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Buehler445 09-15-2013 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9975147)
I hope you're right but, I'm not holding my breath.

Point is that it is still early. And if Snyder has shown anything it is that he won't quit coaching the kids.

Raiderhater 09-15-2013 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 9975159)
Point is that it is still early. And if Snyder has shown anything it is that he won't quit coaching the kids.

Snyder is a master of getting these kids to realize more potential than they realized they had. Still, a lack of talent is a lack of talent.

ChiTown 09-15-2013 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 9975173)
Snyder is a master of getting these kids to realize more potential than they realized they had. Still, a lack of talent is a lack of talent.

I have been to all 3 games, and I keep walking away feeling the same thing each time.

1. Our front 7 is awful

2. We have no depth at Corner, and Dorian Roberts is proof of that

3. Until we start Sams, we are going to be exceptionally limited in the run game. Hubert is not a kid who can play in the backfield without another threat to run the ball - ala CK last year and Sams this year

4. I can not believe how much we speed we lack overall as a team. We are slow everywhere. It's shocking.

5. It's a very marginal team. I see 3 conf wins and that's about it.

WilliamTheIrish 09-15-2013 07:42 AM

Terrible recruiting on the defensive side of the ball.

KevB 09-15-2013 07:52 AM

Hopefully this is just a momentary dip this season and the talent will be better next season. The recruiting class this year appears to be better than last year. If HCBS gets this team to 7 wins, I'd be surprised. I think the Cats can beat Texas, West Virginia, ISU and KU. Maybe TCU at home. That's about it.

58kcfan89 09-15-2013 10:31 AM

I know he's only had about 4 carries, but Rose looked a lot faster than Hubert on his TD. Wouldn't mind seeing one of our backup RBs get more time in there (Robinson?). Torrell Miller can't catch. Baby Gronk is awesome and so is Daniel Sams. If we're not going to start Sams, he needs to be on the field in some capacity.

I think we have a couple decent pieces on defense, but I've been saying since last December that we better have someone ready at LB, because Arthur Brown is as close to irreplaceable as it gets. We didn't. And I don't follow recruiting well enough to know what we have coming in, but I hope there's some speed waiting.

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Originally Posted by KevB (Post 9975223)
Hopefully this is just a momentary dip this season and the talent will be better next season. The recruiting class this year appears to be better than last year. If HCBS gets this team to 7 wins, I'd be surprised. I think the Cats can beat Texas, West Virginia, ISU and KU. Maybe TCU at home. That's about it.

Kinda my thoughts. I think we're a bowl team (especially if we win in Austin), 7 wins or so, but that's about it. And as bad as our defense is, I don't think it's any worse than Texas or Oklahoma State's.

Beat Texas, WVU, ISU, Smurf Turkeys.

Lose at oSu (although I think we can score on them, they'll put up 40+), get destroyed vs. Baylor, lose @ Tech & vs. OU.

TCU is a toss-up. Their offense might be as bad as our defense.

6-6, maybe 7-5. Maybe worse if we drop one of the above four. Hopefully at some point before the end of the year, Sams cements himself as the starter and we have some younger guys step up so we're ready to go next year.


I have a friend who was covering the game & asked Sams about next week & how much he's expecting to play come conference play. Apparently Sams gave him a bit of a smile & said he can't comment on that. Also said Snyder has shown about 20% of the playbook. I'm sure none of this surprises any of you, just throwing it out there.

notorious 09-15-2013 10:56 AM

Until Snyder pulls his head out of his ass at QB this team is screwed.

If he figures out the obvious, KSU will at least be competitive.

mikeyis4dcats. 09-15-2013 11:00 AM

Hubie is too tentative. Rose runs downhill, and it shows.

kstater 09-21-2013 06:13 PM

Rent's Due.

Saulbadguy 09-21-2013 06:21 PM

Whelp - Snyder decided to start Waters.

:(

Saulbadguy 09-21-2013 06:32 PM

Defense is awful - which is no surprise.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-21-2013 06:33 PM

he's down

Saulbadguy 09-21-2013 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides (Post 10005626)
he's down

Well, yeah.

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 06:43 PM

Snydz gets Life in the game

kstater 09-21-2013 06:43 PM

#life

kstater 09-21-2013 06:43 PM

And that's why Sams should play every snap from here on.

