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kccrow 04-14-2017 09:23 AM

There's this little analysis thing with Explosion # and Productivity Ratio that tends to be a "predictor" of success for DE/LB. Basham falls well short of the explosion # threshold of 70 at 56.4. He meets the productivity threshold of 1.0 at 1.31, but at a lower level of competition. Given that, it is unlikely he becomes a good player in the NFL. I'm not going to say he won't, but it's something to think about.

I had started calculating these for all the Edge players in the draft but got lazy and only finished the productivity ratios. I'll try and finish the rest today and post it for you.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-14-2017 09:27 AM

**** "Johnny Fire" in his dick hole with a rusty nail.

BossChief 04-14-2017 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12823971)
Eww at Douglas in round 2

That may be a little early, but the kid has the best ball skills in this draft, has great size for the position and would flourish in this system across from Peters.

Opposing QBs would be concerned about throwing it anywhere.

You should watch some videos of him from last year. He totally reminds me of Marcus Peters so much it's scary the way he comes off his coverage while watching the QB to undercut routes of other WRs to intercept passes and return them.

Hand that kid to Thomas/Harris and he would blossom quickly into a stud.

staylor26 04-14-2017 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12824043)
That may be a little early, but the kid has the best ball skills in this draft, has great size for the position and would flourish in this system across from Peters.

Opposing QBs would be concerned about throwing it anywhere.

You should watch some videos of him from last year. He totally reminds me of Marcus Peters so much it's scary the way he comes off his coverage while watching the QB to undercut routes of other WRs to intercept passes and return them.

Hand that kid to Thomas/Harris and he would blossom quickly into a stud.

Don't get me wrong, I'd be fine with him in the 3rd, but in the 2nd? No thanks.

DJ's left nut 04-14-2017 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 12824019)
**** "Johnny Fire" in his dick hole with a rusty nail.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12824006)
Kansas City has a window in the West that is going to start closing if they pass on primary needs; Alex Smith is still competent enough at the moment at QB, and more than enough to justify not taking a QB in the first frame. Talk to me again in 2018.


Why? So you can type the exact same paragraph only this time say that their window is that much closer to closing?

If Smith is as competent and credible as all these draft ****os keep saying, then the Chiefs can get their replacement this year and deal Smith next year for a 3rd or 4th with a ready replacement on hand.

Because that's what they keep ignoring - not taking a QB this year doesn't mean Alex Smith in '17 - it means Alex Smith in '17 AND '18. No. 100000000 times no.

I'm done with that movie. They are going to take a quarterback in the 1st because I simply refuse to believe otherwise. Every argument that people are making against taking one this year exists again next year and with ever GREATER urgency.

Take the goddamn quarterback.

DJ's left nut 04-14-2017 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12824138)
Don't get me wrong, I'd be fine with him in the 3rd, but in the 2nd? No thanks.

Bossreach needs to double down on his pick of Douglas in the mock, even though there were obviously better options available at the time...

The Franchise 04-14-2017 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12823969)
Matt Miller's updated 2-round mock...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ce=twitter.com

Give me Adams over Douglas.

BossChief 04-14-2017 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12824142)
Bossreach needs to double down on his pick of Douglas in the mock, even though there were obviously better options available at the time...

We won't see eye to eye on this pick anytime soon.

Getting a CB with great size and elite ball skills with a comp 3rd is a steal though.

Quesadilla Joe 04-14-2017 01:24 PM

Chad Reuter's most recent 6-round mock...

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27 Dalvin Cook - RB

The Chiefs might believe Cook is worth a late-first-round pick because of his quickness and vision, even with the off-field issues, shoulder injuries, and fumbling he displayed at FSU.

59. Chiefs: Montravius Adams, DT, Auburn
91. Chiefs: Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh
104. Chiefs: Taywan Taylor, WR, Western Kentucky
132. Chiefs: Kendell Beckwith, ILB, LSU
170. Chiefs: Ezra Robinson, CB, Tennessee St.
180. Chiefs: Jeremiah Ledbetter, DE, Arkansas
216. Chiefs: Alex Kozan, G, Auburn

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...-trubisky-no-1

staylor26 04-14-2017 01:36 PM

That is the worst Chiefs mock I've seen yet

The Franchise 04-14-2017 01:40 PM

****ing garbage.

BossChief 04-14-2017 03:09 PM

Horrible draft

Titty Meat 04-14-2017 11:36 PM

Id take Mixon in the 2nd round **** the bad pr

Quesadilla Joe 04-15-2017 07:19 AM

Thought this was pretty interesting, the most accurate mockers over the past 5 years...

http://www.thehuddlereport.com/scoring/mockdrafts.shtml

http://i68.tinypic.com/2mwtjx3.png

Bowser 04-15-2017 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12482857)
www.walterfootball.com

I'll try and update this periodically throughout the season.

17. Charles Harris, DE/OLB, Missouri

The Chiefs currently aren't getting any pressure on the quarterback. That's obviously because Justin Houston is out, but Dee Ford, starting in his place, has done nothing. Tamba Hali doesn't have much longer remaining as a pro, so the Chiefs will need to find a suitable replacement for him.


49. Anthony Walker, ILB, Northwestern

The Chiefs could spend a second-day selection on an inside linebacker, given that Derrick Johnson is nearing retirement.

http://community.us.playstation.com/...v=mpbl-1&px=-1

Coochie liquor 04-15-2017 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12823969)
Matt Miller's updated 2-round mock...

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...ce=twitter.com

I like Douglas, and hope we draft him. But not in the second, I was thinking 4th if he's there. Maybe the 3rd wouldn't be so bad. Either way I'd like to see him opposite Peters.

