Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9179139)

Lamar Hunt had been suffering from cancer for almost a decade before he passed away. Carl Peterson was in charge of the Chiefs at that time and made an executive decision to draft LJ. Vermeil wanted Tyler Brayton and expressed that publicly.

I honestly believe that if Lamar Hunt was aware of Johnson's transgressions, he would not have been drafted. I also believe that if Clark Hunt, who at the time had little to noting to do with the Chiefs had known, Johnson wouldn't have been selected.

Originally Posted by pkane (Post 9179671)

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Till 1am or 7am. I don't think its normal to leave a 2.5 month old with the babysitter until those hours.

Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 9179676)

you probably didnt have to work at 930 in the morning the next day when u went out though.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 9179681)

So you think that the Hunts didn't know about Larry Johnson (their star player and first round draft pick) and his very public run-ins with the law, but they knew enough about Jovan Belcher (an UDFA JAG from Maine) to think that a murder-suicide was in the cards?

Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179659)

His mother (who just came into town) was with the baby, and probably having a ball doing it.

Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179659)

I went out without my kids after they were born. It is normal.

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9179661)

That was kind of my point earlier this morning.

And it isn't just this board.

The fanbase is fractured. The tipping point HAS to be right around the corner.

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9179287)

My original statement was that "the Hunt family doesn't tolerate people like Belcher."

They don't.

Larry Johnson's ass was cut as soon as he showed he wasn't worth putting up with.

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179691)

I have the feeling that his mom moved in with Kasi from NY specifically because neither one of then were capable of rearing a child.



When you sent out, did you stay out until 7AM when you had to be at work that morning?? Did you get so shithouse drunk that you passed out in your car??

Not being self-righteous; just pointing out a pattern of irresponsible behavior that could have been completely avoided had either (or both!!) had the basic common human decency of staying home with their kid. Not to mention going to meetings and walk-through.

It just seems like no one has personal accountability anymore; call it self-righteous, whatever...but I have not killed my daughter's mother. And I won't. We didn't get along so much after she was born...and we got a ****ing divorce.

Like 'normal' people.

I didn't kill her. Call that 'self-righteous' if you want, I guess...

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179629)

Well, at least those two weren't.

It's absolutely true; Ol' Kasi shouldn't have been at some crappy Rhyme N' Bass lusty soft-porn sleaze fest, and Daddy Jovan shouldn't have been out getting drunk and chasing the muff around.

At 1AM, with a 3-month old baby...any decent human beings would have been home asleep with their kid. Especially when one of them has to be at the team facility in a few hours for a team meeting then a walkthrough.

Like, you'd think Belcher would've wanted to be home with his daughter and get rested up so he could put all his energy into trying to win an upcoming game...but in reality, fans probably care more about the games than the majority of players (like Belcher.)

Hate to sound callous, but **** Jovan and Kasi. Selfish fools, natural selection's a bitch. Stay home with your kid, get rested for work. 'Hanging in da club' is about the most ridiculous crock of horseshit anyway. Trey Songz is ****ing terrible; generic, sophmoric digitized BS that is literally about nothing more than intercourse (every. single. song.) If you have no culture, no couth...if you watch garbage, listen to garbage and do garbage thigs, your life will probably be garbage, too.

Stay home with your kids, go to bed early, act like a real family, ****. In America, it's 'cool' to NOT be close to your family, 'do your own thing, be your own person, etc.' There is no personal accountability. Jovan and Kasi were a couple of ****ing idiots, living a hollow, bullshit life - so selfish, that even WITH their ample financial resources, they weren't capable of taking care of a child. Probably why Belcher's mom was there in the first place.

****ing losers.

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 9179699)

Yes they have\do.

The only reason LJ was released was because he sucked if he was still playing at a high level they would have kept him around. They kept Dale Carter around, heck half of the 98 Chiefs team was thugs.

Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179686)

She was his mother, not a babysitter.

Aggrandizement of the situation. As I said, Grandma probably loved being with the child.

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179709)

LJ was cut after the Twitter incident...and because he sucked.

Dale Carter was getting in trouble from the moment he got here.

Bam, Tamarick, Andre Rison, Chet McGlockton, Dan Williams, Snoop Minnis...

