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Mother****erJones 06-13-2014 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10689318)
Yeah, you really showed him about losing in that Superbowl and stuff.

Well gota remind him about that. He isn't champ bailey. Who was a true shutdown corner. He's a bitch.

WhiteWhale 06-13-2014 03:22 PM

If Smith's stupid ass gets suspended for four games we're gonna face Tom Brady and Peyton Manning with Cooper as our #1 CB.

Geezus...

ct 06-13-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10689300)
Yuck. I'm not okay with this. I think Flowers was a target to be cut next year, but we got a lot weaker at CB and I don't feel that confident in Parker or Gaines or Owens to backfill nearly as well. I don't at all understand why we didn't get trade value out of him.

But oh well… I don't think we were going to compete this year anyway, and Flowers was a target for a massive pay cut soon anyway, so it's not the end of the world. Him being a nickel corner given fit with Sutton's scheme, he was definitely overpaid.

Plus, even if we didn't get trade comp… Albert and Flowers are both probably going to get us a 3rd round comp pick. So we did essentially get draft picks out of them.

just to clarify, no compensation picks for players released, only FAs who sign elsewhere

Pablo 06-13-2014 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10689324)
If Smith's stupid ass gets suspended for four games we're gonna face Tom Brady and Peyton Manning with Cooper as our #1 CB.

Geezus...

Just gotta have faith! Anything is possible if you believe hard enough!

thabear04 06-13-2014 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10689311)
@dthomashof: @ChrisHarrisJr 43-8 bitch!! Never forget Peyton's choke! Keep playing with that shit bag defense. You overrated pansies.

My tweet to Chris Harris

I say rep.

Mother****erJones 06-13-2014 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10689327)
Just gotta have faith! Anything is possible if you believe hard enough!

ROFL not with this train wreck of a franchise.

OldSchool 06-13-2014 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10689324)
If Smith's stupid ass gets suspended for four games we're gonna face Tom Brady and Peyton Manning with Cooper as our #1 CB.

Geezus...

I doubt anything will happen to him. Not a repeat offender, at least not that I'm aware of, and didn't hit anyone.

WhiteWhale 06-13-2014 03:25 PM

I see there are a lot of people who think this release makes KC a better team.

You guys are ****ing morons. I understand the move, but don't make this out like it's addition by subtraction.

WhiteWhale 06-13-2014 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10689331)
I doubt anything will happen to him. Not a repeat offender, at least not that I'm aware of, and didn't hit anyone.

I sure as hell hope not, but wasn't he charged with DUI?

I don't think they give a whole lot of free passes for DUI's.

Titty Meat 06-13-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10689318)
Yeah, you really showed him about losing in that Superbowl and stuff.

The guy has won more playoff games than the Chiefs franchise lets diss em!

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-13-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10689338)
The guy has won more playoff games than the Chiefs franchise lets diss em!

So, let me see if I have this correct:

When the Chiefs make a dumbassed move, let's circle the wagons, shout "THAT'S MUH TEAM" and never talk shit to an opponent because the opponent is superior to "muh team"?

Is that how this works?

Iconic 06-13-2014 03:35 PM

Does anyone know how often Flowers played in the slot this year? Just Curious.

chiefzilla1501 06-13-2014 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ct (Post 10689326)
just to clarify, no compensation picks for players released, only FAs who sign elsewhere

****. You're right, forgot about that. In that case, just a shitty case of planning that they didn't move him at least for picks.

penguinz 06-13-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10689344)
****. You're right, forgot about that. In that case, just a shitty case of planning that they didn't move him at least for picks.

He was un-tradable because of his contract.

OldSchool 06-13-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 10689343)
Does anyone know how often Flowers played in the slot this year? Just Curious.

You could just count Cooper's snaps and subtract the snaps in which Flowers was injured from that. Pretty much any time that Cooper was on the field, Flowers was in the slot.

bevischief 06-13-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10689344)
****. You're right, forgot about that. In that case, just a shitty case of planning that they didn't move him at least for picks.


:banghead: Really again? jfc...

