Like I said Saturday. We would have won had Cliff played the second half of that game. It's not like he was the only one who's defense sucked.

Maybe that lit a fire under him and we get what we saw last night. Who knows... I wouldn't put it past Self to troll Iowa State into thinking they have a chance to win this league and then just shit all over them when the time is right.

It's happened before.

whoa, whoa, whoa. :LOL: You're saying that Bill has tanked games to make others think they have a chance? Wow, I've heard it all.

Not tanked but lost games he could have won to set an example...sure.

ROFL

Good Lord. No, he hasn't lost games to set an example.

Someone has the tinfoil hat on a little too tight this morning.... WOW!

ku fans are the worst


i'm not kidding

lose = complain
win = complain

Right because all KU fans are ****ing reeruned like Bambi....

Don't be stupid in your generalized statements...

please don't group me with you. You're one of the worst posters on this board.

Bambi is a special kind of ruhtard

Very special....

Oh did you hear that Bill Self tanks games and trolls other teams with loses?

Bill knows when to tank a game. The three games he's thrown this season have done wonders for the team.

funny Soren is saying exactly what I've been saying.

Better get to the phone and call him a reerun.

SOREN THE PROPHET HAS SPOKETH

Getting ready for the reerun calls.

Should be fun.

I'd tank early season hoops games to get better talent more playing time for sure. Sure you want to win but If you know you're going to the NCAA anyway you have to get the right mix ready. No more Lucas, no Svi, etc etx


Of course Self always shortens his rotation to 8 or so for conf play and only 8 played last night

Strategic tanking.

KU fans are the worst.

Worked perfectly.

So, it's not so much a motivator, Self just needs the loss to justify his actions to the media or fans or himself...

KU could have played a great game and still lost in Ames. There's a reason ISU has the record they do there. Cliff likely wouldn't have made any difference at all (especially the version that was out on the court that night without a "motor").

This. He may make decisions based on motivating players down the road rather than exploiting matchups in any particular game, but he doesn't roll into the gym saying, "yep. I'm bombing this one."

Hell he hasn't even lost that many games.

I miss TRob...

Playing Lucas 19min vs a speed & three team sure felt a lot like "tanking" to me

Agreed. Cliff must have really done something bad to get himself into Self's doghouse.

That's good stuff. Love these quotes by Oubre, as well.