romeo is 64 which means, if successful, he will retire in a few years and hopefully by then some young assistant from our own staff has emerged/developed to be promoted to HC AS LONG AS HIS NAME DOES NOT BEGIN WITH 'J' AND END WITH 'OSH McDANIELS!!!'

crazycoffey 12-17-2011 12:07 AM

someone on Rich's podcast said Fisher is almost a "shoe in" to Dallas....

Hammock Parties 12-17-2011 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 8210268)
someone on Rich's podcast said Fisher is almost a "shoe in" to Dallas....

Which is odd considering they HAVE A HEAD COACH. :facepalm:

Frankie 12-17-2011 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8210271)
Which is odd considering they HAVE A HEAD COACH. :facepalm:

I think it will be another year before Jones admits to his mistake. He'll keep the HC for another year at least. Fisher, IMO, will end up in SD.

crazycoffey 12-17-2011 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8210271)
Which is odd considering they HAVE A HEAD COACH. :facepalm:

I didn't make it up! I just heard it and thought, "Better there than here!" and then thought, "hell, I didn't read that on the planet? WTF?"

Frankie 12-17-2011 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 8210268)
someone on Rich's podcast said Fisher is almost a "shoe in" to Dallas....

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 8210279)
I didn't make it up! I just heard it and thought, "Better there than here!" and then thought, "hell, I didn't read that on the planet? WTF?"

Wilbon suggested it today on PTI. The guy must have watched the show today and thought a sports pundit's suggestion equals "shoe in."

crazycoffey 12-17-2011 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 8210298)
Wilbon suggested it today on PTI. The guy must have watched the show today and thought a sports pundit's suggestion equals "shoe in."

revolutionary! Sports pundits making guesses? I never would have put that together, thank you so much....


:spock:



Either one could have "stolen" the idea from the other, or each made up their own "hypothesis", or both have similar "inside source speculation". You have DC conspiracy on the brain, washed over by the politic speak of extremists and trying to apply that thought process to the football world.

Here's a hint, even Pioli and Jones do not know who they are going to hire at this present moment, they are game planning and positioning and there is no secret recipe to figuring it out right now. All this "who's going to coach what team" talk is ****ing ludicrous.

TimeForWasp 12-17-2011 08:03 PM

I kind of like the Marc Trestman idea.

http://www.coachmarctrestman.com/

-King- 12-17-2011 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Omega (Post 8210271)
Which is odd considering they HAVE A HEAD COACH. :facepalm:

Not many are sure that Garret will be kept and he did get the dreaded vote of confidence a week or two ago.
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Frankie 12-17-2011 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 8211699)
Not many are sure that Garret will be kept and he did get the dreaded vote of confidence a week or two ago.
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This was not your usual "vote of confidence" by an NFL owner who's about to can the HC. I saw it on the tube. Jones was pretty "duh" answering the question about keeping Garret. I think Jones is still too much Jones's personal project to admit he might have goofed. If the Cowboys are the sam next year as well I think Jones will wake up to it.

TimeForWasp 12-17-2011 10:48 PM

I nominate Trestman


http://www.allcoachnetwork.com/trest...timonials.html

Impressive resume I think.


Marc Trestman (born January 15, 1956)<sup id="cite_ref-0" class="reference">[1]</sup> is the head coach of the Montreal Alouettes of the Canadian Football League. In four seasons at Montreal, Trestman has guided the Alouettes to three Grey Cup appearances, including back-to-back Grey Cup Championships in 2009 and 2010.
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</td> </tr> </tbody></table> [edit] Early life

<sup id="cite_ref-1" class="reference">[2]</sup><sup id="cite_ref-2" class="reference">[3]</sup> He graduated in 1974 from Saint Louis Park High School in Minnesota. He played quarterback for the University of Minnesota Golden Gophers football team for three seasons. He transferred as a senior to play quarterback at Minnesota State University Moorhead. Trestman received a bachelor's degree in political science from Minnesota in 1979 and is a graduate of the University of Miami School of Law. He has been a member of the Florida bar since 1983.
Trestman went to training camp with the Minnesota Vikings in both 1978 and 1979 as a defensive back.
[edit] Coaching career

