The NFL is usually a mystery, but the Rams finishing 3rd is not.

I wanted Quinn over Aldon Smith. Thank you for rubbing that in ass hole.

Meth is an amphetamine. All amphetamines are not meth.

Its' like saying all opiates are heroin.

Aldon is a better pure pass rusher than poor man's DT

Ill give him that Von Miller is a better all around Linebacker. Aldon has a long way to go as a drop back defender, but there aren't many in the league that are better as a pure pass rusher than Aldon Smith.

crack marijuana people!!!
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Um, cool.

If you don't want to talk about 2 years down the road, you don't have to chime in on a conversation two other people are having about it.

You stated that the Chiefs best players would start "declining soon". That's utter B.S., even IF you're talking about two seasons from now.

In case you didn't notice, I was talking about 2 years from now. Where did you get 10?

Poe was awful last year. 0 sacks, 12 total pressures in 757 snaps?

Fisher is completely unproven.

Berry is hyped based on his draft position, not his play. He was possibly the very worst coverage safety in the league last year. QBs targeted him more often than any other safety.

If that's the foundation the future of the Chiefs is built on, I like it.

Are you looking forward to watching a 33 year old Derrick Johnson?

Konwmo might be a homer, but Hef is as buffoon

"Player(s)", not player.

Remember when Manning and Bailey were 33? Those were good times.

So a 32 year old Hali will be just fine, then.

31 year old Bowe?

**** off, troll.

Don't you have some teenage kids to breastfeed?

Dudes talking football. You can disagree but that doesn't make him a troll.

Remember when Darrell Green played until he was 42, while Urlacher couldn't play past 34? Position matters.

Like London Fletcher?

LMAO Okay.

I suppose Knowmo isn't a troll, either.

Dave never actually has any points to make, but saying things like that let him feel like he's contributing.

I respect you as a poster but come on....

Maybe you'll get lucky, then.

You too.

LOL

I'm just ****ing with the 2 donkey homers.

It's your board, not ours.

First, I already mentioned Hali. But later, you said before the 2015 season, which would make Hali 31 years old, not 32.

Bowe is 28, so he'll be 30 to start the 2015 season. Furthermore, he's in excellent health and speed isn't his game. So if he's able to avoid catastrophic injury, I see absolutely no reason why Dwayne Bowe won't be an excellent receiver at age 30 or 31.

They turn those ages during the season.

While not as old, it will be interesting to see what happens to Charles in his 8th season.

I don't get this ****ing conversation at all.

Why the hell are we talking about Jamaal Charles in 2015? The RB position is the most unstable position on a team from year to year in terms of roster changes. Guys come and go, are in their primes one minute and then sent to the glue factory the next. And that goes for EVERY team.

I was just responding to the niners fan. Dane apparently took it personally.

This, JC likely has 2-3 more all-pro years left in him. If they really believe they can win now, then why wouldn't you want to put the ball in your best players hands?

Use him as long and as much as you can and hopefully we can win big before he's done

Because Magic Hef said that Herm's draft choices will soon be declining.

Personally?

LMAO

No, I just called out your bullshit, which you've backed off of considerably.

Chiefs have some good players who will still be very good in 2015

Flowers
Fisher
Albert (unless we let him go)
Charles
Berry
Houston

Bowe will be 31, but I don't think he'll be on a terrible decline. He should still be a pretty solid WR at 31. I would expect him to seriously decline at age 33 or 34.

Tamba will probably be done.

One player who I think will be a very good player moving forward is Kelce. Just watch. He's going to be one of the better TE's in the league. And we're going to use him a lot at WR and TE.

What did I back off of?

By the time Manning retires, many of the Chiefs' best players will be leaving their primes.

man I don't know if Tamba will be done then. He looks a lot lighter this season, may be in the best shape of his career as an OLB. I mean he is getting off that ball now.

I bet he plays 2015 somewhere. probly here.

This kid TE Harris is a guy to watch.

LMAO Getting excited about Tight Ends. ONLY in Chiefs Nation.

Come on now. Like the 49ers, Pats, Saints don't get Tight end happy.

You don't understand. Ever since Gonzales bailed, it has become ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT POSITIONS EVAR!/Lil' Chiefy.

Yeah, I follow. Irepped you, I was just playing the part lol

But truth be told. Kelce COULD be special.

I have no problems acquiring a useful weapon at any position. That said, an offensive passing game that is predicated upon short dumps to RB's and TE's, and where a slant is considered "going deep", doesn't do much for me.

Without a QB your entire list goes down the toilet.

No QB, no passing attack. No passing attack, the opposing D stacks the line and your ground game goes to hell. No ground game, no extended offensive series. No offensive drives, and your Defense gets no rest and gives up big drives and points.

No QB and everything goes to hell. If the Broncos lose Peyton, they are toast.

Crystal Meth comes in tablet form? Who knew? :clap:

He's a good citizen who isn't contributing to the rotting and decay of morality in our society. How should he know what meth is like?

Just because...

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Does anyone in this division have a QB? Brock can succeed with the pieces we have.

I doubt you paid much attention to the AFCW two years ago, but I feel you should know that Denver won the division with Tebow.

I really hope you get your wish and Brock gets a chance to start a game or two. I want you to see how awful his accuracy is.

