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Kaepernick 12-01-2014 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11160240)
Our WRs are not bottom 5....and neither is the offensive line.


Football Outsiders ranks the Chiefs pass protection at #22, not awful but not good. Pretty bad. They looked worse than 22nd last night.


http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol

Sorter 12-01-2014 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty (Post 11160643)
Does anyone have access to the All 22 view and could provide screen shots to show who and if anyone was open for a hot read when Smith was under pressure?

Perhaps.

Kaepernick 12-01-2014 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11160273)
Russell Wilson has put up more passing yardage throwing to Doug Baldwin, Ricardo Lockette and Paul Richardson.

With worse pass protection.

Kaepernick 12-01-2014 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 11160785)
Bridgewater is throwing for more YPG than Smith, and doing so with 800 year old Greg Jennings as his WR1.

It was insane that Bridgewater dropped in the draft just because of 1 bad pro day. It is as if all the QB scouts forgot all of his college tape and focused only on that 1 terrible pro day.

Mind boggling.

Now Manziel was a much bigger risk and he scares me a bit, but I was literally suprised when Dorsey passed on Bridgewater. I saw him fall to 23 and I thought, "Chiefs take him. NO WAY they let him slip further".

Discuss Thrower 12-01-2014 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick (Post 11160805)
It was insane that Bridgewater dropped in the draft just because of 1 bad pro day. It is as if all the QB scouts forgot all of his college tape and focused only on that 1 terrible pro day.

Mind boggling.

Now Manziel was a much bigger risk and he scares me a bit, but I was literally suprised when Dorsey passed on Bridgewater. I saw him fall to 23 and I thought, "Chiefs take him. NO WAY they let him slip further".

They didn't want to challenge Smith's ego. He couldn't handle having a legit competitor for his job.

duncan_idaho 12-01-2014 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11160807)
They didn't want to challenge Smith's ego. He couldn't handle having a legit competitor for his job.

Oh, to have Smith playing out the string on his contract with a young QB waiting in the wings to replace him.

Chiefs would have major leverage and could either give him less cash with more outs, or let him walk and slide in the rook.

Based on what Bridgewater has done this year in a much worse situation, it would be a pretty nice spot to be in.

It would require taking a chance on a first-round QB and getting very little on-field contribution from the 2014 first-round pick. They just couldn't afford to get nothing from that pick this year, I guess.

Oh, wait...

MeatRock 12-01-2014 05:24 PM

The Chiefs handed the keys to Alex just like they did with Cassel. It's ****ing pathetic.

OctoberFart 12-01-2014 05:43 PM

How has Smith only thrown 10 passes over 20 yards?

Jim Lahey 12-01-2014 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 11160875)
How has Smith only thrown 10 passes over 20 yards?

He's just a gutless character

Mav 12-01-2014 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11160262)
Hoyer has done more with his bottom 5 group of WR's than Smith has. Before, Gordon returned.

Hawkins 52 receptions for 718 yards and 2 TDs. (longest 65 yards)
Austin 47 receptions for 568 yards and 2 TDs.
Gabriel 30 receptions for 540 yards and 1 TD. (longest 70 yards).

A bad QB able to find some poor WRs.

Um. Cleveland has Joe thomas Joel Bitonio alex mack and Mitchell Schwartz.

Mav 12-01-2014 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11160807)
They didn't want to challenge Smith's ego. He couldn't handle having a legit competitor for his job.

In a thread of complete reerunation, this might be the dumbest.

What ego? That's one of his biggest problems. Zero swag, ego killer instinct.

ViperVisor 12-01-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11161015)
Um. Cleveland has Joe thomas Joel Bitonio alex mack and Mitchell Schwartz.

Mack is hurt now but back to the Hall of Famer.

According to ProFootballFocus.com, Thomas has allowed a league-low six pressures in 10 games. Six linemen allowed six or more pressures in Week 11 alone.

Left over Right side doesn't matter as much nowadays but to know you have 1 rock solid as as hell guy on your o-line makes things much easier when building crew to protect your QB.

http://i.imgur.com/0tIrv5k.jpg

ThaVirus 12-01-2014 08:35 PM

I'd give up a testicle to have Erich Fisher suddenly turn the corner and become as good as Joe Thomas.

stevieray 12-01-2014 08:52 PM

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..how to be an elite QB in the NFL....this happened last night as well.

Hammock Parties 12-01-2014 08:54 PM

It's a massive league-wide conspiracy against the Chiefs since 2006. Any QB they get is not allowed to throw the ball down the field.

Easy 6 12-01-2014 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11161362)
..how to be an elite QB in the NFL....this happened last night as well.

Its really unbelievable how that happens multiple times every. single. game.

And its never, ever called... its hard to figure.

Hammock Parties 12-01-2014 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11161368)
Its really unbelievable how that happens multiple times every. single. game.

And its never, ever called... its hard to figure.