The Hunts have had some total shitheads come through here.

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9179287)

My original statement was that "the Hunt family doesn't tolerate people like Belcher."

They don't.

Larry Johnson's ass was cut as soon as he showed he wasn't worth putting up with.

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9179090)

The world I live in? I'm college educated. I dated a licensed medical social worker for years that dealt with similar trauma.

I'm not some teenager experiencing life throw the glass eyes lens for the first time. I'm 47 ****ing years old and have seen more shit firsthand in this regard than I hope you'll see in your lifetime.

Originally Posted by pkane (Post 9179712)

You're right, she probably did. She also probably didn't appreciate the parents of the kid being out until 1 or 7. Then again she could be there to take care of the kid because the actual parents were to immature.

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179702)

So if Trey Songz didn't suck in your opinion, it would have been OK? And why did it have to be a "Rhyme N' Bass lusty soft-porn sleaze fest"? If you don't like black music, that's your choice but the kind of concert she went to had nothing to do with Jovan staying out until 7AM and blasting her...

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9179707)

Jesus, it's like Dr. Drew meets The View in here.

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179629)

Well, at least those two weren't.

It's absolutely true; Ol' Kasi shouldn't have been at some crappy Rhyme N' Bass lusty soft-porn sleaze fest, and Daddy Jovan shouldn't have been out getting drunk and chasing the muff around.

At 1AM, with a 3-month old baby...any decent human beings would have been home asleep with their kid. Especially when one of them has to be at the team facility in a few hours for a team meeting then a walkthrough.

Like, you'd think Belcher would've wanted to be home with his daughter and get rested up so he could put all his energy into trying to win an upcoming game...but in reality, fans probably care more about the games than the majority of players (like Belcher.)

Hate to sound callous, but **** Jovan and Kasi. Selfish fools, natural selection's a bitch. Stay home with your kid, get rested for work. 'Hanging in da club' is about the most ridiculous crock of horseshit anyway. Trey Songz is ****ing terrible; generic, sophmoric digitized BS that is literally about nothing more than intercourse (every. single. song.) If you have no culture, no couth...if you watch garbage, listen to garbage and do garbage thigs, your life will probably be garbage, too.

Stay home with your kids, go to bed early, act like a real family, ****. In America, it's 'cool' to NOT be close to your family, 'do your own thing, be your own person, etc.' There is no personal accountability. Jovan and Kasi were a couple of ****ing idiots, living a hollow, bullshit life - so selfish, that even WITH their ample financial resources, they weren't capable of taking care of a child. Probably why Belcher's mom was there in the first place.

****ing losers.

Originally Posted by KCWolfman (Post 9179701)

You are being self righteous. Look at your first sentence. You are judge and jury about their family life and the supposed need of his mother to watch the child with no proof other than your gut feeling. That is the very definition of self righteous.

I have stayed out until 7 am and gone to work. I was not drunk though. Again you are assuming he was.

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179733)

first off, I play bass in a blues band. For you to say I don't like black music is blitheringly ignorant.

Second...check out some Trey Songz live youtube videos, and try to tell me that it ISN'T soft-core porn, medicore rhyme-n-bass with lyrics about nothing but intercourse...

Third, the type of music, literature, entertainment, art, etc. that a person incorporates into their lives, their daily being, has a total impact on how you live a person lives their lives.

Most family people in an office job wearing a 3-piece don't listen to, say, Insane Clown Posse. Why?? Because it doesn't appeal to them.

There is a definte correlation, and it is not self-righteous. I like to party. I just don't agree with this dumbed-down and sexed-up culture, the hedonistic lifestyle of sex and drugs and 'do what you want because it's all about YOU - YOUR moment!'

No, I'm accountable to several other people, and myself. Call it self-righteous if you want. Call it whatever you want...but I'm able to sleep at night.

For sure don't stay out until 7AM then shoot my daughter's mother.

Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 9179741)

I'm with you on the last part I felt the same way when I heard that Patricia Lagaretta and Jamie Rohrs had a four month old and four year old at a midnight screaming of the The Dark Knight Rises. Who takes a child that young to see a movie at midnight let alone a movie like that? And no one in their right mind takes a four month old baby to that same movie. Yet, they were there.

