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BossChief 10-17-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9025491)
By the time he knows his shit, sure.

But it'll take him another season or so to get there and that's if he doesn't end up shell-shocked first.

Just because Luck and RGIII were turnkey QBs doesn't mean that we're going to get one in Smith, Barkley or whoever. There are far more guys like Eli Manning, Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco that take a couple years to get things ironed out than there are guys like RGIII.

Even Cam Newton had Steve Smith to chuck the ball downfield to last year.

Most quarterbacks, including the guys we now think of as elite, take a little time to get there. That time is significantly diminished by having people to throw to.

We have all seen the stills.

All of those guys can get open...its just that we have a QB that cant find them.

Not only would this move get us the unquestioned top pick in the draft, it would give us additional picks to add more targets if we deem that necessary.

There are currently 19 receivers on Walters that hold at least a second round grade.

DJ's left nut 10-17-2012 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9025486)
Probably been asked and answered, can Miami negotiate a deal with Bowe right now or do they have to wait until the end of the season as well?

RGIII is quite the outlier.

For what it's worth, though, Hankerson is a fine player, as is Santana Moss. Davis is a good pass-catching TE and Garcon is really going to be a big boost for RGIII (and proved it when he was healthy).

Oh, and lets not ignore the fact that RGIII is presently getting crushed a couple of times/wk because he's forced to run around when nobody can get open.

Even Andrew Luck has Reggie Wayne going out there and having a career season for him right now.

Young QBs absolutely need help to learn the ropes. When they're not young QBs anymore, they can make stars out of Victor Cruz, but they need guys to help them get there.

KCUnited 10-17-2012 03:50 PM

Is Bowe still a FA at the end of the year if he is traded mid-season? Can Miami do a trade and sign, or do they have to wait until the end of the season to do a deal?

Molitoth 10-17-2012 03:50 PM

Bowe is a good player for the Chiefs and he will be a GREAT player elsewhere.

I wish Bowe the best, I wouldn't want to be in this shithole either.

If we ever get a QB worth a shit, he will make whatever WR we have look good.

Agent V 10-17-2012 03:50 PM

Who says Pioli is going to take a quarterback with that extra pick (if he even gets a first)? Did he suddenly change his mind about everything ever?

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2012 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9025504)
Lol, they signed nothing too special. I don't even think the Chiefs receiveing core without Bowe is worse than the Skins.

Yeah, Garcon really sucks.

You're dumb.

The Bad Guy 10-17-2012 03:50 PM

Every time I see Jimmy Graham I just want to punch someone that Pioli traded up to get an injury prone player when he could have had Graham.

Strongside 10-17-2012 03:51 PM

I'm done with this piece of shit excuse for a professional football team. I'll pay attention again when I think we aren't being run by a bunch of ****ing Brain-Dead vegetables lying in a hospital bed waiting for aunt Edna to pull the plug. **** Scott. **** Clark. **** Romeo. **** Daboll. **** Matt Cassel. **** Eric Winston. **** Carl Peterson. And **** this fanbase for putting up with this shit for so long.

Simply Red 10-17-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9025193)
BlackBob just JIHP.

Can someone please tell me who BlackBob is!?!?!?!?!?

PLEASE?

BossChief 10-17-2012 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9025519)
Is Bowe still a FA at the end of the year if he is traded mid-season? Can Miami do a trade and sign, or do they have to wait until the end of the season to do a deal?

Thats an interesting question.

Can other teams negotiate with a franchised receiver even though we cant...or would they just need a handshake deal in place?

KCUnited 10-17-2012 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9025538)
Thats an interesting question.

Can other teams negotiate with a franchised receiver even though we cant...or would they just need a handshake deal in place?

It would certainly effect compensation. Why would Miami give up anything substantial for a guy who could walk at the end of the year?

FlaChief58 10-17-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9025515)
We have all seen the stills.

All of those guys can get open...its just that we have a QB that cant find them.



Yep, good/great QB's make everyone around them better.

Buckweath 10-17-2012 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9025509)
Then you're ****ing stupid.

This receiver core without Bowe is bar none the worst in the NFL.

Garcon before he broke his foot was going to be a monster.

Baldwin, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, Boss, Wylie would do fine with any decent QB. They right now can't amass stats because they are limited by dreadful QB play but with a decent QB, I'm confident they would be fine, especially Baldwin and McCluster could really flourish IMO.

The Bad Guy 10-17-2012 03:53 PM

Laz is probably downloading hundreds of pictures of girls in tight shorts and wacking off at a crazy pace after hearing the news Bowe could be leaving.

