What a terribly depressing post game celebration.

Um....Tharpe played like complete dogshit. Him on the bench was probably the only reason we didnt give up 100 (or 120)

Damn

Tharp also has a dislocated thumb

Wiggins and Mason were just about the only ones who showed any balls in this game. I wouldn't have played Tharpe either, he didn't deserve it.

Was his brain also dislocated?

Not sure he has one to dislocate

4 blocks.

12 of 18 shooting.

And Mason and Frankamp played great?

Comon, Tharpe would have given them a better chance in the end with his shooting.

I'm not mad at that loss at all. We win that if Embiid plays.

Why would you think that? This team all year when they got down big does the same thing. They fight back but just fall short.

Or if they care at all for the first 30 minutes probably.

This.


Play the first 30 mins with the intensity of the last 10, probably win

Because this game literally meant nothing to them. Except apparently Wiggins, he found the motivation somewhere.

I'm glad I watched the whole game. It was pretty fun at the end. I hope Wiggins continues to play like a beast and Embiid comes back healthy.

That was one of the best performances of a Kansas player of ALL TIME.

Mason wasnt that bad.

If Frankamp cant hit threes, he might as well be Niko Roberts. Think he was 0-7 today.

Wow Kansas ****ing sucks. Hello first round exit

Yeah, I can live with Mason making mistakes. He's proven himself to be a player. Frankamp though, just WTF?!

Anybody watching the next game? Iowa State is jacking up threes with no lcuk.

Remind us who you are again.

It's pretty clear, when KU gives their best effort they can't be stopped. It's hard to do that when there's nothing to play for. Can't wait until two weeks!!!

But.. but but they're better than that this year! /rusty

Radio said, most points scored by a hawk since 1991 with Terry Brown. Plus like 18 boards. Sick.

And there have been some damn good players here over the years. Kid is good. Where is that ****ing asshat that was saying he wasn't trying because he wasn't drenched in sweat?

Dude. KU starting 3 freshman a sophomore and a junior locked up the best league in the country with 3 games left.

They may very well lose in the first round but this game is not indicative of the body of work.

LMAO

Wouldnve been nice to see that happen in an "EJ vs Iowa State" type game, but it was definitely impressive. Perhaps the "it went by too fast" stuff is legit and he is embracing the few games he has left in college.

He had 8 boards:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400498422

Didn't check. Should have. Still that is a hell of a line.

41 pts
8 boards
2 assist
4 blocks
5 steals

66.67 % shooting.

Late to the thread, Watched the game at the Kansas Craft Brewer's Fest. Glad that all of the games from here forward matter. Oh... I'm beezoed right now, too. If you're going to watch KU lose, do it surrounded by great beer.

Yeah we lost again because we didnt try hard enough. Damn, always happens when we lose. I sure hope we try hard in the NCAA tournament. But, if we dont, surely its because we dont even care if we win or not. Clearly

Frankamp is the inverse type of player I thought he would be. If I wouldn't know anything about his HS career I would assume hes an Aaron Craft type player. Shitty shooter, just scrappy on defense and limits mistakes

Oh, that's right. You're the guy who thinks that effort doesn't make a difference in basketball. LMAO

Frankamp is one of the worst defensive guards in the country right now. He also can't handle the ball at all. Nothing like Craft.

I envy you the venue.

Did you taste any Wichita Brewing Co.? I think they do an excellent job on their beers. All solid, with the porter and ipa above average.

Compared to Tharpe?? Hes way better. You must not watch many other teams play if you think his defense is the worst in the country. Im not saying hes this amazing defender necessarily but I expected him to be way behind the curve on that. Hes been better than expected there, I think anyone would agree with that. As far as ballhandling he doesnt make mistakes, which isnt necessary a good thing because he sure doesnt look like a good distributor either.

I think you missed my point, in simple terms he looks like a player whos strength isnt scoring or shooting

True. Even Selden has struggled a bit more than I expected. Just goes to illustrate how incredible Wiggins and Embiid have been this year.

I like how every NCAA loss you blame on the team not trying hard enough, its pretty funny. Effort matters, just not to the degree you, fans, and the media portray it to be. Almost every player at this level is playing with a high level of intensity. Just because they arent flopping around and animated like Marcus Smart doesnt mean they dont have the will to win

Yes, even worse than Tharpe. Worse than a great many guards actually. It's the primary reason he hasn't been able to play much this season.

Well, right now he looks like a guy who doesn't have a strength. Looks like a common scrub out there. But that's no reason to write him off in the future or anything, he'll have all summer to improve.

It does, because it's not just about physicality.

Effort portrays more that that. Mental, physical, etc. KU doesn't mentally lock in on defense at times, lacking focus, which leads to shitty effort.

Except that isn't close to true. There are plenty of games this team has lost where they've given a good effort. The KSU one in overtime for example or the San Diego game at home. They tried hard and just got beat in those games.

But there are also games like today where the team didn't try at all for 30 minutes defensively. They turned up the effort level in the last 10 primarily due to Wiggins, but it wasn't enough to overcome the early laziness.

It matters a ton. WVU was focused and wanted this game in a way that KU just didn't. They showed it on the court. That ultimately proved to be the biggest difference today.

I want to have kids just so I can tell them if they try really hard, theyll be an astronaut or POTUS, but if they dont, theyll lose to Northern Iowa or WVU

OK, but make sure to make miniature homemade Smart jerseys for them.

Likely sarcasm, but thats somewhat accurate.

Arizona going down at Oregon.

Herpidy Derp Derp

RE: Frankamp

He's done better than I anticipated defensively. However, nobody really went after him. If I was an opposing coach, my gameplan would be attack Frankamp. He's not strong enough, and he will foul. But nobody does. He doesn't have length or elite quickness or strength.

Frankamp looks better than the other PGs at defense because he gives constant effort and stays focused on playing D. But the above post is true, guys really havent gone after him that I can recall off the top of my head.

Well, I for one am somewhat mixed in my emotions about the loss. It's always better to win, obviously, but I've always liked to have one meaningless loss right before the tournament. I have absolutely no evidence to back this up, but I've always felt like it re-focused the team right before the tourney.

Add to it that we were missing Embiid, coming off senior night, and finally saw the Andrew Wiggins that the less-educated public and pundits (the ones who only judge a player based on what he does with the ball in his hands) have been jabbering about not seeing, and frankly I think there was a lot of positive to take away.

I do hate Bob Huggins fat ham face, but I'd rather drop one on the road to a team I don't really care about than to a fanbase that will begin to start puffing their chests like they actually proved something (see: Rusty).

Tough loss, but I really loved watching Wiggins take over and how the team - especially traylor - responded. If we had won that game, I'd have said without reservation that was the single greatest performance by a Jayhawk I've ever seen.

On the flip side, right after I went to the mattresses defending Perry Ellis, he decides to just shit all over my shoes. Just a horrible, weak, soft, game from a player who can and should do much better.