So the Rumor is that the Dolphins might trade a 2nd rounder for Albert. I wonder if they decreases the chances of the Chiefs trading down. They might want to just pick the guy they want.

I would love it if this happened.

It's disingenuous to use that metric when the man didn't start and play in all 16 games.

If a player allows 1 sack in 12 starts its a pretty safe ****ing bet to think he allows 1 in 16 games.
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First off, Albert only started 11 games and he did not complete all of those games.

It's complete speculation to state that he wouldn't have given up a sack in five other contests.

Pass blocking efficiency is a better measure, anyway.

2011 - 5th

2012 - 7th

Both years he was at 96.5%.

League leader was 97.5 and 97.9.

This is a valuable player.

ROFL @ the idea of the Jaguars giving up next years first just to trade up one spot. That's ****ing dumb.

That could be the Clowney pick.

Ok then that makes 2 sacks given up. Still elite.
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2011 he was flagged 10 times and Allowed 5 sacks.

Albert over his career averages 1 more sack allowed per year than Joe Thomas and 0.8 more penalties a year.


But no, hes not a good player.
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linebacker!!!

Who know who ELSE gave up 5 sacks that year whom idiots have a hard-on for here? Jake Long.

If you only give up 5 sacks in a year as a LT, you've done a fine job.

More speculation.

And no one said he wasn't elite.

Uh, sorry; no they won't.
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In my opinion, with the benefit of hindsight, hiring Romeo was worse, but I get what you're saying and it's not a ludicrous opinion.

I am starting to get concerned.

The Dolphins have shown they will slavishly overpay if the opportunity demands.

With the Chiefs' sights set on Joeckel, and Reid would love additional picks... I just don't know how we make it out of this one with Albert, folks.

Just relax. Dorsey hasnt lied to us. HE SAID BRANDEN ALBERT WILL BE THE FUTURE LT OF THE CHIEFS!! Like a week ago.

Link?

My understanding is that they "want" Albert to be the LTofF, not that he "will" be.

Big difference.

Want Will Im sure he will be.

From what reports? Thus far Fisher, Ansah, and Dion Jordon are in the running.

Your certainty offers me little solace.

Reports from at least two separate sources, including The Bad Guy's.

TBG's exact words: unless something crazy happens, Joeckel will be the pick.

I thought he just said that if the draft was today....they'd take Ansah?

This.

A 2nd rounder for Albert? GTFO

Yeah, because the smart move is to draft Joekel or Fisher and release Albert

Regardless, the pro-Joeckel buzz is there.

The other source I've heard of was the one Walter of WalterFootball.com, who has a source with the Chiefs. That source has said that the Chiefs are targeting Joeckel.

Again, I'm not saying this will happen. But I'm saying the buzz from multiple, independent sources is heavy around Joeckel. You cannot deny that.

Hey, if they give us something stupid like two firsts or their first and both seconds, we'd be silly not to entertain. However, I just don't see them getting even close to an adequate price point.

Walter

ROFL

His source is his ass.

I'm sorry, the ansah is incorrect.
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Exactly. TBG never said anything about us taking Joeckel.

I'm betting that both of their seconds gets this done.

I'm guessing a 2 and 5 will do it.

No one is giving up a first rounder for Albert, especially a team that just allowed Jake Long to walk, for free.

Yeah....well they were reportedly offering Jake Long $6 million a year. You think Albert is going to sign a long term deal there?

OH YEAH; take the third rated DE at one overall! No, this isn't 2009 at all....
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...rather draft a top defensive player #1 overall and sign Albert long-term.

Filling a hole with the #1 pick when we have the answer on the roster is just spinning our tires...

Who knows? Jeff Ireland is a special kind of idiot.

Dorsey these 2 trades will be telling. the albert trade and number 1 pick.

Sadly, this.

way to think of it that way. God, you hate everything i say so much that you actually speak without THINKING. Franchise left tackles in their prime, get MULTI YEAR contracts. Not franchise tenders when after one year they can let him go, or trade him.... Good call.......

JFC.

meaning, his back might be okay for one year, but not worthy of a 5 year contract. But you keep that hate alive bro!!

We hate Alex Smith, and we hate you. Just so you know...
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Dude, who is this we? No one likes you from what i can tell lol......

JFC Can we completely botch the OT situation any more. WE WERE FINE!!!

Question.

If the chiefs did indeed trade albert for a second with Miami, then drafted Joekel/Fisher, and then grabbed a qb in the second round as a developmental qb, what exactly is the big deal in that scenario?

If you are going to take a QB in an early round why the **** wouldn't you just take one at 1-1. Hooray 5th or 6th best option!!!! Since they aren't taking one at 1-1, I don't want one at all TBH

Then why make the Smith trade?

Keep 1.1 take whatever QB you want and keep Albert at LT.

Where was kaepernick taken again?

after cam, after Jake Locker, after Gabbert, after Ponder, after Dalton.....

Draft redo, who would go first? anyone still take mike vick over drew brees?

Shrugs. I dont know. Clearly, either Albert they dont think can stand up physically for another 4 years, or, clearly they dont like geno smith, and figure they can get a qb they like more in the second round that can sit for a while?

Thats the only reason in the world i could of seen them trading for alex smith. If last years draft class, was this year, there is no way they trade for alex smith, they take andrew luck and laugh.

There is no Kaepernick in this draft. After the first couple, they are garbage....and no Manuel will not be Colin 2.0.

