Oops. Thank you.

Well.....the glove is the only reason Bridgewater wasn't the first qb taken.

Bridgewaters college resume, and tape was insane.

I honestly can't believe people still think Jay Cutler is a good QB.

Most people apparently think Nick Foles sucks, you know, the guy who set the single game touchdown record EVER in the NFL. But yeah, I'm sure he won't be better than Alex Smiff.

It's not that Cutler is a good QB; it's that Alex is so underwhelming as a QB that it's not an easy decision between the two.

But he throws really hard!!!!

Yeah, I'd have to put Smiff ahead of Mr. Cutler, though.

He had 3 game winning drives last year and 20 in his career. He's a good quarterback, just not a great one.

And if we're talking about blaming the OL, Cutler has had that excuse ever since he left Denver. Chicago's line is a POS.

His record is 32-19 in the last four seasons.

We'll see if Alex can win with a bad OL. I KNOW Cutler can.

I'm not voting for any of them because I want to draft our own Got Damn Quarterback.

So why aren't they entitled to the same "bad defenses" excuse that Alex gets for the entire second half of last year?

I wasn't aware there was an asterisk next to Smith's win % the last 3 years.

And seriously, bad defense their entire careers? Stafford is 1-32 against teams with a winning record. 1-32 for his career.

You thinks that's all bad luck or bad defense?

Also true to Chief's form, our defense wasn't just bad the last half of the year, it was the worst in football and historically bad. Bad.

Why are you so inclined to give excuses for them... yet not your own QB?

Maybe that's the better question.

The Detroit defense gave up an average of 22.3 pts per game in their final 8 games.

The KC defense gave up 29.8 pts per game in their final 8 games.


Add to that: KC in year 1 offensively. Stafford's had the same OC for the last 4-5 yrs.

Didn't read thru all the stuped ass responses but only 3 QBs have a better win /loss % than Smith over the last 3 years.

Manning
Brady
Rodgers

End of thread !

BOOM

I also know Cutler has missed 13 games over that time period.

And Alex missed half a season.

I am a Chiefs fan.
I judge individual players by TEAM stats.
I am a Chiefs fan.

Wrong answer. The correct answer would have been Alex missed 12 over the same time period. :)

I don't think most Chief fans pay attention to much outside of KC. Foles threw for 26 TD's to 2 INT's. Just insane stuff.

that's about how I thought it would be.

the day the season ends and alex has averaged 275 yards per game that season I will buy an alex smith jersey

Who's better than Alex Smith?

I dont care, he's my QB whether I like it or not (I like it)... steady veteran leadership with a winning percentage 4th among all QB's over the last three years.

A classic late bloomer - no thanks to the Niners - who is now with a coach who actually wants him and wasnt just pounding on his shoulder pads and blowing smoke up his ass like Harbaugh.

And the best part for me personally is that I dont have to sit around grinding my teeth and rage crying about it... every time I think the negativity is getting to be too much for me here, I just kick back and remember that it isnt me who's quit and burned all his shit before the goddamned season even started.

This stat, that stat, **** stats... who won sunday afternoon?

And a lot of people don't trust that Andy Reid can recognize QB talent.

Well, I'm afraid in this case he might have chosen the wrong talent when he went after Smith instead of Foles. I don't think anybody expected Foles to do what he did. If they did Andy would have brought him over and Kelley wouldn't have started Vick the started at the beginning of the season.

"Our next QB, regardless of where he comes from."

- Homers, True Fans, 2016

Funny in that playoff Gameday thread you were sucking Alex off all game.

Good lord. Go take a nap douche.

It definitely begs the question whether or not they tried to trade for Foles.

It still gives me hope that Reid will continue to draft and develop young QBs even though they have Smith locked up.

If Cutler wasn't such dog shit, than why did Denver decide they'd rather take their chances with Kyle Orton and Tim ****ing Tebow. At least Alex got replaced by a guy who took SF to the Super Bowl. Cutler is such a piece of shit his own teammates in Chicago were questioning his toughness. I wouldn't want Cutler anywhere near my team.

He deserved it. Great game by Alex that day.

SO WHAT THE **** IS THIS?

http://i.imgur.com/z8Cm27V.gif

Great throw. Hit him in the palm. Put it where only his receiver could make a play on the ball. Shame he dropped it.

Good QBs never have a throw that gets away from them?

You're such a life-wasting ass.

Don't know how this myth got started.

The media and fans questioned his toughness.