The Bad Guy 10-17-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9025547)
Baldwin, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, Boss, Wylie would do fine with any decent QB. They right now can't amass stats because they are limited by dreadful QB play but with a decent QB, I'm confident they would be fine, especially Baldwin and McCluster could really flourish IMO.

They would do better than they currently are, but that in no way is a core you want for a rookie QB.

keg in kc 10-17-2012 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9025548)
Laz is probably downloading hundreds of pictures of girls in tight shorts and wacking off at a crazy pace after hearing the news Bowe could be leaving.

Nah. He hasn't heard the news. That's just a regular Wednesday.

RunKC 10-17-2012 03:54 PM

This is actually a good move.

Bowe is worthless now. By the time a rookie QB develops, Bowe will be over 30 and leaving his prime.

Plus we want to go 1-15 right?! Bowe leaving is a HUGE step in that direction.

It is also another strike against Pioli that players don't want to play for his damn team anymore.

Extra high draft picks for a new GM next year along with a top 5 overall pick. Sounds great to me.

The Bad Guy 10-17-2012 03:54 PM

A lot of these guys can get open because of the presence of a guy like Bowe.

kushed god 10-17-2012 03:54 PM

I called it yesterday saying I could see Bowe going to MIAMI and look what's happening. In the off season he even put out a tweet saying he was coming to south beach...

The Bad Guy 10-17-2012 03:55 PM

Guys, if Pioli is trading a guy like Bowe, it means a lot for the future and none of it involves Pioli going anywhere.

CoMoChief 10-17-2012 03:55 PM

Regardless of what people think....Bowe isn't resigning here.

It's best to cut ties w/ the guy and get what we can out of him in case we do need use that pick to move up in the draft for Geno Smith

zimdogg 10-17-2012 03:56 PM

Heard this rumor has already been squashed.

FlaChief58 10-17-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kushed god (Post 9025556)
I called it yesterday saying I could see Bowe going to MIAMI and look what's happening. In the off season he even put out a tweet saying he was coming to south beach...

Hey look out y'all! we gots us a real madam cleo here

keg in kc 10-17-2012 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9025555)
A lot of these guys can get open because of the presence of a guy like Bowe.

And it also does not in any way mean we'll be predisposed to draft a QB.

Simply Red 10-17-2012 03:57 PM

http://i.imgur.com/8mg3w.jpg

DJ's left nut 10-17-2012 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 9025547)
Baldwin, Breaston, McCluster, Moeaki, Boss, Wylie would do fine with any decent QB. They right now can't amass stats because they are limited by dreadful QB play but with a decent QB, I'm confident they would be fine, especially Baldwin and McCluster could really flourish IMO.

Anyone that thinks McCluster will ever 'flourish' in this league immediately loses all credibility with me.

McCluster wouldn't flourish with Manning, Brees, Brady or Rodgers running the ship. He's simply doesn't do anything well.

ChiefsCountry 10-17-2012 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kushed god (Post 9025556)
In the off season he even put out a tweet saying he was coming to south beach...

He is from Miami you disphit.

jd1020 10-17-2012 03:57 PM

Not opposed to this.

Bowe obviously isn't going to re-sign in KC before he reaches FA.

If we can get a 2+ for him I'll be happy.

bevischief 10-17-2012 03:59 PM

JFC... F*** this team.

BadNewz 10-17-2012 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kushed god (Post 9025556)
I called it yesterday saying I could see Bowe going to MIAMI and look what's happening. In the off season he even put out a tweet saying he was coming to south beach...

In that tweet, he was talking about going to the Miami Heat game. Nostradumbass

jspchief 10-17-2012 03:59 PM

You know, after the initial anger of the first few games of the season, I had settled into a degree of amused apathy. I recognize what a dumpster fire this season is, yet still feel that the talent exists to keep this from become a decade long visit to the gutter of the league. Knowing that it will be nearly impossible for the FO to ignore the QB situation in the coming offseason has helped me to take this abortion of a season in stride. I watch the games without any particular emotion, not expecting anything spectacular and not being overly bothered when it all goes to hell.

But I have to say that if we start having a mother****ing fire sale over this trainwreck, I'm going to be pissed beyond description. There is no replacement for Bowe on this team, nor is there another more demanding need for the money that would be spent to keep him. Considering the product Clark is putting out at this time, I find it insulting that he would actually consider taking talent away from this roster for the sake of money.

Simply put, trading Bowe would tell me that what we as fans are currently experiencing isn't just a hurdle, but the path the organization has chosen for now and the future. Other than possibly an occasional joke, I've never been one to threaten to take my loyalties elsewhere. This move would test my resolve beyond anything I've experienced in my 25+ years of following this team.

