Easy for him to say. What could Sony make on this now? A billion dollars? That's some pricey PR.

You know what would really complete this story? Sony makes a billion dollars and uses it to hire a private strike force of mercenaries who they send in to kill Kim Jong Un. Film the whole thing and release the sequel.

If this was available it would probably end most theatres other than in big cities.

I'm cool with that...but I doubt that is true. I think the market would adjust. Places like Alamo Drafthouse work regardless of whether a new release is showing. Hell they have MST3K nights that get packed crowds. And sing/quote alongs and all sorts of stuff.

Ebola is a damn joke.

I just have a hard time paying $15 to get in and then $8 for popcorn, $4 for a drink.

Alamo prices - $10 for ticket - $6 BOTTOMLESS popcorn - $4 BOTTOMLESS soda - $2.50 Pabst :D - $6.50 margarita
...and a full reasonably priced food menu

THAT is a business model that can survive.

Those are the actual prices I paid to see The Hobbit just three days ago at a chain theater in the DC suburbs. Compared to that,

is perfectly reasonable.

You think Mitt Romney actually wants to watch this movie???

Yep. The big chains are already losing a ton of ground here in Texas. Alamo/Studio Movie Grill/Movie Tavern and taking over.

I like this idea...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/drop-the...ang-1418946773

Basically, have the US govt buy the movie rights and then release it into the public domain. Movie would spread through China and into NK in a week.

If I didn't before, I sure do now! Possibly twice...

Good.

Next time I'm in Austin, whenever that is, drinks and tickets are on me. Double if they're showing a Chiefs game.

They also have a bunch of dates where comedians like Greg Proops and Doug Benson host a viewing any craft either a comedy set or history 'lesson' around the movie they choose.

Doug calls them Benson Interruptions, basically his version of MST3K with a couple of comedian friends.

I went to a party today with a ton of high level entertainment business peeps.

There wasn't one person that thought green lighting this movie was a good idea. Arrogance on the part of Sony and arrogance on the part of Rogen.

Also, apparently, Kim is murdered at the end of this film, onscreen, and in a very gruesome manner.

Take it FWIW.

Fwiw, it's the only Hollywood movie I've been interested in even actually watching in, like, a decade...

https://tv.yahoo.com/news/interview-...234915292.html

The Interview’ Release Would Have Damaged Kim Jong Un Internally, Says Rand Expert Who Saw Movie At Sony’s Request

You mean in the scene posted numerous times already?

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...t6vx0odfz1.gif

I honestly have no idea. Just reporting what I heard.

Seriously Dane. I know my last PM was creepy but I HAVE TO KNOW

Stalking Dane doesn't seem nice.

I don't think he thinks my question I sent him was legitimate...

Or if it was, it hit too close to home and he's debating lawyering up and coming after for me for knowing stuff about him that I shouldn't.

If it's the former, it was a legit question I have and I figured Dane would be *the* guy to ask considering I have no other connections.

If it's the latter, I must implore him not to take legal action on me as I mean him no harm.

This all sounds completely normal.

Yeah I'm not doing myself any favors in terms of sounding like a normal person but I've bothered myself with a question and Dane is my only shot of ever getting it answered.

Apparently North Korea is having some problems with their internet today. Gee, I wonder how that happened.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102289459#.



North Korea is having major Internet problems, just days after President Barack Obama promised a proportional response to the devastating hacks against Sony.

The country, which the FBI accused last week of the cyberattack, is suffering from periodic Internet outages, and experts at DYN Research found that recent problems were out of the ordinary, according to a report from North Korea Tech.

"I haven't seen such a steady beat of routing instability and outages in KP before," Doug Madory, director of Internet analysis at Dyn Research, told North Korea Tech. "Usually there are isolated blips, not continuous connectivity problems. I wouldn't be surprised if they are absorbing some sort of attack presently."

In an interview with Re/code, Madory said that even typically strong connections are experiencing disruptions. (CNBC's parent NBC Universal is an investor in Re/code's parent Revere Digital.)