Saulbadguy 09-21-2013 06:44 PM

Kind of reminds me of Roberson vs Dunn in 2002. GOD DAMNIT BILL

kstater 09-21-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy (Post 10005667)
Kind of reminds me of Roberson vs Dunn in 2002. GOD DAMNIT BILL

Yeah, but Waters is light years better than Dunn. Not an excuse but a reason. I think Waters works if OBz changes to a pass first O. But he didn't so he doesn't work.

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 10005673)
Yeah, but Waters is light years better than Dunn. Not an excuse but a reason. I think Waters works if OBz changes to a pass first O. But he didn't so he doesn't work.

He's just being OBZ. He has to see this.

Saulbadguy 09-21-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by kstater (Post 10005673)
Yeah, but Waters is light years better than Dunn. Not an excuse but a reason. I think Waters works if OBz changes to a pass first O. But he didn't so he doesn't work.

I don't know about that. He's not very good.

Saulbadguy 09-21-2013 06:51 PM

Whelp - good effort

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 06:53 PM

That SW just a terrible effort on D. Nice recruiting OBZ and Co.

Saulbadguy 09-21-2013 06:55 PM

This is going to get ugly.

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 06:59 PM

No time like the present to decide on a QB, Bill.

Saulbadguy 09-21-2013 07:03 PM

WOOF

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 07:06 PM

OBZ, you're not Tom Landry and Waters isn't Roger Staubach. FFS go with one you f'ing mad scientist.

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 07:13 PM

Thank goodness for penalties. They have been buzz sawing through the D.

Saulbadguy 09-21-2013 07:19 PM

Lord.

kstater 09-21-2013 07:19 PM

Terrible ducking play call

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 07:29 PM

Let's see, Texas has given up 2 f'ing miles in rushing yards in the last two weeks and we can't decide what to do.

Saulbadguy 09-21-2013 07:30 PM

LOL

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 07:30 PM

Bend, bend, bend then snap like a f'ing twig D.

Worst Recruiting Staff Of All Time.

kstater 09-21-2013 07:34 PM

Kids got a gun...bill needs to make a decision which way to run

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 07:35 PM

Big toss to TLBL

kstater 09-21-2013 07:35 PM

If you're gonna go with waters...make it a pocket passing team

kstater 09-21-2013 07:36 PM

Noce

Bowser 09-21-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10005819)
Bend, bend, bend then snap like a f'ing twig D.

Worst Recruiting Staff Of All Time.

As a Mizzou fan, this statement is incorrect.

I'm still pulling for you guys to turn it around this game. Because **** Texas.

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 07:40 PM

Kicked it OOB. Just who exactly is the son running this ST shit show?

KevB 09-21-2013 08:17 PM

Front 7 getting OWNED, and don't expect it to change the rest of this season. Numerous misses in recruiting and this is what things look like.

Raiderhater 09-21-2013 08:22 PM

I wanted a passing attack to make this offense more balanced. And Waters can nake some throws. But as this game has progressed I am firmly in the Sams camp.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-21-2013 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 9975189)
I have been to all 3 games, and I keep walking away feeling the same thing each time.

1. Our front 7 is awful

2. We have no depth at Corner, and Dorian Roberts is proof of that

3. Until we start Sams, we are going to be exceptionally limited in the run game. Hubert is not a kid who can play in the backfield without another threat to run the ball - ala CK last year and Sams this year

4. I can not believe how much we speed we lack overall as a team. We are slow everywhere. It's shocking.

5. It's a very marginal team. I see 3 conf wins and that's about it.

:hmmm: sounds familiar

LiveSteam 09-21-2013 08:47 PM

grate play call there

KevB 09-21-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy Was Offsides (Post 10006012)
:hmmm: sounds familiar

Yep, we are who we are. It's been the same refrain in each game.

KevB 09-21-2013 08:53 PM

Lack of talent definitely shows itself on special teams along with other 2 phases

KevB 09-21-2013 08:54 PM

Not sure how any defense can allow for a corner playing 15 f'ing yards off the line of scrimmage. Corners are just .....not good

CaliforniaChief 09-21-2013 09:19 PM

That was an incredible catch by Lockett.

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 09:20 PM

Looks like it'll be Waters.