His teammates defended him.

All QB make bad throws.

It's not a myth. Cutler is a pussy.

There were teammates of Cutler that between the lines called him a pussy

Okie-doke.

"Our shields are holding firm, Captain".

The only man in preseason history to throw an ugly pass... c'mon man, this is serious shit you gomers.

That one playoff game when he left everyone was all over him for leaving and standing there until they heard how bad the injury actually was. Seems like the image that was left during the game hasn't left some people's minds even though it turned out to be justified.

I think you're Michael Sam for Alex Smith

Really? His preseason play was total shit in every game.

There's a reason we didn't score a TD in preseason, and it ain't all the OL.

IIRC, San Francisco had the #5 defense in the league one of those years; the #3 defense the other year; and the majority of the wins last year came when the KC defense was playing well. In fact, for a lot of those early wins last year Alex didn't even throw one touchdown.

Maybe there should be an asterisk.

I absolutely hate using a team stat (wins) to justify individual play.

The problem with that, and I agree with you, there isn't a more team centric person than Alex Smith.

He is the least arrogant cocky qb I have ever seen. He has no swagger in him.

That doesn't really matter though.

Using a stat to justify QB play in which the QB can throw for 125 yards, 2 picks and no TDs, yet still get credit for, is crap.

It's so misleading. Alex had some horrendous games during our win streak.

His best most well played games as a QB were games we lost.

Which makes the most sense.

The Chiefs a team where all of the elite talent of the team is built around the defense, struggled when its two best players on defense went down with injuries, leaving a average qb to try to gun sling with better qbs, who have better talent around them.

Its just the way it is.

I mean, look at it this way.

Peyton Manning is throwing to Demaryus, Molly Welker, Eric Decker, Julius Thomas.

Alex Smith is throwing to
Anthony Fasano, Dex McCluster, Dwayne Bowe, and Donny Avery.



Hardly seems fair.

Good point, but he also threw to Charles to the tune of 70 receptions last year.

With good reason. Honestly, if kelce can playay, the offense could be alright

As much as people want to knock the weapons around Smith, he doesn't do them any favors either.

He's a cerebral guy, to a fault and it hurts his timing. Times when he just lets it go, are times taht he plays well. He just doesn't do it enough because he's so afraid of turning it over.

Turn overs do hurt, but I don't think its any coincidence that our own head Coach has talked about how he wants him to be more aggressive.

You are talking about the Patriot Way bullshit is why Cutler got traded.

He will be this year. I think he was in the preseason, and it led to some uncharacteristic picks for him

Not really.

1 was, where he's trying to fit into a tight window (he was late with the throw though)

the other was just a shitty read/play.

I don't think he would of tried them last year. Imo

The first 1, doubtful.

The second one was a slant. He threw those alot last year.

I like Smith but unless he can start becoming more aggressive he isn't going to be anything more than average..I would like to see him get some better targets to throw to but unless he plays more aggressive it will be a waste

If Bowe plays like some people here are hoping, JC stays healthy, Kelce takes off, and the other WR step up at least some..aling with Smith becoming more aggressive I think the team will do pretty good..as long as the line can hold a pocket for a few seconds

But I am not holding my breath

This.

Alex does better when he doesn't "think" or over analyze. Just react. But he is constantly thinking and it gets in the way of his just playing. You can see times when he is just reacting and he does better than when he tries to think too hard.

And that is what you have -- a very good quarterback who will rarely hurt your team or cost you games, who will execute for his playmakers, and the more playmakers he has to distribute the ball to, the further you will go in the playoffs. But his lack of killer instinct and his risk aversion will keep him from, like you said, being anything more than average among the 32 starting NFL quarterbacks.

You could do a lot worse, but you aren't going to have an elite/near elite QB -- the kind who have won every super bowl since Brad Johnson 10 years ago.

Who's better?

Peyton Manning
Phyllis Rivers
Tom Brady
Ben Roethlisberger
Andrew Luck
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Ryan
Cam Newton

I'd probably put Alex Smith somewhere between 10-15. There are 8 others listed below and I think Alex Smith would make it somewhere in the next 5 spots if there was a ranking. I can't put an actual number on it. It's just after the "elite" franchise guys, there are a bunch of middle of the pack guys that can fall anywhere between 10-20 depending on who you ask. Ask 10 people and you'll get 10 different answers etc. (and I know some people will complain about Eli Manning not being elite. Sorry, I just never thought he was an elite QB because he's just played so many shitty games and when I think elite I think of his brother. Even Eli has more rings, he's never had a Peyton Manning level type of game, at least none that I can remember, and if he has they've been rare).

