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O.city 11-03-2015 07:40 PM
Should have tried to trade knife to the Cowboys before the deadline

chiefzilla1501 11-03-2015 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11862758)
The Chiefs will have $40 million in cap space, without restructuring anyone, in 2016. They'll have plenty of room to sign whomever they want.

Knile Davis can hit the road, Hali will be worth half of 2015 ($3 million) IF he doesn't retire and DJ's not going anywhere and will play for less next year as well.

It's pretty silly to worry about such things in early November.
I don't think it's silly to worry about things in November when we're discussing getting draft picks out of players who may not be here next year. Knile and Chase are classic examples. Even if you get a 7th for them it's better than letting them go for free. Again, you can get comp picks for these guys, but only if we decide not to bring in any new free agents in.

GloryDayz 11-03-2015 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11862758)
The Chiefs will have $40 million in cap space, without restructuring anyone, in 2016. They'll have plenty of room to sign whomever they want.

Knile Davis can hit the road, Hali will be worth half of 2015 ($3 million) IF he doesn't retire and DJ's not going anywhere and will play for less next year as well.

It's pretty silly to worry about such things in early November.
Hunt prolly just signed himself to a $39M contract... LMAO

DaneMcCloud 11-03-2015 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11862806)
I don't think it's silly to worry about things in November when we're discussing getting draft picks out of players who may not be here next year. Knile and Chase are classic examples. Even if you get a 7th for them it's better than letting them go for free. Again, you can get comp picks for these guys, but only if we decide not to bring in any new free agents in.
Uh, trade deadline has expired and the Chiefs never considered trading any of their players.

Good grief.

TEX 11-03-2015 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11862988)
Uh, trade deadline has expired and the Chiefs never considered trading any of their players.

Good grief.
No shit. Damn broken record, of mostly stupid shit, all the damn time...

chiefzilla1501 11-03-2015 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11862988)
Uh, trade deadline has expired and the Chiefs never considered trading any of their players.

Good grief.
And you know this because....?

And Schefter already said the Chiefs have been shopping Chase Daniel.

And even if you were right, it still begs the question of why we weren't considering shopping our players around.

RunKC 11-03-2015 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11862988)
Uh, trade deadline has expired and the Chiefs never considered trading any of their players.

Good grief.
It pisses me off that we are the most conservative team in the league. Christ we never make a splash on anything. When was the last time we trade up in the draft?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-03-2015 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11863035)
It pisses me off that we are the most conservative team in the league. Christ we never make a splash on anything. When was the last time we trade up in the draft?
Because all the good teams (Patriots, Seattle) trade down for extra picks and all the buffoons trade up (Redskins, Titans, etc.)

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-03-2015 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11862498)
I live here. Im fully aware of the Charger's problems. But our offense isn't exactly prolific and they have the #1 passing offense in the NFL...and our D still gives up big plays in the passing game.
#1 passing offense because they've played like 5 teams in the bottom third of pass defenses. Which unfortunately, our pass defense has proven it can perform at from time to time.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-03-2015 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11862722)
Jets traded a 2nd round pick and 3 JAG's to move up from 17 to 5. We can trade up without selling the farm, especially if there are 3 QB's and one is still there after the top 5
Our biggest problems are at Linebacker and OL. We don't need to tank. And receivers can be found all over the first round if that's where we end up going.

Baby Lee 11-03-2015 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11862328)
The Bears aren't very good, but Cutler isn't shitty. Another misinformed idea around here.

And yes, we should have not lost that game.
Cutler isn't shitty, he's streaky. He's a slightly better Rex Grossman, and a slightly shittier Andrew Luck.

In the game against us, even as bad as Alex performed, outside the final drive he performed worse.

RunKC 11-03-2015 11:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 11863078)
Because all the good teams (Patriots, Seattle) trade down for extra picks and all the buffoons trade up (Redskins, Titans, etc.)
Not really.

Falcons traded up for Julio Jones
Vikings traded up for Teddy Bridgewater
Seahawks traded a first for Jimmy Graham
Patriots traded up for Chandler Jones
Patriots traded up for Dont'a Hightower
Falcons traded up for Desmond Trufant
Saints traded up for Brandin Cooks

I like how John Dorsey started taking impact players like Peters and Morse and traded up for Conley, as well as trading for Grubbs.

It was a breath of fresh air, but we need to trade up for a QB. It's time.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 11-03-2015 11:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 11863090)
Not really.