[edit] NCAA

He entered football coaching at the University of Miami in 1981 as a volunteer coach. In 1983 he was named quarterbacks coach. That year quarterback Bernie Kosar passed for 2,329 yards and Miami won the national championship. The next year Kosar completed 262 passes for 3,642 yards, both school records.
In 2005, he returned to college football as the North Carolina State Wolfpack offensive coordinator, guiding the Wolfpack to a win in the Meineke Car Care Bowl.
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Trestman moved to the National Football League and coached the running backs with the Minnesota Vikings in 1985 and 1986. He became quarterbacks coach with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers in 1987 then held the same position with the Cleveland Browns in 1988. In Cleveland he again coached Kosar and the team finished 10–6 and made the playoffs. He was promoted to offensive coordinator in 1989. That year Kosar passed for 3,533 yards and 18 TDs, wide receiver Webster Slaughter had a franchise record 1,236 receiving yards, and the Browns made it to the AFC Championship game.
In 1990, Trestman returned to Minnesota as quarterbacks coach for the Vikings. He spent two years there and then left coaching for three years.
He returned to the NFL in 1995 as quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator with San Francisco, where he served in that capacity through 1996. The first year he was there the 49ers led the NFL with 457 points scored, 644 pass attempts and 4,779 passing yards.
Trestman joined the Detroit Lions as quarterbacks coach in 1997. That year Lion's quarterback Scott Mitchell passed for 3,484 yards, second most in team history.
In 1998 he was with the Arizona Cardinals as quarterbacks coach and offensive coordinator. That year quarterback Jake Plummer threw for 3,737 yards, and the Cardinals made the playoffs for the first time since 1982 and won their first post season game in 51 years.
He next went to the Oakland Raiders in 2001 as the quarterbacks coach. In 2002 he was promoted to offensive coordinator and the Raiders led the NFL in total offense with 389.8 yards per game and passing yards with 279.7 per game. Under Trestman's guidance, Raiders QB Rich Gannon won the 2002 NFL MVP award as the Raiders reached Super Bowl XXXVII, losing to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Trestman spent the 2004 season with the Miami Dolphins before returning the the college ranks.
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On December 18, 2007, Trestman was named head coach for the Montreal Alouettes of the Canadian Football League. The Alouettes narrowly lost 22–14 to the Calgary Stampeders in the 2008 Grey Cup championship game. At the conclusion of the season, he was nominated for the CFL's Annis Stukus Award as the league's top coach, with Calgary's John Hufnagel winning. On March 5, 2010, Trestman won the Coach of the year award.
In 2009, Trestman led the Alouettes to win the 2009 Grey Cup, winning with a thrilling field goal with no time left on the clock. After the season, it was announced that he was signed through the 2012 season as the head coach. Trestman also lead the Alouettes to a Grey Cup win in 2010. Under Trestman's guidance, Alouettes QB Anthony Calvillo won back-to-back MVP awards in 2009 and 2010.
[edit] NFL Draft Training Coach

Trestman worked with André Woodson leading up to the 2008 NFL Draft in an attempt to help improve Woodson's throwing mechanics and draft stock.<sup id="cite_ref-3" class="reference">[4]</sup>He has also trained Jason Campbell, Jay Cutler, and Jimmy Clausen prior to the NFL drafts.
Most recently, Trestman worked extensively with Florida Gators QB Tim Tebow prior to the 2010 NFL Draft.<sup id="cite_ref-4" class="reference">[5]</sup> After working to fine-tune Tebow's unique throwing mechanics, Tebow was drafted 25th overall in the 1st round of the NFL draft.

