Reid is overrated -- just look at how much better McNabb became when he went to Washington and Minnesota.

JFC who let the Philly noobs out of Larned???

I'll let you handle the first part, but will pay you handsomely for the second.

What does your 14 history have to do with the Chiefs front office set-up?

Nothing.

John Dorsey at his intro press conference: "I will have final say on personnel matters".

No one is saying that Andy Reid is the perfect HC. All HC's have flaws.

But I'll take my chances with Andy Reid compared with the likes of Chip Kelly.

Memo to Eagles fans:

You have expressed your opinion (bitterness) towards Andy Reid. No one cares. Move on.

Deal. Just a rack of your best BBQ is all I ask for in return.

Fair enough. I am more than happy (elated, actually) to take my chances with Chip Kelly. We'll settle this next season.

Your FO. Part of the Reid deal.

Times yours.

Narnia's gates have busted open and out have spilled a sea of douchebaggery onto Chiefsplanet.

Oh I loved that film, what a wonderful closet!

Give them 2 years. AR was 5-11 in 1999 before his awesome 5 year run. I can't imagine he'd turn it around much this year. But I guess 5-11 would be a vast improvement for KC.

Similar to the one that you have yet to come out of, I'm sure.

True. This will take several years to shake out. Kelly has inherited quite a mess with the Birds.

So I like dicks, is that a crime hatemonger?

I don't even want to think about it.

When 1 play is CONSTANTLY the difference between winning and losing, the coach isn't putting them in a position to win.

Luck is once or twice.

OVER TEN TIMES IS A TREND.

You're not getting a break. It was 100% Marty and that's a fact.

You are.

The owner could fire him at any time, just like Clark fired Scott Pioli.

Face it, he's still on the staff because the OWNER wants him, not Andy Reid.

Some are bitter. I am not. I'm giving you the FACTS. Reid is a freakin' bonehead at times and you will be sitting on your couch wondering WTF just happened??! at least 3 times a game. But I understand he's new and shiny to you so there's a honeymoon period. It seems like all you wanna do is bash chip kelly when you, nor I know what he will become. I have 14 years of Andy as my head coach, that's what I have.

Granted, he was the winningest coach in Eagles history, I won't deny him of what he did here. Keep us competitive for a large portion of the time, but wasn't able to get us over the hump, even with our best team under him in 2004. That was HIS ineptitude in the Super bowl. oh, and the cheating pats.

Here's the thing.

We already KNOW the FACTS.

We don't need you to come here and offer sympathy. We don't need you to come here, period.

For someone who likes to study history, as you claim to do with the past 14 years of the Eagles history, you are obviously blind to the history of college coaches jumping to the NFL without any prior NFL experience.

The track record for their success is terrible. The last HC to successfully go from college to the NFL without any prior NFL experience is Jimmy Johnson.

To make matters worse, Chip Kelly does not have the benefit of working with a competent GM.

Those are terrible odds for success.

Absolutely. He would never have risen through the ranks if Reid didn't permit it, though. This was Reid's empire. If he didn't like you, you were gone. It's as simple as that.

Oh well. I guess we'll see. Our owner had the foresight to hire Andy Reid which, according to you, was a terrific decision. So I'd figure you'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

No. What you KNOW is what ESPN and the Chiefs organization has spoonfed you.

You do a LOT of assuming. And you know what that does.

There's essentially no coach in the league, Belichick included, who you don't sit back at times and say "WTF were you doing?" If you have superior players, more often than not you will be taken off the hook. We dealt with 10 years of WTF with Marty. Todd Haley's entire tenure was a giant WTF. So I'm sure we'll have that with Reid as well, as the Eagles will with Kelly.

At the end of the day, it will come down to what kind of players these guys acquire and who their QB is. The Eagles were ready for a change and so were the Chiefs...

Yeah I guess, andy's history is a step up from your history LOL

You are projecting Andy Reid's success in KC based on his past with Philadelphia... even though the situation is already different with a GM (one of the top personnel guys in the league, in John Dorsey) who has the final say on personnel matters.

Yet you don't want to look at the past to project Chip Kelly's potential success in the NFL... the past that shows no college coach without prior NFL experience having success in the NFL the past 30+ years besides Jimmy Johnson.

It is revealing how you selectively choose which parts of the past to look at in terms of future projections for success.

You are doing the same thing with Andy Reid's potential success in KC.

Kelly is a ****ing douche bag...

Chip Kelly puts the Eagles in the hunt for a QB like Geno Smith...

http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/16/chip-ke...?sct=hp_t11_a4

Who knew? :shrug:


Us? We have to take a LT. :sulk:

The Chiefs history, as mediocre as it might be still includes a Super Bowl trophy.

How many trophies are in the Philadelphia Eagles Super Bowl trophy case?

Remind us.

Yeah, you're a ****ing mouthbreathing moron.

Thanks for playing.

3 NFL Championships.

You know I'm right. I wish Reid the best of luck there but let's not pretend he's Bill Belicheck.

Wrong answer dumbshit.

Super Bowl.

AFL/AFC vs. NFL/NFC.

How many do you have?

No one is interested in your championships from the '40s.