Ghost of Maslowski 10-17-2012 04:00 PM

Trading Bowe at this point gives me the impression that Pioli is salting Arrowhead's earth.

DeezNutz 10-17-2012 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9025580)
You know, after the initial anger of the first few games of the season, I had settled into a degree of amused apathy. I recognize what a dumpster fire this season is, yet still feel that the talent exists to keep this from become a decade long visit to the gutter of the league. Knowing that it will be nearly impossible for the FO to ignore the QB situation in the coming offseason has helped me to take this abortion of a season in stride. I watch the games without any particular emotion, not expecting anything spectacular and not being overly bothered when it all goes to hell.

But I have to say that if we start having a mother****ing fire sale over this trainwreck, I'm going to be pissed beyond description. There is no replacement for Bowe on this team, nor is there another more demanding need for the money that would be spent to keep him. Considering the product Clark is putting out at this time, I find it insulting that he would actually consider taking talent away from this roster for the sake of money.

Simply put, trading Bowe would tell me that what we as fans are currently experiencing isn't just a hurdle, but the path the organization has chosen for now and the future. Other than possibly an occasional joke, I've never been one to threaten to take my loyalties elsewhere. This move would test my resolve beyond anything I've experienced in my 25+ years of following this team.

Good post. Where I'm at, too.

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2012 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9025553)
This is actually a good move.

Bowe is worthless now. By the time a rookie QB develops, Bowe will be over 30 and leaving his prime.

Plus we want to go 1-15 right?! Bowe leaving is a HUGE step in that direction.

It is also another strike against Pioli that players don't want to play for his damn team anymore.

Extra high draft picks for a new GM next year along with a top 5 overall pick. Sounds great to me.

LMAO

You're really ****ing stupid.

rabblerouser 10-17-2012 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 9025464)
So who did you see on TV? Because that Top 10 QB that you saw on TV is what a Top 10 QB looks like.

I should've clarified: in a Chiefs uniform.

The closest I've seen in my lifetime was Joe Montana when his jockstraps were made by Depends (figuratively speaking)

jspchief 10-17-2012 04:03 PM

And I swear to god. The people in here talking about getting Moore or throwing mental draft parties with the picks we could get makes me want to ****ing drop kick a sack of kittens. the obsession with picks on this board is beyond reeruned. This isn't franchise mode of Madden you ****ing imbeciles.

TheGuardian 10-17-2012 04:03 PM

Bowe, on a team with a REAL QB, is in the talk with the best WR's in the NFL. I don't really care if anyone agrees with that. The guys puts up big numbers with the worst crop of QB's in the entire NFL. If he were in Green Bay, NOLA, or NE you don't think he'd be putting up Megatron type numbers? Yeah, he would.

If we trade Bowe.........wow.

DaneMcCloud 10-17-2012 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9025594)
And I swear to god. The people in here talking about getting Moore or throwing mental draft parties with the picks we could get makes me want to ****ing drop kick a sack of kittens. the obsession with picks on this board is beyond reeruned. This isn't franchise mode of Madden you ****ing imbeciles.

But where would the Chiefs be right now without McCluster, Arenas, Moeaki, Brown, Menzie, Wylie, Allen, Stephenson, Baldwin, Bailey or Lewis?

-King- 10-17-2012 04:05 PM

Wow. Just wow. Pioli is going to kill this team before he leaves.

RealSNR 10-17-2012 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9025557)
Guys, if Pioli is trading a guy like Bowe, it means a lot for the future and none of it involves Pioli going anywhere.

Wait, so you think all that momentum leaning towards the Chiefs picking out a new GM is just hot air if he gets traded?

This is a miserable day. :(

whoman69 10-17-2012 04:05 PM

2nd round pick at best. If we are rebuilding we may have to also entertain trading Hali as well, even though he is under contract for the next three years. Hali will be 30 next year. If we don't get the top pick, we will need ammunition to move up.

The Franchise 10-17-2012 04:06 PM

I can only hope that Clark told Bowe that Pioli is on his way out.....and that Bowe was fed up enough to just demand a trade.

DJ's left nut 10-17-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGuardian (Post 9025599)
Bowe, on a team with a REAL QB, is in the talk with the best WR's in the NFL. I don't really care if anyone agrees with that. The guys puts up big numbers with the worst crop of QB's in the entire NFL. If he were in Green Bay, NOLA, or NE you don't think he'd be putting up Megatron type numbers? Yeah, he would.

