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Mosbonian 12-15-2013 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281414)
Dude. Literally a quarter of his TD's came in one game. How many games did he throw 0? One game does not make a season. Also 3 of his TD's being on screens with HUGE YAC does matter. Hell, Charles had to one hand one of them b/c Alex completely missed it.

So, I will ask you the same question I asked elsewhere....

What is it about Smith that you detest the most? Has he really been that bad? Or are you just wanting the next Montana/Brady/Manning?

ShowtimeSBMVP 12-15-2013 06:37 PM

Yes that is all.

laughsatyou907 12-15-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10281241)
And he is still 20th QB in the league.

Well at least you outed yourself as someone whose opinions never to take seriously again.

RINGLEADER 12-15-2013 06:38 PM

Last four games Alex Smth has been everything we could have hoped for...

75% completion percentage...1011 yards...12 TDs...2 INTs...132 passer rating...

No complaints here and I don't care what the level of the competition has or hasn't been...he's hot precisely when we need him to be hot...

Brock 12-15-2013 06:39 PM

It appears he's earned it.

AlexSmithDynasty 12-15-2013 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281414)
Dude. Literally a quarter of his TD's came in one game.

5 touchdowns is not 1 quarter of 23 total touchdowns. Either you don't know math or you don't know what the word "literally" means, which is it?

aturnis 12-15-2013 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 10281421)
So, I will ask you the same question I asked elsewhere....

What is it about Smith that you detest the most? Has he really been that bad? Or are you just wanting the next Montana/Brady/Manning?

The fact that outside of the last 4 games, and maybe 5 total this season, he's but much less than average.

RINGLEADER 12-15-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281454)
The fact that outside of the last 4 games, and maybe 5 total this season, he's but much less than average.

This is a fact as well...

He's also doing a lot with JC and that's about it...imagine how much more dynamic he'd be with someone like Josh Gordon...

AlexSmithDynasty 12-15-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281454)
The fact that outside of the last 4 games, and maybe 5 total this season, he's but much less than average.

And yet they started 9-0. Truly shocking it would take awhile for an offense to gel in a new system with a new coach and a new QB. Truly, truly shocking. This ain't madden buddy.

Mr. Laz 12-15-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281454)
The fact that outside of the last 4 games, and maybe 5 total this season, he's but much less than average.

or ............

you could say that he's trying to just do what it takes to win.

first half of the season the defense was dominating so he just avoided the turnovers.

2nd half of the season the defense hasn't been great and Smith has been much more aggressive.

laughsatyou907 12-15-2013 06:44 PM

It's a first year offense, new coaches, new playbook, and you expected them to get it all down from the first game of the season? You aren't a very smart person are ya?

aturnis 12-15-2013 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty (Post 10281445)
5 touchdowns is not 1 quarter of 23 total touchdowns. Either you don't know math or you don't know what the word "literally" means, which is it?

21.73%. You really want to make an argument that out makes you look stupid? B/c if you think that 21.73% in one game make any difference, you're a fool.

O.city 12-15-2013 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281498)
21.73%. You really want to make an argument that out makes you look stupid? B/c if you think that 21.73% in one game make any difference, you're a fool.

I think it's pretty obvious who's stupid in this thread

Mosbonian 12-15-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281454)
The fact that outside of the last 4 games, and maybe 5 total this season, he's but much less than average.

Really....average in what way?

Anyong Bluth 12-15-2013 06:47 PM

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Mosbonian 12-15-2013 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ComoLaz (Post 10281490)
or ............

you could say that he's trying to just do what it takes to win.

first half of the season the defense was dominating so he just avoided the turnovers.

2nd half of the season the defense hasn't been great and Smith has been much more aggressive.

Absolutely....and a good point.

It would be interesting to see if any of the people who still are anti-Smith were begging for just a QB who wouldn't lose us the game like Cassel.

mschiefs1984 12-15-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281414)
Dude. Literally a quarter of his TD's came in one game. How many games did he throw 0? One game does not make a season. Also 3 of his TD's being on screens with HUGE YAC does matter. Hell, Charles had to one hand one of them b/c Alex completely missed it.