I wouldn't be sucking Kaepernick's dick just yet. It could snap off like a skink's tail.

oh, i completely agree. I dont like ANY of these qbs in this draft other than Glennon, and i only like him as a long term prospect, and a guy who is NOT in an andy reid type system. He needs to be in a norv turner, sean payton type offense.

I am not pretending to know why andy and dorsey are doing what they are doing. Just trying to connect the dots.....

lol, why do you think i got banned from the 49ers board.........


I spoke against the messiah.

I wouldn't count out guys like Matt Scott.

Kaepernick wasn't exactly a stud coming out of college. All he had was an arm and legs.

he got placed in the perfect position to get the mentoring he needs.

Matt Scott is interesting. I like the comparisons people are making between Nassib, and Kirk Cousins as well.

Jags will trade up for Colquitt

Sweet Lord you are the biggest dildo this board has ever seen.
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This is equivalent to trading 1.1 for the 4th or 5th best QB in the draft. It's moronic and the only way it happens if we fall in love with one particular player at 1.1, which means we are probably over valuing him. The LT would have to be a first ballot HOFer before I would look back and say, that was a smart trade.

Of course! The Dildo "likes Glennon". I rest my ****ing case. DIF.
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Who was the Kaepernick equivalent in 2010, 2009, 2008, 2007 etc?

There isn't a diamond in the rough in every draft. It is the exception not the rule.

So before you mine the rough you are going to say there isn't a diamond?

Chiefs way.

Reason why they never find a Kaepernick or Wilson.

There is a first round QB worth taking in most years. I'll put my money there.

Brodie Croyle says "Hi".

The reason we are screwing with the OT situation is because we committed to Alex Smith and can't figure out what else to do with the 1.1 pick.

They take Alex Smith because there wasn't a single QB on the roster that was worth a damn. As well, the free agency QB's weren't going to get you anything other than middling journeyman types of guys.

Trading for Alex Smith is the exact same thing as signing Dunta Robinson for the free safety position or Shaun Smith for CB. Or franchising Branden Albert. They could have had Dee Milliner in the draft. They could have had Joeckel in the draft. They could have had Geno Smith in the draft. But the proven bird in hand is better than potential when you want to win now.

IMO, there is still a real possibility that Geno Smith is the pick. Alex Smith is 29 years old and coming off a concussion. He's also only put up two respectible seasons in his career. However, he was the best option that Dorsey and Reid had in making sure that they had a decent player at the QB position going into the 2013 season.

However, as stated, Geno Smith is just as likely the pick for the Chiefs as Joeckel/Fisher or a guy like Dion Jordan or Barkevious Mingo. (Tamba Hali is also going to be 29 and there isn't much behind him on the roster in terms of speed rush end.)

The Chiefs have set themselves up so as they've basically filled the roster holes through free agency (other than MLB), and they are now free to take who they feel is the best player available, whether that's Geno or Jordan or Joeckel or whoever.

Well I know revis.blew out his knee and hasn't played a down since
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Actually, he was.

The guys numbers were insanity sauce level and he won an absolute metric shit ton of games. Kaepernick was a complete ****ing stud coming out of college. Go watch him beat a very good Wisconsin team his last season in their bowl game. He played at Nevada because no one else was going to give him a scholarship because they all thought he was going to play pro baseball, but he was a destroyer of worlds for the Wolfpack.

On top of the fact you know he will demand a ton of cash and then possibly want more a few years later.

you basically just admitted you dont watch college football besides whatever headlines are on ESPN about the sport

If money is the reason they haven't inked Albert to a long term deal, I'm just hating on that contract they gave Colquitt. That money should have gone to sign Albert.

We guaranteed him $10,000,000. Did Miami do that with their "injured" LT?

This. Luxury Pick forthcoming, and my muse says Geno/Barkley. WIN.
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Yup.

Bingo!

I said the same thing when I first heard this. This strategy has been used. This is how Cassell got to KC. The Pats knew Pioli was interested so why let him go for nothing. Franchise his ass an make the the interested party pay.

Not saying Albert is gone but I think all options are on the table

Andy Dalton was the QB who beat Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. Kaepernick's last Nevada team was very good though, they were ranked most of the season. He passed for 3000/rushed for 1000.

But to be fair, if people knew how good Kaepernick was going to be... he wouldn't have went where he did. He did fall into a good place in SF though... he's surrounded by a ton of talent and they allowed him to run an offense he's used to. Sitting for a year may have helped him.

It's the Chiefs. The worst thing always happens.

Please point out the error(s) in his statement.

People are applying revisionist history to Kaepernick. He was incredibly raw coming out and it was surprising he went as high as he did.

Saccopoo always loved him but that was absolutely not consensus, and he has a well-known bias towards college players in and around the Mormon belt.

It was not surprising Kaepernick went in the 2nd round. He was a physical wonder that teams always fall in love with, but he came from that goofy ass offense in Nevada.

It was surprising that the 49ers took him, however, since nobody ever pegged Harbaugh as a fan of running QBs.

It was even more surprising that he'd be this good, this fast.

But him going in the 2nd wasn't terribly surprising.

I wonder who drafted him in the CP Mock...

I'd much rather offer him an AIDS-filled Choco-Twinky.
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Scott Wright had him as the #7 QB, behind Stanzi and Mallett
He wasn't in Mayock's top six
Walter had him at the sixth rated QB

Those are quick glances, easily findable on Google. He was largely thought of as a late second-early third rounder, not a high second.