He played it during the Pre-Season while Martin took over Hali's spot. If you watched some of the rush packages with Ford, Houston, and Hali in, they put Ford in Houston's position while sliding Houston inside.

Ford can come in and play ROLB next year, but is at least one more full year after this year if he is gonna be expected to play LOLB.

I think he would be a difference maker at ROLB because of his tools as a pass rusher and that's what he would be doing 80-90% of the time as a right backer.

In coverage and against the run though...no way is he even close to being ready. Teams would target him in both of those areas constantly.

I doubt it.

And Bowe is having a bad season for a 3rd WR. I can't see us paying him that money to block downfield...

This makes no sense.

If he were actually the team's 3rd WR, 41 catches in 10 games isn't bad. He's actually leading the team in receptions. And, I know 41 catches at this point in the season isn't great, at all.

What team has a no 1 WR with 0 TD's after 9 games?

His 4 catches a game could be replaced by anyone and he's getting top 10 money for a WR...

Apparently they can't......considering none of our other WRs are doing it.

Because our WR's are $#it. It's what happens when you completely ignore the position.

That doesn't make Bowe a good player - it shows how stupid it was to ignore the position in both the draft and free agency...

Yeah, of they hadn't ignored it, they might be 7-3 like Denver

You're making it sound like we could replace Bowe with some team's #2 or #3 WR or even a rookie draft pick.

Or even... dare I say it? Keenan Allen. The dude everybody thinks is the greatest WR to ever play the game just because he had a good game against Kendrick ****ing Lewis and Dunta Robinson.

I'm not passing blame on Smith. Not at all. That's simply the nature of the way our offense is working at the moment, and it's winning us games. It's also due to the fact that there's no depth at the WR position, so Bowe has to put up with the team's best coverage every single play.

It's really tough being a WR in this environment. Every catch is of magnified importance far more than in an offense like San Diego's.

Bowe's playing really well this year. No, he doesnt quite have the numbers you'd hope for in terms of TDs, but he's still playing well

During the Vermeil years, did it matter when the offense made a non-turnover mistake?

**** no. That offense was explosive as hell. It took mistakes and kicked them in the balls.

Tony Gonzalez dropped an easy 20-yard pass? Whatever. Priest would just take a screen for the first down and the same pass would be attempted and then completed on the next set of downs. Holding penalty? R-E-L-A-X.

This offense isn't afforded those luxuries. It can't just suffer a holding penalty and then expect to get out of it no problem. And it also means that every time a player is targeted, we need those catches to come in. We're getting a high percentage of them, but that's not good enough. It needs to be EVERY down.

Frankly, I can probably count the number of WRs on one hand in the past 5 years who made a living by being that steady dependable reception no matter the circumstances.

Jordy Nelson, Anquan Boldin, Steve Smith, Reggie Wayne... really, that's all I got.

That's exactly what I'm saying.

Bowe makes more money than ALL those WR's.

Does that make sense?

We should pay him that just because he's the best of a bad group?...

Golden Tate would have been a really nice addition. The kid is clutch and rarely ever drops the ball.

Just by averages Bowe should end up with 65 catches. No that is not a lot or anything like that. I think we would all like to see a few more passes to WRs. I don't however think that is what this offense is particularly designed for. Andy Reid had success with marginal stats from the WR position while in Philly. I would be curious as to the number of receptions to their top WR not named TO.

Pick a #2 WR from a mortal team at that position. So anybody but the Donks or Packers, basically.

Do you honestly believe that dude would be THAT much better than Bowe given the surrounding cast of WRs, the cautious-yet-effective play of Smith, and the fact that 95% of the routes run would terminate at 15 yards down the field?

The contract is unfortunate, and if the Chiefs can get out of it, I absolutely think they should this offseason. But the circumstances are far more complicated than "Bowe sucks because production is down."

There are a shit ton of WRs whom I would rather have over Bowe right now that aren't currently the #1 on their team.

Name one whose production would be OMG TOTES BETTER than what Bowe is doing right now.

More than likely the numbers would be about equal if those guys played for this team with this QB throwing to them this season. And in most cases excluding freakshows like Randall Cobb or Emmanuel Sanders (if you can even call him the #2 WR) the production would be just as underwhelming.

Yes, there are a bunch of WR2s I'd rather have than Bowe. That doesn't mean they'd have a TD by now or 1000 yards at the end of the season.

http://www.wptz.com/sports/extra-sho...fense/29806502

Extra shot of Bailey helping charge Chiefs' defense
By The Sports Xchange
UPDATED 6:15 PM EST Nov 18, 2014

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- It has taken almost eight years for Kansas City Chiefs defensive end Allen Bailey to find a home on the football field.

After four seasons of being moved to different positions while playing for the University of Miami Hurricanes, and then three more years of being a jack of all trades on the Kansas City defensive line, Bailey has spent the 2014 season playing left defensive end and only left defensive end. It has been a motivator for him and revelation for the Chiefs as they try to repeat their postseason position from last season.