What difference does it make if the TD passes come on a screen. Who gives a ****? Here's a thought. Bare with me here maybe they kept throwing the screens because they were working?

But I do agree Charles made one hell of a catch on a ball Alex missed

aturnis 12-15-2013 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 10281509)
I think it's pretty obvious who's stupid in this thread

I give Alex his due in the last 4 games. Let the season play out and then I'll decide whether to forgive his play the other two thirds of the season.

Mosbonian 12-15-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mschiefs1984 (Post 10281529)
What difference does it make if the TD passes come on a screen. Who gives a ****? Here's a thought. Bare with me here maybe they kept throwing the screens because they were working?

But I do agree Charles made one hell of a catch on a ball Alex missed

Yep...that one was a little high, but not uncatchable.

The pass he made on the wheel route was perfect.

AlexSmithDynasty 12-15-2013 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281498)
21.73%. You really want to make an argument that out makes you look stupid? B/c if you think that 21.73% in one game make any difference, you're a fool.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281414)
Literally a quarter of his TD's came in one game.

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281498)
21.73%

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281414)
Literally a quarter of his TD's

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281414)
Literally

:hmmm:

Mosbonian 12-15-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281531)
I give Alex his due in the last 4 games. Let the season play out and then I'll decide whether to forgive his play the other two thirds of the season.

Face it...if he wasn't on the last 4 games we all would be sweating out the next 2 games, or saying "well damn, the season started out great, but look what happened to us".

Honestly your anger would be better angled toward a defense that couldn't stop the Raiders and made several other half-ass QB's look like HOF's.

Mr. Laz 12-15-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 10281526)
Absolutely....and a good point.

It would be interesting to see if any of the people who still are anti-Smith were begging for just a QB who wouldn't lose us the game like Cassel.

I'm not an Alex Smith homer or basher.

He's not elite but he's done a pretty good job for us this year. I don't think our offensive talent around him is all that great.

Jamaal Charles is great, the rest is pretty average.


Alex Smith is just trying to win, whatever it takes. Even if it takes not throwing the ball much.

aturnis 12-15-2013 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mschiefs1984 (Post 10281529)
What difference does it make if the TD passes come on a screen. Who gives a ****? Here's a thought. Bare with me here maybe they kept throwing the screens because they were working?

But I do agree Charles made one hell of a catch on a ball Alex missed

It means that it is a TD that reflects the ability of the runningback and the blocking downfield more than it does the ability of the QB.

dj56dt58 12-15-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 10281438)
Last four games Alex Smth has been everything we could have hoped for...

75% completion percentage...1011 yards...12 TDs...2 INTs...132 passer rating...

No complaints here and I don't care what the level of the competition has or hasn't been...he's hot precisely when we need him to be hot...

those games don't count. Only the games where he was still getting used to the new coach and his new team mates count.

GordonGekko 12-15-2013 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty (Post 10281547)
:hmmm:

It's weird, AS doesn't really bug me anymore, and I'm glad he is having a career year and is taking us to the playoffs.

WHAT MAKES ME HATE AS, is all the AS fanboy dipshits that have invaded this board and are currently masquerading around as Chiefs fans, like this mofo.

ChiefsCountry 12-15-2013 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281592)
WHAT MAKES ME HATE AS, is all the AS fanboy dipshits that have invaded this board and are currently masquerading around as Chiefs fans, like this mofo.

This.

GordonGekko 12-15-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10281599)
This.

Where were all these assholes last year in one of our darkest years? Oh yeah, no AS so they weren't "Chiefs fans yet"... :rolleyes:

ChiefRocka 12-15-2013 06:59 PM

AS > Romo

AlexSmithDynasty 12-15-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281592)
It's weird, AS doesn't really bug me anymore, and I'm glad he is having a career year and is taking us to the playoffs.