What games do you watch where you think Eric Fisher never gets away with a hold?

stevieray 12-01-2014 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11161368)
Its really unbelievable how that happens multiple times every. single. game.

And its never, ever called... its hard to figure.

easier when you don't have be worried bout your blindside.

stevieray 12-01-2014 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Count Alex's Wins (Post 11161372)
What games do you watch where you think Eric Fisher never gets away with a hold?

there's holding and then there's a half a sleeper hold.

lewdog 12-01-2014 09:00 PM

Where is that queer Mav anyway????

Kaepernick 12-01-2014 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 11160875)
How has Smith only thrown 10 passes over 20 yards?

That is just who Alex is. How do you have 0 TDs from WRs.

Mav 12-01-2014 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 11161388)
Where is that queer Mav anyway????

I was at the hospital with my 2 month old daughter. .........

johnny961 12-02-2014 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 11161323)
I'd give up a testicle to have Erich Fisher suddenly turn the corner and become as good as Joe Thomas.

Being drafted as high as he was he had better morph into the second coming of Willie Roaf...

BlackOp 12-02-2014 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by johnny961 (Post 11161887)
Being drafted as high as he was he had better morph into the second coming of Willie Roaf...

I give Fisher one more off-season. If he doesn't progress..he's a bust. It IS his first season at LT..after shoulder surgery. It's not like KC passed up on Randy Moss to draft him..it was a terrible year to have high picks in.

Easy 6 12-02-2014 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 11161387)
there's holding and then there's a half a sleeper hold.

Exactly... sure Fisher holds, everyone holds... but this BLATANTLY obvious chokehold bullshit is on another level.

Hammock Parties 12-02-2014 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11161923)
Exactly... sure Fisher holds, everyone holds... but this BLATANTLY obvious chokehold bullshit is on another level.

If you keep continuing to blame this team's lack of success on things other than their lack of talent, you will continue to get your hopes up and your dreams dashed.

We didn't lose to Denver because of a few questionable blocks.

Red Dawg 12-02-2014 07:45 AM

It's so stupid how Alex is expected to be a great QB with a crap OL and crap recievers. When Manning lost Thomas and Sanders and was getting hit by the Rams he couldn't score. When Brady got pummelled, had a gimpy Gronk with Lafell not having emerged they got beat by us and Miami. When Roger OL has poor games he loses. Go back and watch their playoff games.

What Dilfer said was sooo stupid and just shows what an idiot he is. Does tthe Cowboys success have nothing to do with their OL being better?

ping2000 12-02-2014 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 11161888)
I give Fisher one more off-season. If he doesn't progress..he's a bust. It IS his first season at LT..after shoulder surgery. It's not like KC passed up on Randy Moss to draft him..it was a terrible year to have high picks in.


Fisher needs to spend the offseason in the Dominican Republic, working out and taking PED's. Lots of them.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-02-2014 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Count Alex's Wins (Post 11161979)
If you keep continuing to blame this team's lack of success on things other than their lack of talent, you will continue to get your hopes up and your dreams dashed.

We didn't lose to Denver because of a few questionable blocks.

/Thread

Baby Lee 12-02-2014 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Williams (Post 11162002)
/Thread

Who's saying if the game was called better we would have won?

It's an issue that stands on its own.

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-02-2014 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11162020)
Who's saying if the game was called better we would have won?

It's an issue that stands on its own.

There are a lot of issues.

Exposure as frauds,

A shitty draft,

A shitty roster,

Possibly shitty coaching,

why **** me; we've got a whole goddamned carnival here, son!

Wildcat2005 12-02-2014 11:43 AM

"Denver typically relies on four players to do most of its pass-rushing damage, but it clearly saw the success other teams have had in bringing extra pressure at Smith. When teams don’t blitz, Smith ranks an Alex Smith–like 20th in QBR, right about league average. When teams do blitz, his QBR drops from 62.8 to 25.9 — the fifth-worst mark in football."

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nf...rs-and-losers/

Baby Lee 12-02-2014 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat2005 (Post 11162328)
"Denver typically relies on four players to do most of its pass-rushing damage, but it clearly saw the success other teams have had in bringing extra pressure at Smith. When teams don’t blitz, Smith ranks an Alex Smith–like 20th in QBR, right about league average. When teams do blitz, his QBR drops from 62.8 to 25.9 — the fifth-worst mark in football."

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/nf...rs-and-losers/

Because when you blitz the Chiefs O-line, the game is called 'how fast can you sprint untouched?'

Sorter 12-02-2014 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11162345)
Because when you blitz the Chiefs O-line, the game is called 'how fast can you sprint untouched?'

ROFL.

SAUTO 12-02-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mav (Post 11161630)
I was at the hospital with my 2 month old daughter. .........

everything ok?

Mav 12-02-2014 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 11162463)
everything ok?

She had a 102.5 temp. They took blood, a urine sample and a lumbar puncture. We are waiting on her cultures. Thanks for asking bro.


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