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 09:25 PM

Got a stop. Need to drive quickly again.

CaliforniaChief 09-21-2013 09:27 PM

Gotta move faster...and can't take that.

CaliforniaChief 09-21-2013 09:28 PM

That works!

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-21-2013 09:29 PM

Great clock management

CaliforniaChief 09-21-2013 09:29 PM

The moral of the story is you're NEVER out of it when Greg Robinson's in charge of the other team's defense.

Coach 09-21-2013 09:30 PM

I'm not liking the lack of urgency here though....

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-21-2013 09:31 PM

Great play call. Would have wasted another 25 seconds anyway.

CaliforniaChief 09-21-2013 09:31 PM

Buttfumble 2.0

Coach 09-21-2013 09:31 PM

Waters should never start anymore. What a joke of a football player he is....

Titty Meat 09-21-2013 09:33 PM

Snyder in 2004 mode I see

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 09:34 PM

Corny Lucas was pissed at Waters as they panned the sideline prior to the commercial.

Coach 09-21-2013 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10006140)
Corny Lucas was pissed at Waters as they panned the sideline prior to the commercial.

As he should be. I was pissed at Waters to for somehow fumbling it away.

I still do not understand why Snyder and that coaching staff still insists Waters should get the bulk of the playing time.

I would have been fine being 2-2 or 1-3 if Sams was the QB instead. I want the kid to learn how to play QB.

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 09:37 PM

I hope Kevin Lockett has more kids. Tyler Lockett is incredible.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 09-21-2013 09:38 PM

UT donors in refs pockets. Trying to get Brown fired

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10006147)
As he should be. I was pissed at Waters to for somehow fumbling it away.

I still do not understand why Snyder and that coaching staff still insists Waters should get the bulk of the playing time.

I would have been fine being 2-2 or 1-3 if Sams was the QB instead. I want the kid to learn how to play QB.

Honestly, I don't care anymore. Pick one and go.

And TT almost took the punt to the house.

Raiderhater 09-21-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 10006118)
The moral of the story is you're NEVER out of it when Greg Robinson's in charge of the other team's defense.

The one fucking time that isn't true....

Coach 09-21-2013 09:41 PM

Just GTFO Jake Waters....

Overrated piece of shit QB.

Coach 09-21-2013 09:41 PM

What a ****ing joke Jake Waters is.

Raiderhater 09-21-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 10006153)
I hope Kevin Lockett has more kids. Tyler Lockett is incredible.

Did gou see the pivture of the young twins on the side line last year? There are more Locketts to come.

WilliamTheIrish 09-21-2013 09:43 PM

Waters is consistent I guess. 2 TO's per start. No INT's today though. Just ONE GIGANTIC FUMBLE and a sack/strip.

KevB 09-21-2013 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 10006167)
Just GTFO Jake Waters....

Overrated piece of shit QB.

Dude, he's a college kid. Give me a break. I'm as pissed as anyone about losing this game, but damn.

Raiderhater 09-21-2013 10:43 PM

All good things must come to an end. It is just a shame that it ended because Snyder over thought the game plan instead of just losing to a better team.

notorious 10-05-2013 01:57 PM

HEY, SNYDER IS STARTING THE RIGHT QB THIS WEEK!

notorious 10-05-2013 02:02 PM

That's ****ing grounding. JFC

notorious 10-05-2013 02:04 PM

**** YA!

TribalElder 10-05-2013 02:05 PM

that was a nice TD there

Saul Good 10-05-2013 02:06 PM

Beautiful play. Can't believe they've been playing Waters over Sams.

notorious 10-05-2013 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 10048913)
Beautiful play. Can't believe they've been playing Waters over Sams.

You and I have been saying it all season.


Snyder might have finally pulled his head out of his ass.

Saul Good 10-05-2013 02:09 PM

Well...that didn't last long.

Hopefully Sams goes off.

notorious 10-05-2013 02:09 PM

That lead lasted as long as an Elderly man's hard-on.

notorious 10-05-2013 02:11 PM

God Damnit.

TribalElder 10-05-2013 02:13 PM

they should quit trying to use waters

notorious 10-05-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TribalElder (Post 10048927)
they should quit trying to use waters

Sigh.


It's so obvious, too. :facepalm:


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