"I found a home," Bailey said as he prepared to play a Thursday night game against the Oakland Raiders. "I know I feel more comfortable. I think I've been able to contribute."

The Chiefs obviously agree with that assessment - last week they finalized a four-year contract extension with the former third-round selection in the 2011 NFL Draft. It's a $25 million deal with $15 million in guaranteed money, including a $10 million signing bonus.

Bailey is one of the faceless players who have lifted the Chiefs to the upper level of the league's defenses. After 10 games, Kansas City is No. 8 in fewest yards allowed and No. 1 against the pass. The Chiefs are No. 2 in fewest points allowed. Pro Bowl defenders like safety Eric Berry, nose tackle Dontari Poe and outside linebackers Justin Houston and Tamba Hali are known around the league.

But, it has been players like free safety Husain Abdullah, slot cornerback Chris Owens, inside linebacker Josh Mauga and Bailey that have lifted their play and made coordinator Bob Sutton's defense the engine that has driven the team to a 7-3 record and a share of first place in the AFC West.

In 10 games, Bailey has taken part in 29 total tackles, just one less than he had all of last season. He has four sacks, or two more than he produced through his first three seasons in the league. Bailey has been credited with seven pressures on the quarterback, also two more than he had in his previous years.

"He's really made a tremendous amount of progress, starting last year," said Sutton. "I just think the more he's played, the better he's got and I think the arrows really point up on him. He's made himself into a real effective first and second down player. We always thought he had the skill to be effective on third down because he's got speed and he's got range.

"I think he's just really become a much better all-around football player."

Bailey is a native of Hog Hammock, a community on Sapelo Island, just off the coast of Georgia, where he commuted to school not only by bus, but a ferry. Gifted with one of those chiseled and athletic bodies, Bailey ended up with the Hurricanes, where he played 50 games and made multiple starts at left and right defensive end and left defensive tackle.

That story continued through the first three seasons with the Chiefs, as Bailey played for three head coaches and three defensive coordinators. Sutton, head coach Andy Reid and general manager John Dorsey liked what they saw from Bailey last year and made the decision to not pursue starting defensive end Tyson Jackson, who signed as an unrestricted free agent with the Atlanta Falcons. The coaches indicated to him that Jackson's spot was his for the taking. Bailey added some weight, grabbed the position and has not let go.

Now, he has a home, a new contract and he's a major player for a defense that faces some strong offenses in the last month of the season like Denver, Arizona, Pittsburgh and San Diego.

SERIES HISTORY: This is the 108th regular-season meeting between these original members of the American Football League. The Chiefs hold a 55-50-2 edge in those games, including sweeping both games played between the teams last year. K.C. won by 17 points at Arrowhead Stadium in October and by 25 points in a December game in Oakland. The Chiefs hold a 2-1 record in the postseason against Oakland, winning the 1969 AFL Championship Game and an AFC Wild Card game in 1991. Oakland won the game between the teams in the 1968 AFL playoffs.

MEDICAL WATCH: WR A.J. Jenkins (shoulder) and CB Chris Owens (knee) did not participate in practice Tuesday. ... TE Anthony Fasano (knee) and WR Donnie Avery (sports hernia surgery) were limited participants.

GAME PLAN: Not much is going to change in how the Chiefs will strategically approach Oakland for Thursday night's game than how they've built their first seven victories. The 2014 Chiefs are old school, with an offense that loves to run and a defense that will bend, but seldom breaks, while harassing the quarterback. That's how they beat Seattle last Sunday, and it won't be much different against the winless Raiders. They may go after Raiders rookie quarterback Derek Carr with a few more blitzes than they have shown in recent weeks.

MATCHUPS TO WATCH

-- Chiefs inside linebacker Josh Mauga vs. Raiders running back Darren McFadden - Since stepping into the middle of the K.C. defense due to injuries suffered by starters Derrick Johnson and Joe Mays, Mauga has been a solid, if not quite spectacular leader of the Chiefs unit. He's the club's leading tackler, averaging 6.6 tackles per game. He'll be the key to making sure McFadden does not get the Oakland offense moving. McFadden has 576 yards on 142 touches and two touchdown runs. The K.C. defense wants to keep McFadden running east to west, and Mauga will have to lead that charge penetrating the Oakland offensive line.

-- Chiefs tight end Travis Kelce vs. Raiders safety Charles Woodson - Whether veteran tight end Anthony Fasano plays against the Raiders or not, Kelce will be the favorite inside target of quarterback Alex Smith in the passing game against Oakland. The 25-year old Ohio native will see a lot of Woodson, an Ohio native himself. The 38-year old Woodson is playing in his 17th NFL season - Kelce was eight years old when Woodson was an NFL rookie. It will be important for Kelce to provide an outlet for the offense if the Raiders decide to stack the box with eight defenders in hopes of slowing down the ground game.

Allen Bailey is basically proof everyone should STFU on a player until he hits year 3.