WHAT MAKES ME HATE AS, is all the AS fanboy dipshits that have invaded this board and are currently masquerading around as Chiefs fans, like this mofo.

What makes you hate him is how wrong you were about him and how people who said he'd be good for you are making you look like a moron for being a stupid asshole for most over the season. That's what makes you hate him little buddy.

SAUTO 12-15-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty (Post 10281626)
What makes you hate him is how wrong you were about him and how people who said he'd be good for you are making you look like a moron for being a stupid asshole for most over the season. That's what makes you hate him little buddy.

you are wrong little buddy

GordonGekko 12-15-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty (Post 10281626)
What makes you hate him is how wrong you were about him and how people who said he'd be good for you are making you look like a moron for being a stupid asshole for most over the season. That's what makes you hate him little buddy.

Nope. It's dipshits like you and Mac-Niner bitch and all you other wannabe fake fans of the Chiefs. Go fist yourselves.

ChiefsCountry 12-15-2013 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281618)
Where were all these assholes last year in one of our darkest years? Oh yeah, no AS so they weren't "Chiefs fans yet"... :rolleyes:

http://cbssanfran.files.wordpress.co...ick_.jpg?w=425

Mosbonian 12-15-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ComoLaz (Post 10281560)
I'm not a Alex Smith homer or basher.

He's not elite but he's done a pretty good job for us this year. I don't think our offensive talent around him is all that great.

Jamaal Charles is great, the rest is pretty average.


Alex Smith is just trying to win, whatever it takes. Even if it takes not throwing the ball much.

He is doing for us this year what we need him to do.....play effective no-TO football that makes sure we are in the game.

I don't care if he is/isn't a great QB.....I just want him to be a good and effective leader.

I think Charles is great, but without a good QB you go nowhere. All you have to do to see a comparison is Barry Sander's career.

Saccopoo 12-15-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281592)
It's weird, AS doesn't really bug me anymore, and I'm glad he is having a career year and is taking us to the playoffs.

WHAT MAKES ME HATE AS, is all the AS fanboy dipshits that have invaded this board and are currently masquerading around as Chiefs fans, like this mofo.

At least they aren't a bunch of pessimistic jerkoffs that are looking for any reason whatsoever to bash a guy in a new system, with a new coach and questionable talent around him other than one guy that now has the Chiefs at 11-3 and in the playoffs.

These miserable ****ers won't be happy until we draft Andrew Luck. Meaning they aren't ever going to be happy and will continue to blather negativity and vitriolic musings non-stop regardless of who is QB'ing the team.

I mean, these are the same pessimistic poopbrains who wanted to draft Mark Sanchez and Jimmy Clausen with our first round pick just so they could say we drafted a QB with a first round pick.

They refuse to give Smith any credit for this team qualifying for the playoffs with two games left after going 2-14 the year before. Screw 'em.

GordonGekko 12-15-2013 07:05 PM

I think it's just hilarious how one player can someone a devoted fan of another team, and go on their board and call out their real original fans continuously like they have an ounce of legitimacy for being here. They need to get ****ed.

AlexSmithDynasty 12-15-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10281647)

I hate that overrated bicep kissing turtle lover.

Mosbonian 12-15-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281592)
It's weird, AS doesn't really bug me anymore, and I'm glad he is having a career year and is taking us to the playoffs.

WHAT MAKES ME HATE AS, is all the AS fanboy dipshits that have invaded this board and are currently masquerading around as Chiefs fans, like this mofo.

What about those of us here that have been here all along....but like what Smith is doing this year?

GordonGekko 12-15-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 10281681)
What about those of us here that have been here all along....but like what Smith is doing this year?

You have legitimacy and it is perfectly fine. I enjoy watching AS have success as well, it means good things for the Chiefs.

It's the illegitimate douche bag 49er fans coming on here within the time frame of AS becoming a Chief, and calling out the real Chief fans who have been through the trenches for years.