GloryDayz 06-13-2014 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ghak99 (Post 10689245)
This season is going to be ugly.

STHs are:

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...the-office.gif

GloryDayz 06-13-2014 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Iconic (Post 10689343)
Does anyone know how often Flowers played in the slot this year? Just Curious.

He mail-ordered rubbers by the case, so I think a LOT actually...

gblowfish 06-13-2014 03:45 PM

Get ready for 6-10.
I'm feeling it.

Sweet Daddy Hate 06-13-2014 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10689360)
Get ready for 6-10.
I'm feeling it.

Sounds about right.

Mother****erJones 06-13-2014 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10689360)
Get ready for 6-10.
I'm feeling it.

With this schedule 8 wins will be the ceiling

keg in kc 06-13-2014 03:47 PM

Not really surprised he's gone but how could he have had zero trade value?

Pablo 06-13-2014 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 10689360)
Get ready for 6-10.
I'm feeling it.

**** yes!

I hope season tickets are still available.

chiefqueen 06-13-2014 03:48 PM

Is he a Bronco yet?

Bewbies 06-13-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 10689318)
Yeah, you really showed him about losing in that Superbowl and stuff.

No shit. As if tweeting that isn't bad enough, you it's share your dumbass tweets with others to brag. LMAO

penguinz 06-13-2014 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10689366)
Not really surprised he's gone but how could he have had zero trade value?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Three7s 06-13-2014 03:53 PM

This season will suck horribly. Won't be long before the "suck for *insert random QB here*" campaigns will begin.

keg in kc 06-13-2014 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 10689371)
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

That's generally pretty easy to work around.

OldSchool 06-13-2014 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10689366)
Not really surprised he's gone but how could he have had zero trade value?

$10 mil cap hit.

Can't cover the slot particularly well.

Can't play the perimeter particularly well against bigger Wrs.

Poor season in 2013.

Who was going to trade for that?

ghak99 06-13-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 10689264)
maybe you can root for the team dumb enough to sign Flowers instead. :rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 10689288)
I wouldn't be too surprised to see Sean Smith cut next. What a bonehead. With the lack of depth he will probably be safe though until next year unless Chiefs bring someone in before camp.

Your and idiot.

Everyone knew Flowers was gone next season. The 7.5 million isn't going to get Smith signed. If they use it to extend Houston, ok, whatever, but this season is going to be ugly. Anyone who says otherwise has their head up their homer ass.

You can't cut your top two corners in a passing league while replacing them with jack and shit and expect fans to want to watch the games.

Deberg_1990 06-13-2014 04:10 PM

Well....bye
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jspchief 06-13-2014 04:12 PM

Team is not going to be better for losing Flowers, but that contract was too big.

Good luck B-Flo, I'll miss you playing for the Chiefs.

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The Bad Guy 06-13-2014 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10689338)
The guy has won more playoff games than the Chiefs franchise lets diss em!

So you can't criticize a player because your team hasn't won a playoff game?

What kind of ****ing stupid logic is that?

WhiteWhale 06-13-2014 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 10688963)
Growth? He got benched and barely saw the field after being exposed.

Parker? ****a please. He's a JAG at best.

Owens is a JAG.

There is no talent at the CB position anymore. When you're pinning your hope on a pair of UDFA's...your secondary is in trouble.

Cooper never got benched. He was moved to the 3rd CB after Robinson got demoted and it stayed that way all year, except when Flowers was hurt and he was starting.

He played badly late in the season without question, but he was on the field giving up plays.

Mother****erJones 06-13-2014 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10689393)
So you can't criticize a player because your team hasn't won a playoff game?

What kind of ****ing stupid logic is that?

Realize who your talking to.

WhiteWhale 06-13-2014 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 10688990)
So people are mad cause we just cut our 3rd best corner back from last season? Flowers was great, but he was terrible last year and doesn't fit in the system. Cutting him and extending Houston soon >>>> Keeping him and hoping to re-sign Houston next year.

:facepalm:

Just Passin' By 06-13-2014 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10689281)
Matthieu was as much of a corner as Kenny Vaccaro was a corner last year.

