Likewise.

I think a lot of you are underestimating the general immaturity of high schoolers in this generation, they are, by far, my most despised demographic. The tables are generally trashed, (ketchup on the tables, food on the floors, etc.) and a lot of the kids seem to make a game out of treating the server with complete contempt.

What it comes down to is that the majority of high school customers are there on their parents' bank account and have no concept of what it's like to hold a job.

Rant over, flame away.

People like this piss me off! Single mom or not, if you're going to drop that much dough on dinner, be prepared to tip.

My rule is this...

Excellent service = 20%
Good service = 15%
Meh service = 5-10%
Holy crap... that service sucked! = 0% + contact management

There is an exception to my rule though. Like when I took my son to Village Inn a few months back. The service wasn't just excellent, but when the waitress handed me the check, she and I conversed for some time about kids and such. She was a single mom w/ 4 kids and Village Inn was her 3rd job.

I ended up tipping her 40%.

They don't have any money.

Was she black?

And if she was?

Her skin pigment would be darker.

If the service is really bad I'll still leave a tip, but I'll only round up to the next dollar. If you live a $0.60 tip then you're telling the server they did a shit job. You leave nothing then you come off as the asshole...assuming of course the server is the least bit self-aware.

Although something about this story has me really skeptical. Maybe it's because its from reddit. But there's no itemized receipt. Could there have been a gratuity included in the $138 bill? It's possible. If that's the case then I don't think you really need to tip on top of it. Did the server do a bad job? Did the person leave a cash tip in lieu of a tip on the credit slip, I do that so that the server doesn't have to claim the tip and pay taxes on it.

Auto gratuity is there to protect the server from getting shafted on a big group. You can be the best server in the world and still get stiffed by some cheap ass. If you've got a table of 12 people and they stiff you it's like getting stiffed by 3 tables of 4. At least if you're stiffed by one of the smaller tables you're not out 20 or 30 bucks.

So I guess dine and dash is out of the question.

easy to say when you aren't the one working for free.

LMAO

The majority of them have their parents' money and no job (and therefore no appreciate of those who serve them.)

It would be really cool if this were the same single mom.

She took advice from Michael Jordan.

This and if you ever find the Unicorn that is good service at bw3's then report back to us.

:shrug: I've never had a problem there aside from the fact that the servers never have any clue what the beer selection is.

If you don't have the funds, don't go out.

It's pretty simple... I really don't understand the contingent of people who think it's ok to spend the only 50 bucks (or in this case 140) they have on a meal without the ability to compensate someone who does nothing but take their shit.

I only say this because I know I am a handful when I take the family out and I know I make the server's job difficult at times because I'm incredibly picky, but I do so with the intention of rewarding them at the end of the meal. I almost always give 25-30% unless they really haven't got a clue and don't seem to care about it..

Just my 2 cents

If you are good at serving, getting stiffed happens once in a blue moon (hence the need for this whiny server to make a dramatic internet post about it).

If you suck at serving, maybe it will provide a nice incentive to work hard and find a job you are better suited for.

The tip would be printed on the slip if it were an auto grat. And the message would simply say "cash" or "table" or nothing if cash were left.

I once had a gal break down into tears while telling me she is a single mother and hadn't planned on spending $40 for her and her kids to eat after I told her that the coupon she was trying to use did not work with the daily special she had ordered. I shit you not, the woman straight up starts bawling at the table and tells me to just go away.

It is very easy for me to take this picture at face value. People these days have no shame.

Fake, handwriting isn't the same.

That said, don't go out to eat if you can't afford it. Tipping is part of the deal, but some people are jerks about it.

Don't become a server if you can't afford to do so as well. Here's a tip for all servers. This kind of crap is always going to happen. You either get stiffed or get less than what you think you earned. Deal with it like the rest of us that think we are underpaid at our jobs and move on.

Some people don't have the mental make-up to be a server; i.e. serving people.

don't support restaurants that pay people $2 per hour. Don't take it out on someone who is trying to make an honest living even if you feel that person is beneath you. That's my opinion.

What the restaurant pays their people is not something I have any way of knowing. Nor would I care. That's none of my business.

How is this thread so long? Tipping 20% on good service is plain human decency.

If you can't afford to tip 20% on food then you can't afford to dine out. Period.

This thread gets like this every time someone creates it. And the same thing is said each time.

If you can afford to pay the bill you can afford to eat there provided you have no qualms about not tipping. Tipping is not a legal requirement, it's a social contract into which some choose not to enter.

I you go to eat somewhere and the food is inexpensive, say, less than $17 and entree, then don't forgo the tip because the food sucks. That's not the servers fault, its yours. Buffalo WW, Applebees, places like that, are average at best, so don't be pissed when you get an average meal. I hate when people tell me they went to a place like that and were bummed that the food sucked. What the hell do you think it's gonna be?

How else does the consumer send the message?

by not eating there again. the server didn't make the food, create the menu, or purchase the ingredients. Poor service reflects on the server. Poor food reflects on the rest of the restuarant. I go to places like bw3 to watch college ball once in a while. It's a sports bar, so I expect sports bar food. I'm not gonna screw the server because the schlep flipping burgers doesn't know how to make shitty beef taste good.

By informing the manager, filling out a response sheet, or letting the server know. Lashing out against the server makes little to no sense in this scenario.

I like to tip 9 cents...to let them know the service wasn't worth a dime.

ok, maybe the server is throwing a tantrum, but it doesn't justify this customer running up a $138 tab, then trying to claim she is too hard up for money to leave a tip at all. that gives justification to the melt down, and honestly, if it were me things would have gone further. i might have lost my job over it. i guarantee this server remembers the customer's face, and if she tries to come back to the establishment, she will receive terrible service. in this country, tips are expected for good service, and if the service was great, like the note says, there is no excuse for this.

Minimum tip and not coming back is probably the most sensible response here. I'm not taking my time to call a manager over or fill out some sort of form.

Well, the only concern here is that I'm almost always able to comp a part of my customer's ticket if they bring the issue up with me. I suppose I'm just passionate about this issue because we had a batch of new cooks about a year ago who were producing unsatisfactory dishes a couple times during each of my shifts, but whenever this circumstance arises, I always do whatever within my ability to make sure that the problem is addressed for the customer.

Never caught it. You're right. The handwriting is different. The server wrote that in.

A lot of other ways. Of course depends on your problem with the place. If it is an attitude customer treatment type issue that is isolated to the server then yes do the no or little tip thing.

However there are often a lot of things that come up that are out of the servers hands.

It'd be like SOC directing their ire at the guys who collect money for parking instead of Pioli.

I don't know what would cause the server to write that in particular. I'm guessing the woman mentioned it as an excuse. : shrug:

Are you really this dense?

THIS and I can't say it enough. There is no group more obnoxious than high schoolers these days.

Sure, often times they don't. Also, most of them are too young to work so they just simply don't know the value of a dollar or about tipping in general. For that, I look at them like I do foreigners. It pisses me off that I get stiffed by them, but in the end, they're just ignorant to the whole process.

.. But if you're a ****ing American, aged 24-45 and you're a shitty tipper, you can die a slow, syphilis-induced death.