I also got a glimpse of that on a smaller scale this summer in KC at Livestrong. Where I saw four babies all infants in the Cauldron. One was four weeks old. The Cauldron is a place where people get very excited, sometimes too excited. Sometimes beer is thrown. It's always loud and then there are the fireworks before the game. But there are these 20 something kids with their infants hanging off their shoulders.

I don't think young people with infants need to live like the Amish but when did it become acceptable to put your kid at risk or a second priority behind your entertainment needs? Rather, wants.

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179748)

Blues? BWAHAHAHAH!!! Women are scantily clad in white performers videos also. Trey is not a dynamic singer but you don't have to be these days unfortunately. I have no issue with the women in the videos. Stop with the type of music you listen to shaping your life. You would be surprised who listens to what.....

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179760)

love how you try and make this about race...

Racist.

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179767)

Don't be so narrow minded to think that the music you listen to makes you better than anyone else...or that certain people in certain professions don't listen to certain music. You are naïve...

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179770)

None of us are perfect and without sin

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179756)

Personally, I like looking at the soft porn in videos....and don't tell me you wouldn't "hit it" Be real...When Britney Spears was shaking dat ass in the videos, you liked it didn't you? Don't lie..

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9179774)

however, some of us are closer to perfect and have much less sin

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9179773)

take a survey

i'm willing to bet that the results back him up

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179778)

Dude...I quit watching MTV long before Britney Spears came on.

Plus, my girlfriend is hot as ****...my ex-wife (hate to admit it) still hot as ****...my high-school girlfriend, etc. You get the idea.

Don't watch porn; ain't got time and double don't care. As far as the 'you'd hit it' remark...you'd be surprised. I turn down offers left and right. I've probably turned down better pussy than most dudes even get a crack at...and that ain't me bragging, it's God's honest truth.

I don't just bang chicks because they're hot; I take the whole thing seriously - love, honor, respect, the whole bit. It's not a ****ing game, peoples lives, emotions, bodies...they aren't just toys. They aren't useful alternatives to masterbation, some kind of false illusion of intimacy to cover up how hollow my life is.

See, I'm actually growing up, becoming an adult. And learning how to be a real man.

Just because I'm young doesn't mean I have to be ****ing stupid.

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179781)

They do.

The only people that would get defensive about it are the people who resemble my remarks...

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179756)

Personally, I like looking at the soft porn in videos....and don't tell me you wouldn't "hit it" Be real...When Britney Spears was shaking dat ass in the videos, you liked it didn't you? Don't lie..

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179731)

I guarantee you the person who said "Rhyme and Bass soft porn sleaze fest" doesn't want Geno Smith......just sayin....

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179778)

Dude...I quit watching MTV long before Britney Spears came on.

Plus, my girlfriend is hot as ****...my ex-wife (hate to admit it) still hot as ****...my high-school girlfriend, etc. You get the idea.

Don't watch porn; ain't got time and double don't care. As far as the 'you'd hit it' remark...you'd be surprised. I turn down offers left and right. I've probably turned down better pussy than most dudes even get a crack at...and that ain't me bragging, it's God's honest truth.

I don't just bang chicks because they're hot; I take the whole thing seriously - love, honor, respect, the whole bit. It's not a ****ing game, peoples lives, emotions, bodies...they aren't just toys. They aren't useful alternatives to masterbation, some kind of false illusion of intimacy to cover up how hollow my life is.

See, I'm actually growing up, becoming an adult. And learning how to be a real man.

Just because I'm young doesn't mean I have to be ****ing stupid.

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179782)

I'm comfortably married but I am also realistic on how the male species is wired. We are visual and always will be......

Originally Posted by memyselfI (Post 9179787)

Well there is a tad bit TMI in that post but it does sound like you are a young man I'd want around my sons or daughter.

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9179785)

The real question is...

Britney:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me...d2lno6_250.gif

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdd0aimiQj1ryjwc0.gif

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_md...36muo1_400.gif

or Christina:

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb...pa29o3_250.gif
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb...7u9io1_400.gif

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb...7u9io1_500.gif

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179793)

You'd not have much to worry about.

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 9179798)

You and meme make a nice couple.