"They're pretty stable networks normally," he told Re/code. "In the last 24 hours or so, the networks in North Korea are under some kind of duress, but I can't tell you exactly what's causing it."

He added that there is no way to know if the outages are the result of an attack, or are just from maintenance or a power outage. Still, "given the timing," a cyberattack is worth considering, he told Re/code.

LMAO

They're not gonna get any Crown Town Ale from Boulevard either!

I read that North Korea only has about 1,000 IP addresses. (The USA has billions). If the entire nation only has that many IP addresses, then apparently it is not very difficult to shut down their internet indefinitely with a DDoS attack.

they probably choked their bandwidth because everyone over there is watching you tube clips of their leader making 18 consecutive holes in one.

I hope Kim is on hold with Comcast, and the recorded message is trying to get him to buy home security services....

I say melt them!

No porn or Chiefsplanet in North Korea today.

If we have a cyberwar with some country, no one is better than us. We have the best coders and ready to go medieval on someone with off the grid slap downs.

The problem is that our electric grids, power plants, water treatment plants etc. are vulnerable as hell. They are easily cracked with password crackers and not updating their infrastructure on a regular basis. I bet 99% don't even fix zero day vulnerabilities.

Just thought of something, the hackers had said they had more sensitive Sony information that they would release if Sony made any more trouble. (Sony sort of acknowledged that more sensitive info was probably stolen)

Perhaps the USA decided to indefinitely kill NK's internet in part to stop the hackers? I imagine they'd still need China's help for a long-term solution, the hackers would just need to sneak a flash drive out or something.

So who isn't posting today that normally shows up on a Monday? Maybe they're North Korean.

Well anybody who doesn't post today is obviously a NK commie bastard!

North Koreas hackers are based in Europe.

Did the terrorists still win?

@timalamo: Breaking news: Sony has authorized screenings of THE INTERVIEW on Christmas Day. We are making shows available within the hour. #Victory

Only if they are connected to the Internet. There are actually some very good security people on the SCADA side.

All of them have to connect to the internet at some point. May not be a direct connection but its still a connection.

Iran's nuclear plant had absolutely no connections to the internet and we still got Stuxnet in there.

Some talking head on tv just said it will be available for viewing in KC.

No, they don't. EMS and SCADA do not require a connection to the Internet.

It wasn't their reactor. It was their centrifuges, specifically the PLCs which controlled them. But you are correct that it wasn't connected to the Internet. It was delivered by other means.

I'm suddenly interested in seeing this and am thinking of scrapping my original xmas plans to stand in line and spend money I wouldn't have to see such a controversial movie.

Caving to pressure a second time. :thumb:

LMAO :thumb:

dude, I know you like to finesse point your points and others. I get it, its your way. Not saying its a bad thing.

You have to update software to vulnerabilities. At some point you have to get the fix, code whatever from the manufacture. Even if its a straight DVD line of possesion from the manufacture to where the DVD goes into the tray, there can still be malware put in the code thats loaded.

The Chinese loaded code in the Cisco routers at the factory. Went undetected. Stole every single nuclear secret we had from ever. Stayed on the network for over 2 years. All the diagrams, plans for nuclear war, capabilities, who we have shared the tech with..... every damn thing.

That wouldn't happen now, the Security infrastructure is more complex and detects every single thing that moves at any time. But, there is always the next thing that you are not prepared to defend.

Dude, you stated: "All of them have to connect to the internet at some point. May not be a direct connection but its still a connection." That's isn't correct. Utility SCADA systems are designed to work standalone.

If you consider a USB stick or DVD to be "part of the Internet," that's wrong too. Sorry.

Nothing says Merry Christmas more than paying $10 a ticket, $10 a tub of popcorn, $7 for a soda and the threat of a nuclear strike on your Hollywood Theater just to pay Seth Rogen.

On a related note I heard North Korea is planting a bunch of Chatty Cathys in the movie theater just so you can't enjoy it.