If we trade Bowe.........wow.

Megatron? No.

But He'd be easily on that 2nd tier of acknowledged 'elite' guys. We'd hear him alongside Andre Johnson and not far behind Fitzgerald on the list of elite guys.

Calvin Johnson is in his own tier. He does everything (but block) just a little bit better than Bowe.

DeezNutz 10-17-2012 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9025607)
Wait, so you think all that momentum leaning towards the Chiefs picking out a new GM is just hot air if he gets traded?

This is a miserable day. :(

There's no question that if Pioli is allowed to make substantive decisions at this point, which trading Bowe definitely is, he's here for at least two more years. Guaranteed.

FlaChief58 10-17-2012 04:07 PM

I hate to say this but, if you look at teams who's owners want to sell the team, they do exactly what the Hunts are doing here in an effort to make as much money as possible before the sale.


Flame away

wazu 10-17-2012 04:07 PM

Cole is denying all of this on Twitter. Calling the report of his report false.

-King- 10-17-2012 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9025489)
Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

Can't blame him. RT @JasonColeYahoo I can report this: Bowe wants out of KC very badly. Not exactly a revelation, but true.

So uh... what's the suicide hotline number?


****! This team pisses me the **** off.

jd1020 10-17-2012 04:07 PM

Where is this rebuilding talk coming from?

Potentially trading 1 player who's playing on a 1 year franchise tag and unlikely to be here for 2013 unless he's tagged again.

Albert just made some coin.

ThaVirus 10-17-2012 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 9025608)
2nd round pick at best. If we are rebuilding we may have to also entertain trading Hali as well, even though he is under contract for the next three years. Hali will be 30 next year. If we don't get the top pick, we will need ammunition to move up.

Lets not get carried away here.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-17-2012 04:08 PM

Bowe isna't going anywhere.

As greedy as Pioli is...he will ask for something like 3 first rnd picks for him.

TheGuardian 10-17-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9025610)
Megatron? No.

But He'd be easily on that 2nd tier of acknowledged 'elite' guys. We'd hear him alongside Andre Johnson and not far behind Fitzgerald on the list of elite guys.

Calvin Johnson is in his own tier. He does everything (but block) just a little bit better than Bowe.

Yeah uh no. Calvin has ONE 1600+ yard season. The rest of his career?

1120
984
1331
756

Hardly some Jerry Rice in his prime type shit. And yes, numbers matter.

Titty Meat 10-17-2012 04:09 PM

Piolis dumbass will probably trade Bowe for Moore and. 5th. Moore will help take us out of the smith/Barkley race.

DeezNutz 10-17-2012 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9025617)
I hate to say this but, if you look at teams who's owners want to sell the team, they do exactly what the Hunts are doing here in an effort to make as much money as possible before the sale.


Flame away

Perfect. Sell. Move. Don't give a ****.

The Franchise 10-17-2012 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9025631)
Perfect. Sell. Move. Don't give a ****.

This.

ShortRoundChief 10-17-2012 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 9025580)
You know, after the initial anger of the first few games of the season, I had settled into a degree of amused apathy. I recognize what a dumpster fire this season is, yet still feel that the talent exists to keep this from become a decade long visit to the gutter of the league. Knowing that it will be nearly impossible for the FO to ignore the QB situation in the coming offseason has helped me to take this abortion of a season in stride. I watch the games without any particular emotion, not expecting anything spectacular and not being overly bothered when it all goes to hell.

But I have to say that if we start having a mother****ing fire sale over this trainwreck, I'm going to be pissed beyond description. There is no replacement for Bowe on this team, nor is there another more demanding need for the money that would be spent to keep him. Considering the product Clark is putting out at this time, I find it insulting that he would actually consider taking talent away from this roster for the sake of money.

Simply put, trading Bowe would tell me that what we as fans are currently experiencing isn't just a hurdle, but the path the organization has chosen for now and the future. Other than possibly an occasional joke, I've never been one to threaten to take my loyalties elsewhere. This move would test my resolve beyond anything I've experienced in my 25+ years of following this team.

While I agree with that statement, I disagree that is what is happening. I don't think Bowe is going to resign with us in any way, shape or form. This season is toast so we don't need him now. If he's not going to resign then we are going to lose him anyway. This way we get something for him.

DaWolf 10-17-2012 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9025630)
Piolis dumbass will probably trade Bowe for Moore and. 5th. Moore will help take us out of the smith/Barkley race.

Some scouts are now projecting Barkley as a second round talent, so we will probably never be out of that race...