So you're saying you could take Matthieu and stick him in Cooper's role as an outside corner and expect him to be a better player than Cooper is? Good luck with that.

I'm saying Matthieu was a much better corner last year than was Cooper. It's not close. Your apparent need to marginalize Matthieu is stupid, but noted.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-13-2014 04:50 PM

Cpers squirting all over the board

Pasta Little Brioni 06-13-2014 04:52 PM

Oh and Harris Jr. Is a piece of shit that can't speak English

Titty Meat 06-13-2014 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 10689393)
So you can't criticize a player because your team hasn't won a playoff game?

What kind of ****ing stupid logic is that?

Whats stupid is calling Manning a choke artist when he has more wins and superbowls than our coach. What kind of ****ing stupid logic is that?

thabear04 06-13-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10689375)
$10 mil cap hit.

Can't cover the slot particularly well.

Can't play the perimeter particularly well against bigger Wrs.

Poor season in 2013.

Who was going to trade for that?

But he made the pro bowl somehow.

Just Passin' By 06-13-2014 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10689458)
Whats stupid is calling Manning a choke artist when he has more wins and superbowls than our coach. What kind of ****ing stupid logic is that?

Since one does not exclude the other, the logic is fine.

TribalElder 06-13-2014 04:56 PM

RIP

http://dailysnark.com/wp-content/upl...efs-Scream.jpg

http://chiefscommand.com/wp-content/...71-610x360.jpg

Titty Meat 06-13-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 10689399)
Realize who your talking to.

Somebody who tells truth about our team?

Brandon Flowers is a great example of this. I pointed out how he looked like he was done last year and got flamed for it.

TribalElder 06-13-2014 05:03 PM

Jerseys on sale now

ShowtimeSBMVP 06-13-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10689463)
Somebody who tells truth about our team?

Brandon Flowers is a great example of this. I pointed out how he looked like he was done last year and got flamed for it.

You do know he was playing on a bad knee all year?

Titty Meat 06-13-2014 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10689469)
You do know he was playing on a bad knee all year?

You do know players are always playing with injuries all year?

Pasta Little Brioni 06-13-2014 05:12 PM

Never go full billay

bevischief 06-13-2014 05:14 PM

No go full rico either.

xztop123 06-13-2014 05:20 PM

Dont let the door hit you on the way out

FloridaMan88 06-13-2014 05:21 PM

Theme of the offseason...

Do I have a problem with the Chiefs releasing Flowers? Not really.

But who are they replacing him with?

bevischief 06-13-2014 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10689492)
Theme of the offseason...

Do I have a problem with the Chiefs releasing Flowers? Not really.

But who are they replacing him with?

Casper the ghost.

ILChief 06-13-2014 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10689492)
Theme of the offseason...

Do I have a problem with the Chiefs releasing Flowers? Not really.

But who are they replacing him with?

Cooper, Parker, gaines

Snapplez 06-13-2014 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10689492)
Theme of the offseason...

Do I have a problem with the Chiefs releasing Flowers? Not really.

But who are they replacing him with?

Hopes and Dreams

TRR 06-13-2014 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10689492)
Theme of the offseason...

Do I have a problem with the Chiefs releasing Flowers? Not really.

But who are they replacing him with?

Theme of the offseason is replacing vets with guys they believe have the talent to play at or better than their level.

Obviously Dorsey/Reid believe in young guys like Cooper, Bailey, Catapano, Fisher, Commings, Johnson, Jenkins, Hemmingway, Kelce, etc.
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Prison Bitch 06-13-2014 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 10689492)
Theme of the offseason...

Do I have a problem with the Chiefs releasing Flowers? Not really.

But who are they replacing him with?

Someone cheaper, which we need to do given our cap situation.

Pasta Little Brioni 06-13-2014 05:34 PM

Player development will tell our tale for the season.

kcxiv 06-13-2014 05:36 PM

players come and players go. good luck to him. Time to move on.

bevischief 06-13-2014 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10689513)
Player development will tell our tale for the season.

Or tail spin.