AlexSmithDynasty 12-15-2013 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281672)
I think it's just hilarious how one player can someone a devoted fan of another team, and go on their board and call out their real original fans continuously like they have an ounce of legitimacy for being here. They need to get ****ed.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahaha no legitimacy? To post a few comments a week on an Internet message board. I didn't know this was such an exclusive club.

teedubya 12-15-2013 07:11 PM

I love me some Alex Smith... he is doing some great things. Is he perfect? No. Is he the best QB that we've had since Trent Green? Yes.

ChiefsCountry 12-15-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281715)
You have legitimacy and it is perfectly fine. I enjoy watching AS have success as well, it means good things for the Chiefs.

It's the illegitimate douche bag 49er fans coming on here within the time frame of AS becoming a Chief, and calling out the real Chief fans who have been through the trenches for years.

The irony is they came here for hating Kaepernick, the qb for their team, yet bash Chiefs fans for hating Alex Smith.

Stupid two face ****ers.

GordonGekko 12-15-2013 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexSmithDynasty (Post 10281727)
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahaha no legitimacy? To post a few comments a week on an Internet message board. I didn't know this was such an exclusive club.

I'm glad your man crush is having success, it really helps the Chiefs towards their end goal. But let's call it, you are not a Chiefs fan, just a dipshit worshiper of our current QB.

GordonGekko 12-15-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 10281737)
I love me some Alex Smith... he is doing some great things. Is he perfect? No. Is he the best QB that we've had since Trent Green? Yes.

I agree definitely, but that is not saying all that much.

RobBlake 12-15-2013 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281618)
Where were all these assholes last year in one of our darkest years? Oh yeah, no AS so they weren't "Chiefs fans yet"... :rolleyes:

oh, i guess it's wrong to be a fan of a player that was on your fav team for practically a decade and follow him in support. We are all sorry for trying to add good vibes to your team and wishing Alex and the chiefs to succeed. :clap:

Saccopoo 12-15-2013 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281752)
I agree definitely, but that is not saying all that much.

So who do you want?

Say it, right now.

Who should they pick up in either free agency or the draft in this off-season so you don't have to deal with Smith's "mediocrity" anymore?

Pony up.

SAUTO 12-15-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10281671)
At least they aren't a bunch of pessimistic jerkoffs that are looking for any reason whatsoever to bash a guy in a new system, with a new coach and questionable talent around him other than one guy that now has the Chiefs at 11-3 and in the playoffs.

These miserable ****ers won't be happy until we draft Andrew Luck. Meaning they aren't ever going to be happy and will continue to blather negativity and vitriolic musings non-stop regardless of who is QB'ing the team.

I mean, these are the same pessimistic poopbrains who wanted to draft Mark Sanchez and Jimmy Clausen with our first round pick just so they could say we drafted a QB with a first round pick.

They refuse to give Smith any credit for this team qualifying for the playoffs with two games left after going 2-14 the year before. Screw 'em.

funny you left out geno smith with sanchez and causen.


oh yeah that's right you hated alex smith and wanted geno at one overall...


STFU now

Rausch 12-15-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 10281440)
It appears he's earned it.

No rush...

ChiefsCountry 12-15-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10281794)
So who do you want?

Say it, right now.

Who should they pick up in either free agency or the draft in this off-season so you don't have to deal with Smith's "mediocrity" anymore?

Pony up.

Says the biggest Geno Smith ballwasher on this board.

Mav 12-15-2013 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 10281414)
Dude. Literally a quarter of his TD's came in one game. How many games did he throw 0? One game does not make a season. Also 3 of his TD's being on screens with HUGE YAC does matter. Hell, Charles had to one hand one of them b/c Alex completely missed it.

Why is giving Jamaal Charles the opportunity to create yards for himself in space such a negative thing?
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10281415)
Says the pillowbiter who is a Cleveland Brown fan. I mean 49er fan. Oh wait I'm a Alex Smith fan - Go Chiefs.