Everyone who goes to the movie should get two medals. One for standing up to terrorism and another for sitting through a Seth Rogan movie.

I like Seth Rogan.

If you don't then you're a terrorist.

If you like Seth Rogan, you are what is wrong with America. That makes you a terrorist. Or maybe a terrorist magnet. I'm not really sure. I guess it would make you a terrorist, but a different type of terrorist than the terrorists who don't like Seth Rogan.

I can't say I have every enjoyed a Seth Rogan movie. I have enjoyed a few of Seth Rogen's movies, however. :D

I'll take things a terrorist would say for $1000, Alex.

Seth Rogan can be funny to me sometimes, but he is the exact same ****ing character in every movie I have seen him in.

He really just irritates me now.

Alex will check you down to $200 even if the $1000 question is wide open.

:LOL:

Its not "part of the internet" but still considered a vulnerability.

Personally, I don't buy for a second that this was North Korea behind the attack. I think they saw an opportunity to make the world think they were capable of something, and they took it. I also don't buy for one second that the US gov launched a counter attack. I believe this is the work of anonymous. They also threatened Sony if they didn't reverse course and release the movie, so that would explain why Sony is talking about releasing it.

Anonymous is a big clumsy bully. They specialize in brute disruptive attacks based on vulnerabilities that are out in the wild. That's their deal.

DDoS is a brute attack if there ever was one.

Correct. Sony was not a brute attack.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean that Anon was behind the original hack. I think there have been opportunists taking credit, for one reason or another, through this whole ordeal.

They've now announced that they'll be releasing the movie, and that it will be in theaters and VOD on the same day. And the movie's now gotten more press than it would have with an expensive PR campaign.

If this works out as a way to cut out the big chains, we could be watching Sony stepping in shit and coming out smelling like a rose.

Who cares? **** NK! They're just lucky Barry's the POTUS, if it were me they'd need the SDI to keep from being melted!

This.

It's same ol' shitty banter. The style was funny the first or 2nd time. 10 Movies later....not funny anymore, and rather annoying.

If we're getting to pick our targets, wouldn't you rather leave NK alone and take out Hollywood?

Well, they do have nuclear weapons. They aren't very good yet, though.

I'll assume I'd have more than one, but you're point isn't lost...

And if we can nuke their nukes, that'd be fine...

uhh.... no.

People who make movies that most people enjoy live in or near Hollywood. I don't get anything from NK except weird threats to destroy America.

I like Seth Rogan best in Paul.

50/50

Many theater owners are now telling the media that they have been informed by Sony that the movie will be made available on VOD on the same day as the limited theatrical release.

No word yet exactly which VOD service is going to be used.

Hollywood's been working on destroying the U.S. for decades, and it's been a hell of a lot more effective than has NK.

**** that, I want to see it in the theater just to taunt the would-be ****ers and make a mockery of their threats. And when their actual identities have been exposed, they're being pussies will make them all the more of a joke. And if it's NK doing it, the whole country will have been exposed - we just need to make sure every NK citizen knows we made a mockery of their country! They want a fight? Good, I do too! The funy part is we can send-in SK to kick their pussy asses!

I laugh at them, their whore wives, their parents, their grandparents, and their pussy little illegitimate bastard spawn children (that they think are their own).

No, they haven't. This sort of sentiment makes you look like an old raving kook who listens to Glenn Beck or something.

Of course they have. Only the clueless would pretend otherwise.

Well, to think they've been open, honest, and unbiased makes folks look like the kooks who listen to Rachel Maddow, so it goes both ways really.

To say the least they're a group who live a very privileged life and all-too-often use their movie celebrity to push for things that their distorted lives allow them to think is normal.

Look at Brad and Angelina, normal? No! Doing some good things? Maybe. Madonna? LOL...

I know I'm painting with a very broad brush, but they seem to have a rather large density of eccentric freaks compared to the more normal group in the 'burbs...

All I'm saying is, other than saying they understand, they live a life so distant and detached from reality that their opinions are suspect at best.