So sad. I wonder if this ends up being another head trauma issue ala Seau?

Crennel saw it happen...?!?!

Cancel, no.

But the chiefs could and should forfeit it. Too much money to be lost though, Clark will trot them out there and the Chiefs PR team will tweet about Silers first NFL start since whenever.

Don't care. If this had been my brother I wouldn't care. He's a murderer, and has left his child montherless. **** him.

Too much $$$$$$ at stake, trust me

I would assume that the players are meeting offsite and being brought in by the white vans for a team meeting.

I don't know what to say.

If true, endangering more people.

Holy shit

Again, I'm so sorry. Sudden tragedy like this is so shocking and rocks you to the core when it's someone you know. Especially at this time of year. Something even more sad about tragic death during this time of year. I think of the families who will always carry this burden of their loved one's death during this time of year.

For what? A selfish person who took the life of his child's mother and then killed himself? There is no reason for a tribute.

Benjamin Allbright ‏@NFLDraftMonster

Before I go, if the NFL forces the Chiefs to show up tomorrow, and I were the Chiefs. I'd simply take a knee and walk off the field.

It's a rumor that hasn't been confirmed, I think? That's all I can gather.

Jesus. :(

Maybe if he didn't MURDER someone!

I don't know how they can play the game.

The coaching and management must bear some blame in this. For all their talk of leadership, they should have. Seen that something was wrong and interceded prior to this point. The story is running on nfl network, just the same nonspecific report that was here.

Well you are a unique individual. Congrats on your heart of stone.

I just don't know.

Was he suicidal before and randomly killed someone beforehand? Or did he just take the cowards way out not wanting to face the music for what he did?

He's still a murderer.

Again, we never got into personal stuff. WE have the same car and he called me when he got his supercharged, we talked about normal shit. WE never talked about ball or personal life that much. Just normal shit. He def didn't let on that he was having personal issues with his girl. He always seemed happy as hell with her.

I understand your position....however....I could NEVER understand the pain that a person is in to actually kill themself...or another. CAN NOT IMAGINE....so I would not attempt to judge him.

I'm starting to wonder if this happened inside the facility. Reports had said it was in the parking lot.

I'm not seeing any yellow tape, officers, crime scene investigators, etc. in the lot.

See post #210

Worst season ever. Prayers go out to his and her family. What a sick dude.

It's hilarious to think the NFL would even consider canceling the game...people aren't that dense, are they?

Last Boy Scoutish

You have to tell Jacksonville to travel. Because they can't make the decision yet. Still too new. And the logistics of travel are too tight to tell them to hold off. So you have send them on the plane now and have them fly back if they have to.

Shut the hell up dave,..he just watched one of his players shoot himself.

Wow, that is ****ed. Not only do you think of Junior Seau with the brain damage, but also Chris Benoit who did a murder suicide a few years back. Head traumas and possible drug abuse (whether steroids or pain killers) could certainly have played a role in all three cases. Who knows? Regardless, so crazy.

True.


I overreacted...it's all just ****ed up.

This.

Seriously? No posts for a week, but something tragic happens and you rush to the forum and you've got 9 posts already in this thread. Just STFU and go away already.

You don't have to cancel the game. Just push it to Week 17 Thursday night. After the final MNF game, just before the wildcard weekend.

Just move the order.

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing. Does anyone know what time this happened?

The shock of this brings back the news of Joe Delany untiemly death - except he was a true hero saving the drowning boys. What a terrible thing this is . . .

crennel and pioli have a lot of guts/balls if its true they met face to face after he already killed someone

thats a huge risk, essentially their own lives and that takes a lot of something.

Shocking and very sad, prayers out to the families

Yeah the NFL didn't even cancel after 9/11. The Chiefs should forfeit the game though

You're a ****ing idiot. You have no clue what the ****ing guy was going through. It's more then likely beyond your assumptions. Just shut the **** up.