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179779)

Wow....

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179797)

Both....but damn, Christina was sexy. Keep it real fellas, that shit is sexy as hell....come on, where are the real men at in here.....I know how to separate looking and acting on it....

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9179809)

? It's the truth. Some people do lots of bad things and some people don't.

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9179809)

? It's the truth. Some people do lots of bad things and some people don't.

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179808)

Would you be mad if she went to a Christina Aguilera or Britney concert? Seems like those snippets fit your description of the concert over the weekend...

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179814)

Understood but it has nothing to do with music. I'm sure there are some evil mothafukkas that listen to Jazz...

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179814)

Understood but it has nothing to do with music. I'm sure there are some evil mothafukkas that listen to Jazz...

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179811)

so that's what 'real men' do??

Don't honor the women in our lives (in whatever capacity they may be in), but totally objectify them and demean them instead of honoring and protecting.

As a society, and as men, we have failed our women completely.

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179812)

I don't care what you say, that last gif of Aguilera has me stuck........

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179778)

Dude...I quit watching MTV long before Britney Spears came on.

Plus, my girlfriend is hot as ****...my ex-wife (hate to admit it) still hot as ****...my high-school girlfriend, etc. You get the idea.

Don't watch porn; ain't got time and double don't care. As far as the 'you'd hit it' remark...you'd be surprised. I turn down offers left and right. I've probably turned down better pussy than most dudes even get a crack at...and that ain't me bragging, it's God's honest truth.

I don't just bang chicks because they're hot; I take the whole thing seriously - love, honor, respect, the whole bit. It's not a ****ing game, peoples lives, emotions, bodies...they aren't just toys. They aren't useful alternatives to masterbation, some kind of false illusion of intimacy to cover up how hollow my life is.

See, I'm actually growing up, becoming an adult. And learning how to be a real man.

Just because I'm young doesn't mean I have to be ****ing stupid.

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9179819)

Gus Fring
http://howsyourrobot.com/wp-content/...Gus_Fring1.jpg

Originally Posted by The Iron Chief (Post 9179800)

Belcher’s mother, who came from New York to live with her son so the couple could work through their issues, didn’t hear much of the argument. But just before 8 a.m., she heard her son say something to the effect of: “You can’t talk to me like that!”


Wow I gotta hope the wife and I never get into such a Heated arguement and one of us lets forth a yell from the depths of hell.. “You can’t talk to me like that!”

I'm not sure why this struck me odd.

I expected to hear they were pushing each other around she scratched him he knocked her down screaming to wake the neighbors..who shes been screwing..
As we all know now he just wasn't mentally right in the least hes a murderer and his child now parentless will know the truth at some point.a pain that will last a life time this isnt the kind of thing time heals.
Hes a coward

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179830)

Yep, and I know there are some sick twisted mofos who listen to Opera as well....so stop with the bullshit

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179830)

Yep, and I know there are some sick twisted mofos who listen to Opera as well....so stop with the bullshit

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9179001)

This guy's personal life honestly sounds WORSE than Larry Johnson's.

I hate to bring football into this but this is a black, black mark on Pioli's ledger.

There's no way this kind of person should have been playing football for the CHIEFS of all teams.

The Hunt family doesn't tolerate people like Belcher.

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179835)

Please post that Christina gif again........I can't get enough.......LOL!!!!!

Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9179842)

We got a guy throwing 70 yards in the air in here, fellas.

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9179843)

Of course there are. There are exceptions to everything. Also, not everyone that listens to crap IS crap...but I'm almost certain there is some sort of correlation. If lyrics about a particular lifestyle appeal to you, there might be a reason for that. And yeah, I know that evil white corporate men listen to classical or whatever.

Originally Posted by Driving Wheel (Post 9179811)

so that's what 'real men' do??

Don't honor the women in our lives (in whatever capacity they may be in), but totally objectify them and demean them instead of honoring and protecting.

As a society, and as men, we have failed our women completely.

Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9179845)

Originally Posted by ARROW2 (Post 9179814)

Understood but it has nothing to do with music. I'm sure there are some evil mothafukkas that listen to Jazz...

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9179851)

In all fairness, women have played a pretty big role in that.