Well, I was a die hard 49er fan driven off and turned off by Alex Smith haters who didn't appreciate what they had. I was told to leave because Kaepernick was the true franchise qb. So, when he left, I came here.
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10281739)
The irony is they came here for hating Kaepernick, the qb for their team, yet bash Chiefs fans for hating Alex Smith.

Stupid two face ****ers.

Well, that's NOT why you hate me, and attack me. I have never BASHED you for your opinion of Alex Smith. you have bashed me, for LIKING alex smith.

You are free to feel however you want.

BossChief 12-15-2013 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10281671)
At least they aren't a bunch of pessimistic jerkoffs that are looking for any reason whatsoever to bash a guy in a new system, with a new coach and questionable talent around him other than one guy that now has the Chiefs at 11-3 and in the playoffs.

These miserable ****ers won't be happy until we draft Andrew Luck. Meaning they aren't ever going to be happy and will continue to blather negativity and vitriolic musings non-stop regardless of who is QB'ing the team.

I mean, these are the same pessimistic poopbrains who wanted to draft Mark Sanchez and Jimmy Clausen with our first round pick just so they could say we drafted a QB with a first round pick.

They refuse to give Smith any credit for this team qualifying for the playoffs with two games left after going 2-14 the year before. Screw 'em.

Oh, STFU.

You were Geno Smiths biggest supporter on here.

Rock star.

Sannyasi 12-15-2013 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 10281097)
Still hasn't had a 300 yard game. 3 screen pass touchdowns, he gets the stats but come on I wouldn't be crowing about those too much.

The wheel route was a nice ballsy touchdown throw and throwing to Duck Dynasty was great play though.

Reid is a dumbass for not using that wheel route before now. Its an absolute money play on Madden. You've got Jamaal with high 90's speed being covered 1 on 1 by a linebacker? That's a mismatch.

BossChief 12-15-2013 07:22 PM

The ONLY reason Sac likes Alex is the Utah connection.

If Alex played college ball in Montana, he wouldn't give 2 shits.

BTW, Sac...do you still want Chucky Keeton to be our first round pick?

Dumbass.

Tribal Warfare 12-15-2013 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by teedubya (Post 10281737)
I love me some Alex Smith... he is doing some great things. Is he perfect? No. Is he the best QB that we've had since Trent Green? Yes.


He's not in Trent's stratosphere

Mr. Laz 12-15-2013 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10281821)
Oh, STFU.

You were Geno Smiths biggest supporter on here.

Rock star.

I figured we should probably go ahead and draft Geno Smith too.

like most reasonable people we have moved on and let it go.

Alex Smith is here, Geno Smith is not

We are winning with Alex Smith, so "it seems to me, you'd be a little more philosophical about it, and cut it the **** loose."

http://www.gifti.me/i/Bf6NE.jpg

Saccopoo 12-15-2013 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10281833)
The ONLY reason Sac likes Alex is the Utah connection.

If Alex played college ball in Montana, he wouldn't give 2 shits.

BTW, Sac...do you still want Chucky Keeton to be our first round pick?

Dumbass.

If the knee injury heals 100%, yes.

And I'm sure that Smith taking this team to 11-3 with a playoff spot has nothing to do with my feelings on Smith's functionality with this team in this system.

And I matriculated from KU, not Utah. I don't have any collegiate ties to Smith or the institution he graduated from.

But, by all means, continue the stupidity. It's what you do best.

BigMeatballDave 12-15-2013 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10281838)
He's not in Trent's stratosphere

What happened to all those games Alex missed due to injury?

Oh, and you're still a moron for comparing him to Bono LMAO

Sannyasi 12-15-2013 07:37 PM

I like Alex but I still don't see him as a Super Bowl QB. Based on what I've seen this year, I wouldn't re-sign him unless he lead this team to a playoff victory.

I enjoy beating up on the Raiders and Skins as much as anyone but those aren't the games I look at when I'm evaluating the QB.

Tribal Warfare 12-15-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BCD (Post 10281890)
What happened to all those games Alex missed due to injury?