Maybe he's had enough time to make his throwing motion far more efficient and streamlined. In two years it's possible I guess. But I seriously doubt it.

You have a point there. Rivers and Smiff are not exactly all world. At least Smiff won't hurt his team.

We'll see about Osweiler. John Elwhack is high on him so here is hoping he sucks, but you may be right about the kid.

He's getting a lot of good reviews in camp. He should get a bunch of snaps in the preseason, I don't see our 3rd and 4th string QB's getting a whole lot of looks this preseason.

I paid enough attention to know that the entire Broncos team played FAR FAR harder for Tebow. This despite Fox having no faith in him and Elway hating his guts. The team laid down for Orton. You could see that Orton had no respect of his teammates, but they played way up for Tebow.

Tebow is a natural leader and he lead that team to the playoffs, despite his abysmal passing accuracy. It was a fluke he beat the Steelers to advance in the playoffs. Where his 125 passer rating v. Steelers came from, I have no clue. That game was just mind boggling. Tebow had some very clutch play in that game.

I hate the Broncos so I can't say I know anything about Brock. Maybe he is the next star QB, what do I know? Seems to me, they lose Peyton and they are in a world of hurt.

To be fair, there are always camp players who don't see the success in games they see in camp. A much better assessment is what Brock does in preseason games. That will be telling.

Fair statement.

At the 6:53 mark in this interview with Mike Klis they debate if the Broncos could make the playoffs with Brock starting every game. They all agree that the Broncos would.

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WHAT A SURPRISE

Yep. It's as simple as this.

Thomas is still better because he is a much better athlete and he doesn't have drop issues. DT can beat you over the top or take a screen pass to the house, Bowe is just a really good possession receiver.

Thomas is a much better athlete than Jerry Rice was.

Who was the better WR?

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Thomas of course. He dawns the almighty donkey hat so he MUST be the bestest ever, just like anyone else who wears it. Canton has an entire wing dedicated to the pile high donks /knomer

40% of those games are with Peyton ****ing Manning.

The best Bowe could ever hope for was 2 games with Kyle Orton.

That's the point we've been trying to make. Do you think DT is a better WR just because his numbers blew Larry Fitzgerald's off the charts this past year?

QB matters.

Jerry Rice of course.

Bowe doesn't do anything better than Thomas does though.

40% of those games also came with Tebow too.

Jerry Rice didn't run as fast, isn't as tall, and doesn't jump as high as Thomas. Rice was also notorious for his drops early in his career and during the first couple years of Steve Young.

It once again comes down to Rice being "just a possession receiver." I'm sure if you could, you would even say that Thomas runs better routes than Rice. Because you're a flaming dumbass.

Bowe is stronger, harder to take down after the catch, and a much better route runner than Thomas. His dick is also twice as long. He plays harder and more physical. The two are completely different WRs, but if I had to have my choice of either one, Bowe has proven he gets shit done no matter WHO his QB is. We have yet to see him play with a real passer. Who the hell knows what he could accomplish with that.

They said that Denver goes 10-6 with Osweiler? Is that you on the radio or did Von invite a bunch of fans to his party? 10 wins with a dialed back offense and Ronnie Hillman running game... wow

95% of Bowe's games came with Damon Huard, Brodie Croyle, Tyler Thigpen, Matt Cassel, Tyler Palko, and Brady Quinn.

**** you.

Don't forget Ricky Stan...

Oh, nevermind

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And you're just knocking DT's route running because that was the knock on him coming out of college. DT has significantly improved his route running since he has been in the league. You can't prove that Bowe is a better route runner than Thomas.

Except play football.

Peyton. Manning.

De "Mary" Thomas, 2012

Drops - 11
Drop Rate - 10.48

Dwayne "Schlong God" Bowe, 2012

Drops - 6
Drop Rate - 9.23

Suck the chocolatiest penis in the AFC West mother****er.

Clay to the rescue with more stats. LMAO

Two year sample of missed tackles forced:

Bowe: 19 total missed tackles, 140 receptions. 1 missed tackle forced every 7.36 catches.

De "Mary" Thomas: 17 total missed tackles, 126 receptions. 1 missed tackle forced every 7.41 catches.

Comparing the third year for both:

Thomas drop rate: 10.48

Bowe drop rate: 14.81

That's nice, but I'm pretty sure we are comparing the here and now.

Compare Bowe's worst year as a pro to De "Mary's" best.

Sure, that's fair.

The argument was that Bowe has drop issues and De "Mary" doesn't.

In the here and now, that statement is wrong.

KnowMo must be persecuted for his lies.

Actually, his worst year was the one before that, where he dropped 15.69% of passes.

Overall career drop rate:

Thomas: 10.84
Bowe: 12.24

Overall career receptions per missed tackle:

Thomas: 6.43
Bowe: 7.17

One was receiving passes from a useless piece of shit.

The other from one of the best QB's ever.

Deep passing drop rate, 2012:

Thomas: 5.88
Bowe: 16.67

Deep passing drop rate, career:

Thomas: 8.00
Bowe: 17.50

Irrelevant, since Bowe is no longer the turd he was in 2009.

Doesn't matter for drops. A drop is a non-catch on a pass that should have been caught.