Titty Meat 12-18-2011 12:11 AM

Rob Chudzinski is the best candidate IMO

Sofa King 12-18-2011 03:09 PM

I nominate Romeo Crennel.

The Iron Chief 12-18-2011 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8215343)
I nominate Romeo Crennel.

I like the way hes come right out and talked openly changed things no secrets and now might have a qb that can toss the rock.

johnny961 12-18-2011 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8215343)
I nominate Romeo Crennel.

Seconded.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-20-2011 11:04 AM

evansilvaEvan Silva

Romeo Crennel's backing of Orton > Cassel is telling, spot-on, and won't sit well w/ #Chiefs higher-ups who overpaid for & overpaid Cassel.

Brock 12-20-2011 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8222835)
evansilvaEvan Silva

Romeo Crennel's backing of Orton > Cassel is telling, spot-on, and won't sit well w/ #Chiefs higher-ups who overpaid for & overpaid Cassel.

Oh, I'm definitely in Crennel's corner now.

notorious 12-20-2011 11:07 AM

The higher-ups want to make money.


They make more money if we win.

Cassel isn't going to make that happen.

htismaqe 12-20-2011 11:10 AM

Romeo came out right away, BEFORE the Green Bay game, and said things that were counter to what we've all been told was Pioli/Haley's "veil of secrecy".

Now he's openly advocating for someone other than Cassel.

I said it once and I'll say it again:

1) Pioli is allowing it in order to further cement Haley's perceived role as the scapegoat or
2) Pioli genuinely had to allow it because Clark reprimanded him or
3) Romeo just doesn't give a crap and is gonna say what he believes.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-20-2011 11:12 AM

I'm voting for number 3.

The Franchise 12-20-2011 11:22 AM

I vote #1.

The Franchise 12-20-2011 11:23 AM

Honestly....think about it. Pioli is pretty much sitting in the perfect scenario to get himself out of that corner.

He fired Haley and now he can pretty much lay ALL of the blame on Haley. Cassel didn't work out and had to be cut? Blame Haley. Veil of secrecy? Blame Haley.

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-21-2011 12:00 AM

ChiefsandOsFanGreg

@JasonLaCanfora Hey jason there is alot of talk in KC fisher will be next coach u hearing anything?


JasonLaCanforaJason La Canfora

@ChiefsandOsFan would be stunned if that's the case

Okie_Apparition 12-21-2011 12:05 AM

Fisher will go to San Diego or Indy
loooooooong before coming to KC
& there could be the Giants aswell

johnny961 12-21-2011 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 8222835)
evansilvaEvan Silva

Romeo Crennel's backing of Orton > Cassel is telling, spot-on, and won't sit well w/ #Chiefs higher-ups who overpaid for & overpaid Cassel.

I kinda wondered how it went over with Pioli when Crennel made that statement during the presser the other day. Thats why I was kinda shocked that Romeo came right out and said what he did, especially considering the fact that he is wanting that HC job and hasn't got it yet.

The Bad Guy 12-21-2011 08:22 AM

If we want a real change at QB, Romeo may be our only hope.

FringeNC 12-21-2011 08:10 PM

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/1...n-asterisk/rss


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I'm told by a several league sources that Kansas City interim coach Romeo Crennel is almost a lock to get the job full-time. One source said it's 80 to 90 percent certain and what Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli could do is bring in a hot offensive coordinator to go with Crennel.

Meanwhile, in Miami, interim coach Todd Bowles doesn't have a chance in hell at keeping that position. Which is a shame.

crazycoffey 12-21-2011 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnny961 (Post 8224876)
I kinda wondered how it went over with Pioli when Crennel made that statement during the presser the other day. Thats why I was kinda shocked that Romeo came right out and said what he did, especially considering the fact that he is wanting that HC job and hasn't got it yet.