Eat a bag of rotten dicks

This. Please dispense with the nonsense on this thread. For one day in this one thread.

:facepalm:

Shameful to think there would be any type of tribute.

sorry to hear this kc fans, very tragic, very disturbing. I'm not sure what will happen in the immediate future but football just doesn't seem real important now.

Good point, if they knew he had killed his wife already.

yes by all means, lets make this about typical,stupid bullshit.


maybe he killed his girlfriend and himself because Pioli made him pick up a gum wrapper.



idiot

Belcher?

Yes, he is. For, what, a half hour of his life he may have snapped and became a murderer. For the rest of his life he might have been a good person especially to those who loved him. Maybe not. Maybe he was OJII. All I am saying is that his life's ending is tragic for many people out there and, although you may not feel empathy or sympathy FOR or TOWARDS him, those who loved him deserve it because they will suffer due to his actions.

This!

No Inmem58, Belcher does deserve some backlash for this no matter what he may be going through. He still carried out the act and is a damn coward in the end.

It's callous but a bottomline thought, Pioli may resign over this shit too.

I know it's a dehumanizing thought, but I'm just saying.

I could not possibly care less about Pioli.

This is awful, what a horrible situation. I don't see how the players are going to want to play tomorrow.

This

I have absolutely zero respect for Belcher for how he decided to end things. No amount of trouble is worth someone's life or your own life. Not to mention, now his daughter will never know she had a father and mother. This is the absolute worst thing he could've done.

Pass. I'm sure YOURS would be in it. ROFL

Right around 8:00.

Just saw a report that it happened near the front door to the facility, and that police were parking their cars when they heard the gunshot.

I'm speechless. Such a tragic thing. This sort of thing happens every day but pro athletes are on a greater stage than others...It's a sad realization.

PBJ

Agreed.

What the **** does Jacksonville have to do with anything?

Totally agree. Its sad all the way around. Holy **** the torment he had to have felt after killing someone. I can't even imagine and never want to.

RIP Jovan. Stupid stupid stupid.

Nope, you never what people are going through behind closed doors. I don't judge like that.

you're an asshole, we get it.

HE'S DEAD. Whatever the team does it will be for the survivors to help ease their grief. INCLUDING HIS TEAMMATES. I'm certain they will speak with his family, the NFL, and their marketing people to determine what they will do in regards to honoring this person.

He hasn't been around too long so I don't think it will be much. Not like Steve McNair who died in what I suspect was a similar situation. McNair had achieved a great deal in his NFL career and a tribute was warranted.

Sure you don't have have to judge but still doesn't make it right.

Just ****ing wow. Feel sorry for the gir's family...can;t say I feel sorry for Belcher. What a chicken shit

Fescoe just ****ed up and said Belchers name

According to Danny Parkins:

Police no longer at the scene
Player shot himself once police arrived on the scene

this

It's hard to rationalize such an irrational act. And it's equally hard to feel sorry for someone who takes the cowards way out and worse, takes someone with him.

I think we draft Teo now. My heart goes out to the family of the victim and the Chiefs community.

Parkins responds "did you just say the players name?" Fescoe then said no we didn't say the name

Less of one than Scott.

I know you love him.

We can't fly the banner tomorrow.

There's a huge difference between suffering yourself and choosing to spread that suffering to uncountable others...

Or the torment and/or anger to actually kill his significant other!! My soon to be ex has been living with another man for 6 months, I am too broke to finalize our divorce but I wouldn't even consider personal harm to her. NOR MYSELF!!!! I can not begin to understand his angst....nor will I rush to ANY judgement! Just sorrow.

JC, wow... Just wow! So sad!

Really? Go **** yourself and everyone that looks like you. That is a valid concern douche

I'm pretty much in shock.

This is horrible.

The franchise just hit rock bottom.

I think we should fly one.

Not about Pioli or the team but one of support (if time allows...)

Agreed....we need to show a little class