Oh, and you're still a moron for comparing him to Bono LMAO

That's right, and is the season over? He's still ****ing Bono

TripleThreat 12-15-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 10270098)
No

Draft a QB this year. New QB and Bray fight it out for #2 next season with the winner the heir apparent for 2015. Let Alex play his last year of his contract and either leave as a FA or sign for less and expect to be a very good backup for the last few years he has in the league.

Lol Alex is gonna start on a team wether its Kc or somewhere else imo

Saccopoo 12-15-2013 07:38 PM

Come on Gekko...

Who's your boy that's going to rid us of Smith's "mediocrity" and take us to the promised land?

You were pretty adamant about how shitty Smith is, so I'm sure you've got your options covered in terms of which QB is going to provide the team with a substantial upgrade at the position. Let's hear them. C'mon man, don't be a pussy.

Jakemall 12-15-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281672)
I think it's just hilarious how one player can someone a devoted fan of another team, and go on their board and call out their real original fans continuously like they have an ounce of legitimacy for being here. They need to get ****ed.

Yes, I agree. It is hilarious how one player can someone.

ROYC75 12-15-2013 07:38 PM

Well, there is no rush to do this. But since he is Andy's pic to run the show, he will get it.

I've been pleased with Alex's play this year. I was not an Alex supporter, but wasn't totally against it. I didn't think 2 # 2's was the ticket so he has to earn my trust and keep, he is on his way of doing this.

I felt all along he would get better once the offense and he was on the same the same page. The last 5 games is a vast improvement.

Alex has never been a bad QB, he has just played on bad teams or poorly coached teams until Harbaugh. I have always said that Alex can play QB well ( not great ) but you have to have several playmakers around him. Naturally, this is the goal of every GM

As long as Alex is our QB, we must have elite talent around him. It is what it is.

Anyong Bluth 12-15-2013 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10281819)
Why is giving Jamaal Charles the opportunity to create yards for himself in space such a negative thing?

Well, I was a die hard 49er fan driven off and turned off by Alex Smith haters who didn't appreciate what they had. I was told to leave because Kaepernick was the true franchise qb. So, when he left, I came here.


Well, that's NOT why you hate me, and attack me. I have never BASHED you for your opinion of Alex Smith. you have bashed me, for LIKING alex smith.

You are free to feel however you want.

I know my cousins who grew up in NorCal and 9ers "true fans" were telling me when we got off to a hot start to the season and discussing AS that there was a lot of vitriol and bagging on the guy that was way more unwarranted along with a very vocal group ready to immediately suck Kaepernick off. Though a lot of them really liked Alex and rooted for his improved play probably in part because he is a good guy and they followed that team when it struggled and we're excited to see Smith and the whole team turn the corner and really start winning.

Mav 12-15-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 10281909)
Well, there is no rush to do this. But since he is Andy's pic to run the show, he will get it.

I've been pleased with Alex's play this year. I was not an Alex supporter, but wasn't totally against it. I didn't think 2 # 2's was the ticket so he has to earn my trust and keep, he is on his way of doing this.

I felt all along he would get better once the offense and he was on the same the same page. The last 5 games is a vast improvement.

Alex has never been a bad QB, he has just played on bad teams or poorly coached teams until Harbaugh. I have always said that Alex can play QB well ( not great ) but you have to have several playmakers around him. Naturally, this is the goal of every GM

As long as Alex is our QB, we must have elite talent around him. It is what it is.


This always makes me laugh. You have ONE elite player on your offense. That's it.

Andy knows it. You know it, I know it. It should be apparent to everyone who watched Bowe on that streak route with 5'10 phillip adams on him, and a perfectly thrown ball that BOWE NEVER FOUGHT FOR, should know it to.

It is Jamaal. And that is it.

But yes, Avery, Hemmingway, Bowe, Aj Jenkins who was used as a running back today.

ELITE TALENT, MUST ADD MOAR.

GordonGekko 12-15-2013 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10281904)
Come on Gekko...

Who's your boy that's going to rid us of Smith's "mediocrity" and take us to the promised land?