He's 100 times better than Chip Kelly.

Let's keep repeating this...

The Chiefs have Andy Reid + John Dorsey.

You have Chip Kelly + Howie Roseman.

Game over.

You lose.

and 1960. Don't be jealous.

Lol you are a f'n waste. Guess what? Chip Kelly won as many super bowls as Andy Reid ROFL

A lot of reaching and lack of reading comprehension going on in here.

Still can't answer the question, can you?

How many Super Bowl trophies do the Eagles have.

I'll give you a hint since you obviously need one, being an Eagles dumbshit.

Z-E-R-...

I'll give you another hint, it equals Chip Kelly's experience in the NFL.

I'll give you another hint, it equals the average IQ of most Eagles fans.

Nobody is. But you're too busy acting like a moron to notice.

We're actually VERY realistic about his shortcomings here.

So you can go away anytime.

Oh my, that is true, that's not very nice of you though. Leave ANDY ALONE!

This was a combination of a couple of things. One, Chip Kellys' agent told him the rumor was that teams didn't want to **** with him anymore since he kept interviewing then going back to school. This made him re-think his options. Two, the eagles fired Andy and started interviewing. When they couldn't find anyone worth a shit, they decided to put the big boy pants on and make him an offer he couldn't refuse~

After a year or so of Chip "Steve Spurrier" Kelly, you'll be begging for Andy Reid to return to Philadelphia.

If you want to see your future with Chip Kelly as HC, see the Washington Redskins with Steve Spurrier.

Enjoy.

.....YOURE KILLING ME SMALLS!

Oh, the irony of your logic. You are so thrilled and happy with Reid that you are failing to realize one of the reasons we never won a "SUPER BOWL" was BECAUSE OF HIM!!! BWHAHAHAHA!!!!

I'm sure he'll completely turn around the Chiefs shit organization though. When was the last time you guys won a playoff game?

Lol, I hope not. But at the same time you don't see me in here talking about how great he will be because I don't know what he will bring. Maybe he will totally fail. The point is, your arrogance is only exceeded by your stupidity. You keep trying to compare Kelly and Reid when nobody else is. That would be assinine.

You're also assuming I wanted Reid gone. I didn't. I wanted him to coach out his contract through next year to see if he could turn it around.

If I were teh Eagles, I'd try and send some first round picks to the Panthers for Cam.


Cam in Kelly's offense, would be epic.

Personally, I don't buy into this running QB phenomenon. It's a phase and won't last. Redskins were so dumb for giving up so much for RG3. He won't last.

1. oxygen thief

A person so useless on this planet that the mere fact of them breathing is a waste of oxygen

gotta love ESPN's tagline here:

Philadelphia Eagles' hire of Chip Kelly could be NFL's worst ever

Who besides Dick Vermeil got you closer to winning a Super Bowl than Andy Reid?

No one.

And no one got you consistently as close as Reid did to competing for and winning a Super Bowl.

Another example of you being a dumbshit Eagles fan.

Yeah because one reporter, Heath Evans, wrote a dumbass article about it :clap:

I'll withhold my judgement until I see the product on the field.

Howard Eskin ‏@howardeskin

I would not be surprised if Chip Kelly is highest paid HC in NFL. And w options left for #eagles I'm sure money was not a problem.

Close only counts in Horseshoes and Hand Grenades. I don't understand your grudge with me. I like Reid, I want him to succeed in KC.

You don't buy into Chip Kelly's offensive system then.

I have no problem with you.

You are an Eagles fan which automatically makes you a dumbshit.

I can't change what is factually true.

I'm fully aware of who Chip Kelly is. Whatever you assume about Philly fans is wrong. All fanbases have idiots. We may have more than you guys, but doesnt make us all idiots.

I don't want any part of Vick. I didn't necessarily want Chip Kelly. I'm excited for change and hoping for the best, I wouldnt be surprised if it doesnt work out. Oh well, that's the NFL. You take Risks. You don't think Reid is a risk? He's a good coach, but i'm not sure he'll ever take anyone over the top.

Manziel is gonna be a stud in Kelly's offense in a few years.

Riiiight. I'd suggest you research some reality and come over to the EMB. The National perception of Eagles fans as a whole is way off base. Like I said, theres some dolts in every fanbase. Hell, people got killed in SF at a game, not in Philly. In SF. If that happened philly, you'd never hear the end of it.

Trufe!

I have no desire to post on an Eagles message board. I don't give a shit about the Philadelphia Eagles. They are a complete non-factor to me.

I could care less about your fanbase. You and your fellow Eagles fans have decided to come on to a Chiefs message board to "warn us" about Andy Reid. The collective response back is we don't give a shit about your opinion.

The fact you are spending a significant amount of your time on a Chiefs message board, on the day your alleged team has hired a new HC is interesting.

It shows you are still obsessed with Andy Reid apparently.

You're like a broken record. Sounds like my wife. NAG! NAG! NAG!

You obviously don't "get it".

You are obsessed with Andy Reid.

Case closed.

ROFL

What a loser this guy is!

Spanos fired Marty after a 14-2 season because A.J. Smith didn't like Marty.