Simply Red 06-13-2014 05:37 PM

Patrick Surtain is looking good ya'll!

FringeNC 06-13-2014 05:38 PM

Lots of histrionics over releasing an average CB making a premium salary.

htismaqe 06-13-2014 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRR (Post 10689507)
Theme of the offseason is replacing vets with guys they believe have the talent to play at or better than their level.

Obviously Dorsey/Reid believe in young guys like Cooper, Bailey, Catapano, Fisher, Commings, Johnson, Jenkins, Hemmingway, Kelce, etc.
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One has to wonder if that's a solid strategy. Normally when going young you would sprinkle in some high level talent from early in the draft. Instead they're going with cast-offs, UDFAs, and guys that might not ever be fully healthy.

Titty Meat 06-13-2014 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 10689482)
Never go full billay

You trying out for the Chiefs cheerleaders? You should you go menstrual anytime someone says something negative about the franchise.

Three7s 06-13-2014 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 10689518)
Patrick Surtain is looking good ya'll!

What about Ty Law?

Pasta Little Brioni 06-13-2014 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocolate Hog (Post 10689535)
You trying out for the Chiefs cheerleaders? You should you go menstrual anytime someone says something negative about the franchise.

I am trying to help you improve so you can make the list next year

Deberg_1990 06-13-2014 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 10689520)
Lots of histrionics over releasing an average CB making a premium salary.

You expectd anything less from OverReactionPlanet.com?

Three7s 06-13-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 10689520)
Lots of histrionics over releasing an average CB making a premium salary.

Average or not, we have dog and shit behind him. What'd you expect?

KCinNY 06-13-2014 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Three7s (Post 10689540)
What about Ty Law?

We should give Chris Dishman a look.

xztop123 06-13-2014 06:21 PM

Nearly every CB on our team right now ran under a 4.4 40....

Hog's Gone Fishin 06-13-2014 06:22 PM

We gotta just have faith in Dorsey / Reid right now. They know WAAAAY more than we do .

Rausch 06-13-2014 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 10689603)
We gotta just have faith in Dorsey / Reid right now. They know WAAAAY more than we do .

I no longer have faith in Dorsey...

kcjoker 06-13-2014 06:28 PM

We couldn't atleast trade him for a draft pick? terrible

Rausch 06-13-2014 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kcjoker (Post 10689636)
We couldn't atleast trade him for a draft pick? terrible

I doubt it.

We're in win-now mode people!

-King- 06-13-2014 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 10689336)
I sure as hell hope not, but wasn't he charged with DUI?

I don't think they give a whole lot of free passes for DUI's.

He'll get fined 2 game checks and that's it. He won't be suspended.

Fritz88 06-13-2014 06:41 PM

So was it Flowers not playing well or terrible FS and PR?

He is the best CB in this team but I understand why he was cut. He's too pricey.

We need epic pass rush this season or its 6 wins max.

Mr. Laz 06-13-2014 06:45 PM

rebuilding

DTLB58 06-13-2014 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10688860)
5-11 imo

Dez Bryant totally owned Flowers and they won that game in spite of him not because of him.

Through the years Brandon has been torched by all the bigger/Taller WR's he's faced on the outside. And if you haven't noticed, the league is full of them right now. It'll be okay.

OldSchool 06-13-2014 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DTLB58 (Post 10689678)
Dez Bryant totally owned Flowers and they won that game in spite of him not because of him.

Through the years Brandon has been torched by all the bigger/Taller WR's he's faced on the outside. And if you haven't noticed, the league is full of them right now. It'll be okay.

This X100.

DTLB58 06-13-2014 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Count Zarth (Post 10688865)
And we have absolutely no one behind him.

I think he was gonna be the slot CB this year anyways and they signed Chris Owens who is younger and much faster.

Rausch 06-13-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10689252)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Andy doing it HIS way, with the guys HE wants. I like it. Phillip Gaines...step right up young man! <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Chiefs&amp;src=hash">#Chiefs</a></p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/statuses/477552690793160704">June 13, 2014</a></blockquote>
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