You were pretty adamant about how shitty Smith is, so I'm sure you've got your options covered in terms of which QB is going to provide the team with a substantial upgrade at the position. Let's hear them. C'mon man, don't be a pussy.

Well Sackoshit, I kind of wanted Geno LIKE YOU DID, especially after he fell into the 2nd round. I was kind of hoping the Chiefs would put something together and move up and get him when that happened. Having AS and Geno on the team would not have hurt me one bit. Geno first overall however, was a much tougher pill to swallow, but in the 2nd round hell yes.

Sandy Vagina 12-15-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 10281909)
As long as Alex is our QB, we must have elite talent around him. It is what it is.

I can appreciate most of your post there, but ELITE is too strong. He just needs decent talent around him.

Saccopoo 12-15-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 10281909)
Well, there is no rush to do this. But since he is Andy's pic to run the show, he will get it.

I've been pleased with Alex's play this year. I was not an Alex supporter, but wasn't totally against it. I didn't think 2 # 2's was the ticket so he has to earn my trust and keep, he is on his way of doing this.

I felt all along he would get better once the offense and he was on the same the same page. The last 5 games is a vast improvement.

Alex has never been a bad QB, he has just played on bad teams or poorly coached teams until Harbaugh. I have always said that Alex can play QB well ( not great ) but you have to have several playmakers around him. Naturally, this is the goal of every GM

As long as Alex is our QB, we must have elite talent around him. It is what it is.

So, the team stands 11-3, tied with the best record in the NFL and has clinched a playoff berth with two games remaining in the season.

What elite talent do we have surrounding Smith that has led the team to this record? (Now, I would hate to bring up the oft-stated opinion that the QB is the most important position on the field and determines the overall success of the team more often than not, but...)

Charles is elite. Other than that, who do we have?

GordonGekko 12-15-2013 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10281926)
This always makes me laugh. You have ONE elite player on your offense. That's it.

Andy knows it. You know it, I know it. It should be apparent to everyone who watched Bowe on that streak route with 5'10 phillip adams on him, and a perfectly thrown ball that BOWE NEVER FOUGHT FOR, should know it to.

It is Jamaal. And that is it.

But yes, Avery, Hemmingway, Bowe, Aj Jenkins who was used as a running back today.

ELITE TALENT, MUST ADD MOAR.

Bowe used to be pretty good, too. I still would love to see his numbers if he had played with Brees, or Manning or a high TD guy. Bowe made a pretty solid name for himself in the dark days (before you were a Chiefs fan) when we had Cassel and the like.

Anyong Bluth 12-15-2013 07:44 PM

Can I finally add this thread blows as everyone is at each others throats when we just scored more points than any other team in the league this year on the road with some awesome performances to secure a playoff spot.

All you assholes should be way happier!

Mav 12-15-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 10281919)
I know my cousins who grew up in NorCal and 9ers "true fans" were telling me when we got off to a hot start to the season and discussing AS that there was a lot of vitriol and bagging on the guy that was way more unwarranted along with a very vocal group ready to immediately suck Kaepernick off. Though a lot of them really liked Alex and rooted for his improved play probably in part because he is a good guy and they followed that team when it struggled and we're excited to see Smith and the whole team turn the corner and really start winning.

Sounds about right.

I find it absolutely hilarious, that the FRANCHISE QB, is going to finish behind every statistical qb stat behind alex smith.

He will have a lower comp percentage, rating, yards, tds.

That is OUTSTANDING TO ME, despite having Boldin a great oline, and Vernon davis, and gore for the majority of the season.

That makes me laugh.

Mr. Laz 12-15-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75 (Post 10281909)

As long as Alex is our QB, we must have elite talent around him. It is what it is.

umm ... the talent around Alex Smith is not even close to elite right now.

no real #1 WR
no real #1 TE
due to injury - starting a street FA at TE in a scheme that relies on the TE's
youngest Oline in the NFL
WR having a bad case of the dropsies most of the year
1st year scheme
1st year coaching staff

Jamaal Charles is the only thing Elite around Alex Smith right now and we are winning.