Since Marty was such a problem, I'm assuming the Chargers must have gone to several Super Bowls since then. Right?

Wait, what? They didn't?

Norv Turner never took them to the promised land?

That's why you're so bitter. The Chargers SUCK. They had a golden opportunity to win several Super Bowls, but they decided to suck instead, and now their window has closed.

My understanding is that the cheering fans were happy about the long overdue completion, and a first down. Cassel being hurt was not the subject of the cheering, but it made better press.

You know what, **** you with all your garbage about how people here can't form their own opinions.

We watch football. I've watched the Eagles probably 10 times this year. I've watched them a ton over the last 14 years.

I can form my own football opinions without having the jilted ex-wife coming on here telling me all about FACTS about a coach that's the best you've ever had.

I have tons of friends who are also Eagle fans, and they don't share any of your FACTS. You would think a fanbase would be pretty united in their criticisms. I know the guy struggles with clock management. I also know he built an organization there.

How about this. Dress yourself up in a Santa suit, and then throw batteries at your own head.

Marty's LEGACY is choking in the playoffs.

He's not unlucky.

He's a TERRIBLE postseason coach.

That game against the Patriots was bad luck

When it happens over and over and over and over and over, it's not bad luck.

It's a well-established pattern of behavior.

As an Eagles fan I am very excited. He is who I wanted. I'm glad both our fan bases got the guys they wanted.

Eagles play the Chiefs in 2013. It should be fun. Here's to a great game.

Go do a little Google research on THE DRIVE and THE FUMBLE from Marty's days in Cleveland. Those were nothing other than bad luck, no matter how much you desperately want to deny it.

And as Bo's Pelini just pointed out, it wasn't bad coaching on Marty's part that cost the Chargers the playoff game in 2007 when Marlon McCree intercepted a pass on 4th down, tried to return it, and then fumbled it back to New England. It was a stupid play by the Chargers' safety, and bad luck for Schottenheimer. All McCree had to do was knock down the pass, and the Chargers would have won the game. Instead, he turned the ball back over to the Patriots, and they marched down the field and won the game.

I'm not saying that Marty has NEVER choked in the postseason. He obviously has. But to say that he choked in the postseason EVERY TIME is demonstrably wrong.

Funny how some people just seem to have bad luck over and over and over and over

Like Parker said earlier, this is exactly like it was when Herm was hired and this place was over run with self righteous Jet's fans.

I think they were all Crackers also.

5-13 postseason record.

I think it's safe to say he sucks in the playoffs.

Sure, he had some bad luck. And later on, he made some bad decisions in the playoffs. But part of the problem was that Schottenheimer was one of the greatest regular season coaches ever. He coached up teams with less talent, and they wound up losing to more talented teams in the playoffs.

It's easy to look at his 5-13 playoff record and have a knee jerk reaction that says he must have sucked as a playoff coach. But nobody can take away the fact that Schottenheimer was a damn good coach, no matter how much the haters want to hate.

Actually, Marty was fired for insubordination. He insisted on trying to hire his own brother as defensive coordinator when both Dean AND AJ told him not to.

AJ and Marty bickered for sure, but they were both equally to blame, since Marty lost his shit upon finding out that AJ didn't always agree with him on all personnel decisions, and AJ eventually started giving Marty the silent treatment instead of settling differences and trying to work with him.

Just because the Chargers replaced Marty with a bad coach doesn't somehow make Marty into a great coach. I'll also add that Norv, for all his faults, got us a hell of a lot closer to the Super Bowl in his first year alone than Marty ever got in his whole time in San Diego.

How am I "bitter" for stating facts? Marty was a bad coach in the playoffs. He made irrational changes, his playcalling was overconservative, and he had no control over his emotions. This has nothing to do with the Chargers particularly, since he pulled this shit throughout his entire career.

I'm surprised any Chiefs fan still defends his playoff performances, since he lost you a playoff game by making an unnecessary quarterback change, and another one by (shocker!) settling for too many field goals when the other team's offense was led by Dan ****ing Marino.

His 5-13 postseason record really says it all. Blame the players all you want, but Marty's teams always failed in the postseason, whether it was in Cleveland, Kansas City, or San Diego. Players came and went, GM's came and went, coordinators came and went, but the one constant in all these chokejobs was Marty himself.

Bullshit. His Chargers teams were loaded with talent, and he still failed in the same exact ways as he did in Kansas City and Cleveland. You can have all the talent in the world, but it doesn't matter if you can't coach them properly - this is just as true in the playoffs as it is in the regular season.

Marty was a great regular season coach and a playoff choker, end of story. Unfortunately for him, once a team becomes good, they start being judged by what they do in the postseason, not the regular season.

Marlon McCree's fumble was bad luck.

Marty subsequently throwing a shitfit and challenging that clear fumble when he had zero chance of getting it overturned was bad coaching.

Inevitably losing the challenge, getting docked a timeout, and being forced to leave the game up to another known playoff choker, Nate Kaeding, was bad coaching. He obviously learned nothing from '04.

Going for it on 4th and 11 for no reason from the Pats' 30-yard line in the first quarter was bad coaching.