(In no particular order)

Alex Smith

Joe Flacco
Andy Dalton
Colin Kaepernick
Russell Wilson
Jay Cutler
Matt Stafford
Eli Manning
Tony Romo

Teams that are desperate, delusional, too early to tell, or are ridin' the rookie train to a high '15 draft pick:

Oakland
Buffalo
Miami
NY Jets
Tennessee
Houston
Jacksonville
Cleveland
St Louis
Arizona
Philly (though I guess Foles "could' belong in the above tier, but I'll be honest he's in this group because I haven't seen much of him, and he hasn't been a starter for long).
Washington
Minnesota
Tampa Bay

I chose 23 of them. I may have selected too few. Who'd a thunk?

did people see the change between Tom Brady in the 1st half/2nd half of the Miami game.



protection/weapons make a huge difference for all quarterbacks

QBs THAT ARE CURRENTLY BETTER THAN ALEX
Tom Brady
Peyton Manning
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers
Matt Ryan
Matt Stafford
Colin Kaepernick
Russell Wilson
Andrew Luck
Ben Roethlisberger
Cam Newton
Jay Cutler
Tony Romo
Andy Dalton
Nick Foles
Phillip Rivers

QBs THAT ARE QUESTIONABLE, BUT GET THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT OF BEING BETTER THAN ALEX BECAUSE THEY HAVE RINGS
Eli Manning
Joe Flacco

QBs THAT ALEX IS CURRENTLY BETTER THAN, BUT COULD CHANGE VERY SOON
EJ Manuel
Geno Smith
Robert Griffin III
Derek Carr
Ryan Tannehill
Jake Locker

QBs THAT ALEX IS JUST BETTER THAN
Shaun Hill
Carson Palmer
Chad Henne
Matt Cassel
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Josh Mccown
Brian Hoyer

That means I have Alex as #19, with the potential to drop much lower if some of the young guns develop sooner than later.

The Eli/Joe thing shouldn't even be in question.

Do you think the Giants/Ravens win a SB with Alex?

**** no.

I mean....you are right. Eli has had two great runs and the rest of his career has either been mediocre or bad.

Flacco had an incredible run when he won his SB, but has had a mediocre career up until that point (and after).

I guess you are right. It shouldnt be in question.

I personally think Eli has been well above mediocre for most of his career.

He has 8 seasons of at least 21 TD passes.

Alex has ONE.

That's that garguantuan gap between a shitbag like Eli and a waste of our goddamn time named Alice Smiff.

If Jake Locker didn't have such a fragile vagina, would he be considered a better QB than most of you currently consider him to be now? I've always thought that he was a relatively decent quarterback with a frag-vag.

Locker >>>>>>> Smith

a dogs red dick

LMAO

I presume the following has been posted in this thread?

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I'm not trying to troll, but why did 54 percent of voters say Matt Ryan? Are we really to the point where Matt Ryan is a better option than Alex Smith? A guy who is 1-4 in the playoffs with guys like Roddy White, Julio Jones, and Tony Gonzalez? A guy who has never achieved a 100 QB rating with arguably the most dominant offense in the NFL? Good grief.

LOL.

There isnt a soul on planet earth who isnt an Alex Smith homer who would choose him over Matt Ryan.

I'm not an Alex Smith homer. I would absolutely take him over Matt Ryan. Alex Smith dominates in the postseason. Matt Ryan shits the bed.

Brilliant tie in. :clap:

2 of his 4 losses were against that years super bowl winners.

The other 2 losses were to that years super bowl losers.

All his losses were to super bowl teams.

And what kind of rushing attack has he had in the meantime?

As if Alex has 4 playoff wins and a career 100 passer rating. Even while you make a good point about Ryan's plethora of receiving talent, I would take Ryan over Smith any day of the week. I've seen him attack opposing defenses.

ROFL

They both have 1 single playoff win.

This is a bad tweet and we aren't even on twitter.

Wrong. Their respective teams have 1 single playoff win. This isn't tennis. We don't judge wins and losses on solely the QB. Look at the individual stats. Ryan sucked against Arizona, put up zero in New York, and stroked balls against Green Bay.

Ryan gets his team to the playoffs more.

The Falcons went 4 out of 5 years. Alex has been twice.