At the end of the day, I just can't believe that pioli cares more about cassel than winning.

phisherman 12-23-2011 01:48 PM

in the past week or so, i have had at least 4-5 people tell me that cowher is in town house shopping.

all have gotten this info from a solid source, some real estate agent friend. it's gotten so far out of hand now, i have started to just agree with them. the amount of funny is almost getting out of hand.

booyaf2 12-23-2011 01:56 PM

:popcorn:

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-23-2011 02:04 PM

In the wake of the Chiefs’ stunning, 19-14 victory over the previously undefeated Packers last Sunday, interim coach Romeo Crennel is getting a lot of love. Among those in the K.C. locker room campaigning for “RAC” to get a crack at the permanent job is standout pass rusher Tamba Hali. Will Crennel, who worked as an assistant with the Patriots when current Chiefs GM Scott Pioli was that franchise’s top personnel executive, land the gig? If so, will Pioli be more loyal to him than Browns GM Phil Savage was when Crennel was Cleveland’s head coach? Let’s call on Mark Knopfler and Dire Straits to help Crennel enunciate his passion, to the tune of “Romeo and Juliet.”

A pumped-up Romeo gives the Chiefs some winning tips
Laying everybody low with a Gladiator clip
Turns the film off, makes a few good quips
Says something like, “You and me, guys, how about it?”

Pioli says, “Hey, it’s Romeo, you nearly gave me a heart attack!”
He’s outside of the office, he’s singing, “Orton’s my quarterback.
Back when Todd Haley was here I know you weren’t havin’ that …
Anyway, what you gonna do about it?”


Pioli, the dice was loaded from the start
And I bet when I exploded into your heart
That you regret, you regret it took so long
When you gonna realize it was just that the job was wrong, Pioli?

Come up in Foxborough, workin’ for Belichick
Got dirty, got mean, yes, I think you know what makes me tick
And I coached big games for Bill and opened up your eyes
How can you look at me as if I was just another one of your guys?

When you can fall for Josh McDaniels,
You can fall for Kirk Ferentz,
You can fall for young assistants
And retreads that make no sense
I’ll promise you everything, I’ll promise you thick and thin, yeah!
Now you just say, “Oh Romeo? Yeah, you know I won some Super Bowls with him.”

Pioli, when we won rings, you used to cry.
You said, “I love all my Belichick guys, I’ll love you ‘til I die.”
There’s a time for us, and it’s time to be strong
When you gonna realize it was just that the coach was wrong, Pioli?

I can’t do the talk, like the talk on TV
And I can’t wear a tight shirt, or a medium hoodie
I can’t grow ratty beards, but I’ll do anything for you
I sure can coach ‘em up, what more I gotta prove?
And all I do is win, Scott, like the Chiefs of Marty
All I did was beat the Pack … and Mike McCarthy
Now all the players want me, want this job to be mine
Pioli, I’d take the fall for you any time!

Pioli, when we won rings, you used to cry.
You said, “I love all my Belichick guys, I’ll love you ‘til I die.”
There’s a time for us, and it’s time to be strong
When you gonna realize it was just that the coach was wrong, Pioli?

And a love-struck Romeo sings The Chief a serenade
Laying everybody low with a buffed-up résumé
He turns off the projector, steps out of the shade
He says something like, “You and me babe, how about it?”

You and me Scott, how about it?

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-26-2011 04:01 PM

• "New England's band was broken up, and what you had were a bunch of solo albums. (Eric) Mangini and (Romeo) Crennel and (Charlie) Weis and Scott (Pioli) and Thomas (Dimitroff). You saw what they could do when they got some of them back together (in Kansas City). I think that's what Scott wants to do — he wants to get the band back together. … Is Romeo the right coach? Maybe. The 'right' coach is a guy that really understands the plan from (Chiefs owner) Clark Hunt down to the guy opening the door in the building. Todd (Haley) and Scott did not fit well together. Scott needs a guy that fits. Josh and Romeo fit."


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