HemiEd 10-17-2012 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HC_Chief (Post 9025263)
meh
We already need a GM, HC, QB, and WR. We need more speed on the outside; Bowe has been franchised twice. Makes sense. Considering his production, we should be able to get a good pick or two for him. Now is the right time to pull the trigger.

Once

tk13 10-17-2012 04:11 PM

Of course Bowe wants out. Carr wanted out, Orton never wanted to be here in the first place. People need to give up the dream. None of these guys were ever signing in KC. Manning and Jeff Fisher had no interest either. These guys all know what's up. It's pretty obvious.
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Hammock Parties 10-17-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9025617)
I hate to say this but, if you look at teams who's owners want to sell the team, they do exactly what the Hunts are doing here in an effort to make as much money as possible before the sale.

You're wrong.

It was reported just today that the Hunts feel they've been swindled by Scott Pioli.

BossChief 10-17-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 9025638)
Some scouts are now projecting Barkley as a second round talent, so we will probably never be out of that race...

those scouts should probably go fist their grandmother.

BigMeatballDave 10-17-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9025617)
I hate to say this but, if you look at teams who's owners want to sell the team, they do exactly what the Hunts are doing here in an effort to make as much money as possible before the sale.


Flame away

Nonsense.

You don't do 100s of millions in renovations to the stadium to move the team.

Discuss Thrower 10-17-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9025617)
I hate to say this but, if you look at teams who's owners want to sell the team, they do exactly what the Hunts are doing here in an effort to make as much money as possible before the sale.


Flame away

Careful, you'll engender some harsh words from people for asserting that.

The Franchise 10-17-2012 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9025646)
You're wrong.

It was reported just today that the Hunts feel they've been swindled by Scott Pioli.

Then this should push Hunt over the edge.

Titty Meat 10-17-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 9025638)
Some scouts are now projecting Barkley as a second round talent, so we will probably never be out of that race...

Link?

ChiefsCountry 10-17-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaWolf (Post 9025638)
Some scouts are now projecting Barkley as a second round talent, so we will probably never be out of that race...

ROFL

ChiefsCountry 10-17-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9025651)
Link?

He is full of shit.

Titty Meat 10-17-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9025646)
You're wrong.

It was reported just today that the Hunts feel they've been swindled by Scott Pioli.

Where?

BossChief 10-17-2012 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9025644)
Of course Bowe wants out. Carr wanted out, Orton never wanted to be here in the first place. People need to give up the dream. None of these guys were ever signing in KC. Manning and Jeff Fisher had no interest either. These guys all know what's up. It's pretty obvious.
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They also said today that Pioli was shot down by two head coaches in 2009 before hiring Haley.

Hammock Parties 10-17-2012 04:13 PM

@BenVolinPBP

A team source says the #Dolphins are NOT currently in trade talks with the #Chiefs for Dwayne Bowe

BigMeatballDave 10-17-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9025644)
Of course Bowe wants out. Carr wanted out, Orton never wanted to be here in the first place. People need to give up the dream. None of these guys were ever signing in KC. Manning and Jeff Fisher had no interest either. These guys all know what's up. It's pretty obvious.
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TRUTHBOMB!

Hammock Parties 10-17-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9025655)
Where?

610

ShortRoundChief 10-17-2012 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 9025655)
Where?

yeah where?

O.city 10-17-2012 04:16 PM

Heard what clay is talking about. Piolis done here. Players even know it. Most of them don't like cassel either

ShortRoundChief 10-17-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9025662)
610

I'm not trying to sound too picky here, but some details would be nice.

The Franchise 10-17-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9025656)
They also said today that Pioli was shot down by two head coaches in 2009 before hiring Haley.

Did they say what coaches?

bevischief 10-17-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whoman69 (Post 9025608)
2nd round pick at best. If we are rebuilding we may have to also entertain trading Hali as well, even though he is under contract for the next three years. Hali will be 30 next year. If we don't get the top pick, we will need ammunition to move up.

Stop giving them ideas...

Mr_Tomahawk 10-17-2012 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9025664)
Heard what clay is talking about. Piolis done here. Players even know it. Most of them don't like cassel either

Heard what and from where?

tk13 10-17-2012 04:17 PM

I've said that all offseason. Especially Orton. He was flying rumors to the press to say he wouldn't report to KC so Pioli wouldn't claim him. He never wanted to be in KC. That's why Routt was signed so early... they knew Carr was out the door. People just don't want to believe it.
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BossChief 10-17-2012 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9025667)
Did they say what coaches?

no

R8RFAN 10-17-2012 04:18 PM

Shit, get something for him while you can


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