Falcons traded up for Julio Jones
Vikings traded up for Teddy Bridgewater
Seahawks traded a first for Jimmy Graham
Patriots traded up for Chandler Jones
Patriots traded up for Dont'a Hightower
Falcons traded up for Desmond Trufant
Saints traded up for Brandin Cooks

I like how John Dorsey started taking impact players like Peters and Morse and traded up for Conley, as well as trading for Grubbs.

It was a breath of fresh air, but we need to trade up for a QB. It's time.
There are more failures with trading up than there are with trading down for extra picks. Trading up for Conley wasn't a 'splash' move like you were mentioning moving up in the first round. We are committed to Smith for 2 more seasons with his contract, get that into your head. He's a capable game manager, our money and picks are better spent at this point going for talent on defense.

Tombstone RJ 11-03-2015 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 11854086)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash">#Chiefs</a> chairman Clark Hunt says he will stick with Andy Reid and John Dorsey for 2016, even if they end up with a top 5, top 10 pick.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/660807458454114304">November 1, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Fantastic, add A. Smith to this and you got a trifecta of the awesome. Perhaps KC will draft an offensive tackle with a top 5 pick because, well, they need one.

RealSNR 11-04-2015 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 11862346)
No, I'm good.



Well, for ****s sake...forgive me for using the wrong term. I really dont GAF what it's called, I dont want the QB that plays for a college school that is the 'best athlete' on the field that typically bails out his team with a scramble, pull the ball down and run for the TD, cause that shit doesnt work in the NFL. I would prefer a QB who plays in a system and in a way that works in the NFL...those types of QB's that have to use their teammates rather than their other worldly speed to win games have more success in the league called the NFL.
You may as well claim that Andrew Luck came from a spread offense. Because he was the best athlete on his offense and is a very good scrambler.

You're an idiot.

Also, that means you want Alex to hit the road, correct? Because his best plays in a Chiefs uniform have been when he uses his legs. That's the most valuable part about him as a QB.

KCTitus 11-04-2015 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11863514)
You may as well claim that Andrew Luck came from a spread offense. Because he was the best athlete on his offense and is a very good scrambler.

You're an idiot.

Also, that means you want Alex to hit the road, correct? Because his best plays in a Chiefs uniform have been when he uses his legs. That's the most valuable part about him as a QB.
I may be an idiot, but I dont recall ever writing anything about Luck. I'll thank you for not putting words in my mouth...K?

I hate the fact that Alex is constantly pulling the ball and either taking a sack or running...damn near 100 yards last week. Great...and this league is set up for a QB to pass and either have a completion or a hanky. So yeah, he can hit the bricks as far as I'm concerned. I'd prefer a pocket passer that can read a defense and get rid of the ball.

TEX 11-04-2015 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 11863514)
You may as well claim that Andrew Luck came from a spread offense. Because he was the best athlete on his offense and is a very good scrambler.

You're an idiot.

Also, that means you want Alex to hit the road, correct? Because his best plays in a Chiefs uniform have been when he uses his legs. That's the most valuable part about him as a QB.
You need to use your head more before you call people idiots. If you don't understand his point, then you're not only the RealSNR, you're also the RealIDIOT. Just saying...;)

RealSNR 11-04-2015 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TEX (Post 11863560)
You need to use your head more before you call people idiots. If you don't understand his point, then you're not only the RealSNR, you're also the RealIDIOT. Just saying...;)

He misspoke regarding spread offense QBs. Fine. But then he compounded that by claiming Bridgewater doesn't fit his mold of a true pocket passer even though he NEVER ran a designed option in college.

What point of his did I miss, exactly?

Mr. Laz 11-04-2015 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 11863086)
Our biggest problems are at Linebacker and OL. We don't need to tank. And receivers can be found all over the first round if that's where we end up going.
I'm not sure that Coaching isn't our biggest problem.

I want impact in the 1st round, not a certain position.


LB and OL should be the 2nd and 3rd round

chiefzilla1501 11-04-2015 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11864283)
I'm not sure that Coaching isn't our biggest problem.

I want impact in the 1st round, not a certain position.


LB and OL should be the 2nd and 3rd round
The Chiefs aren't going anywhere with Alex Smith. I'm usually for BPA. But not in an instance like this where we've completely ignored the QB position for years. But if the Chiefs have no choice but to seek his replacement. If the Chiefs think any of the QBs in this draft are better than Murray or Bray, it's a chance definitely worth taking.

I would draft a high round QB every single year until you get your guy. There is zero excuse not to have a true competitive option to ALex Smith by next year.


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