Tribal Warfare 12-15-2013 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ComoLaz (Post 10281950)
umm ... the talent around Alex Smith is not even close to elite right now.

no real #1 WR
no real #1 TE
due to injury - starting a street FA at TE in a scheme that relies on the TE's
youngest Oline in the NFL
WR having a bad case of the dropsies most of the year
1st year scheme
1st year coaching staff

Jamaal Charles is the only thing Elite around Alex Smith right now and we are winning.

and Jamaal is our offense like any other year

laughsatyou907 12-15-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth (Post 10281942)
Can I finally add this thread blows as everyone is at each others throats when we just scored more points than any other team in the league this year on the road with some awesome performances to secure a playoff spot.

All you assholes should be way happier!

You should know that these people are addicted to complaining.

Mav 12-15-2013 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281939)
Bowe used to be pretty good, too. I still would love to see his numbers if he had played with Brees, or Manning or a high TD guy. Bowe made a pretty solid name for himself in the dark days (before you were a Chiefs fan) when we had Cassel and the like.

I still think that Bowe can be elite. But, I think that is what is being overlooked, as I pointed out about that streak route, is sometimes, bowe has to help himself.

I can think of three such examples.

One, the streak today.

Two, against the Giants I believe they were running the same pick play that the Broncos run, where Bowe was cutting under Fasano, and Bowe made no effort to beat the corner to the inside, and instead of fighting for position, it was an easy pick, and in the Broncos game there, he had his man beat, alex threw a perfect all, and Bowe instead of using his body to shield, let the defender over his back to knock the ball away.

That's stuff that BOWE has to do better, that bowe USED to do.

Saccopoo 12-15-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281929)
Well Sackoshit, I kind of wanted Geno LIKE YOU DID, especially after he fell into the 2nd round. I was kind of hoping the Chiefs would put something together and move up and get him when that happened. Having AS and Geno on the team would not have hurt me one bit. Geno first overall however, was a much tougher pill to swallow, but in the 2nd round hell yes.

I'm not talking about the 2013 draft. Past is the past.

We're talking about the 2014 Draft and Free Agency.

Who's your boy?

Who's the guy that will rid this team of Smith and his mediocrity?

Mav 12-15-2013 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10281954)
and Jamaal is our offense like any other year

and, that's BAD?

I have yet to ever understand why Charles being the best player on the planet is such a bad thing. Why shouldn't the Chiefs get the ball in his hands as much as possible?

GordonGekko 12-15-2013 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10281954)
and Jamaal is our offense like any other year

JC did make AS look elite today. 3 of those TD's were a combination of JC owning ass, and the Oakland Raid sucking nuts. AS kind of just 'threw' the short pass, and allowed JC to make it happen. JC's fourth receiving TD, AS had a lot to with that one no doubt though.

GloryDayz 12-15-2013 07:50 PM

No extension please... Needs to play scared!

Tribal Warfare 12-15-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281975)
JC did make AS look elite today. 3 of those TD's were a combination of JC owning ass, and the Oakland Raid sucking nuts. AS kind of just 'threw' the short pass, and allowed JC to make it happen. JC's fourth receiving TD, AS had a lot to with that one no doubt though.

that is stretching it, because Charles has been the constant badass even before Alex.

Saccopoo 12-15-2013 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10281939)
Bowe used to be pretty good, too. I still would love to see his numbers if he had played with Brees, or Manning or a high TD guy. Bowe made a pretty solid name for himself in the dark days (before you were a Chiefs fan) when we had Cassel and the like.

WTF?

Bowe is in the prime of his career. He's never had great hands or was a precise route runner - two things required in a West Coast offensive system. He was allowed to free lance a lot more and it provided some highlight reel catches from time to time. But he's not elite. Not even close.

And any guy on the receiving end of Brady, Manning or Brees is going to have elevated TD numbers. Your mom would have high TD numbers with Brady throwing to her.

Are you ****ing high right now?


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