BossChief 04-15-2017 09:41 AM

We always talk about getting a QB on a cheap rookie deal and the cost savings, but some here are ignoring the same things with other positions with escalating salaries.

Good corners get 15m per
Pass rushers get 15-20m per
QBs get 17-25m

This is the draft to get those positions locked up on cheap rookie deals and advantageously this draft is loaded in 2/3 of those spots.

Especially with big money extensions needing to be put in place with multiple players in the next 3 seasons.

Dave Lane 04-15-2017 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12820974)
Walterfootball.com has their Reader Mock Draft every year and it's going on right now. The Texans are on the clock and it's looking like Mahomes is going to be voted as their pick. Considering the Seahawks are the next team on the clock....it's looking like our choice will come down to Kizer or Watson for the QB position. If you want to go vote when we're on the clock.....feel free to. I believe he opens it up for 24 hours.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2017reader_1.php

Or go pump up the votes for Watson. He's about 20 behind Mahomes right now.

Idiots there... Let's get a ILB in the first that can sit behind DJ for a couple years. Wtf Is that stupidity?

Quesadilla Joe 04-17-2017 09:46 AM

Have no clue who RJ White is but he did a 3-round mock with trades... He has KC passing up on a lot of really good players in the second round...
Quote:

27. Kansas City Chiefs

Top needs: CB, ILB, G, WR

Zach Cunningham, ILB, Vanderbilt: The Chiefs could be a team that trades out of the first round for someone looking to move up from the early second, but Cunningham is too good to pass up at this spot. NFLDraftScout.com senior analyst Rob Rang compared the Vandy linebacker to Derrick Johnson, so it's only fitting that he would head to Kansas City to become Johnson's heir apparent. He's a tackling machine who would be able to start from Day 1 on a team with Super Bowl hopes.


50. Kansas City Chiefs (from Tampa Bay): Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson

The Chiefs have a lot of picks from which to deal, so they send the No. 104 pick to move up nine spots for Tankersley, one of several second-tier corners in this draft with starting potential.

85. Kansas City Chiefs (from Detroit): Carl Lawson, OLB, Auburn

The Chiefs moved up in the second round, but they have plenty of picks to do so again, sending Nos. 170 and 218 to jump five spots for Lawson, a talented pass rusher who has dealt with injury issues.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/20...-quarterbacks/

DJ's left nut 04-17-2017 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 12825558)
Idiots there... Let's get a ILB in the first that can sit behind DJ for a couple years. Wtf Is that stupidity?

If you put the over/under on number of games Derrick Johnson starts for the Chiefs again at 5, I'd take the under.

DJ's time is effectively over.

Quesadilla Joe 04-18-2017 11:35 AM

Chris Collinsworth's mock...

Quote:

27. Kansas City Chiefs

Gareon Conley, CB, Ohio State

Gareon Conley, the “other cornerback” from Ohio State, is too good to pass up at No. 27. The Chiefs will also need to look for a replacement for Derrick Johnson at linebacker, but with Marcus Peters on one side, Conley on the other, and safety Eric Berry in middle, this secondary starts to look like it’s on a level with Denver’s unit. Conley isn’t flashy, but does such a great job getting his head around and finding the ball — he may end up with a lot of interceptions. He isn’t quite as quick-twitch as some of the others, but he is a steal here.

PFF Draft Pass Stat: Allowed a passer rating of only 13.6 on passes into his coverage in 2016, the best mark in the nation.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/dra...m_campaign=nfl

MahiMike 04-18-2017 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 12821281)
I'd actually be pretty happy with Watson. It was pretty interesting to hear Gruden go through Watson's interceptions with him on Gruden's football camp. Showed him, and told him, how he could have easily cleaned up 6 or 7 of them. It was really interesting. If you don't want to watch it, communication between Watson and his O-line and Watson and his receivers was the key to most of the interceptions.

In fact, Gruden said once Watson and his professional teammates could communicate on the same page (getting the play and the audible play called and remembering it), he has all the tools to make be successful. BTW, Watson majored in communication in college. Completed his degree in 3 years.

Watson is my #1 guy right now.

30 picks in last 2 years. YIKES!

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-18-2017 07:30 PM

Mother**** Collinsdouche.

Quesadilla Joe 04-18-2017 11:20 PM

Lance Zierlein's most recent mock

Quote:

27

Patrick Mahomes - QB, Texas Tech

Many observers agree Mahomes is a perfect fit for Andy Reid and as Alex Smith's future replacement.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...030-sf71381030

Titty Meat 04-19-2017 08:14 AM

Unless it's Foster I don't want a ILB in the first round. You can get a lot of good ones in the middle rounds in this draft.

O.city 04-19-2017 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12830498)
Unless it's Foster I don't want a ILB in the first round. You can get a lot of good ones in the middle rounds in this draft.

It's tough to get a 3 down lber later though

Quesadilla Joe 04-19-2017 10:09 AM

Kiper's latest 3-round mock...

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Spoiler!


Kansas City Chiefs

Round 1 (27): Zach Cunningham, ILB, Vanderbilt

Round 2 (59): Chris Godwin, WR, Penn State

Round 3 (91): Alvin Kamara, RB, Tennessee

Round 3 (104): DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame

The Chiefs are another team that could take a quarterback in Rounds 1 or 2, but I would put other needs higher. Derrick Johnson can't man the middle of the Kansas City defense forever, and he's recovering from an Achilles injury suffered in December. Cunningham, a tackling machine with sideline-to-sideline range, could be his successor. I also think the Chiefs need help at receiver and running back. Godwin flashed No. 1 receiver ability at times for the Nittany Lions, and his 4.42 40 at his size showed his athleticism. Kamara was a part-time back in college and probably won't be a three-down back in the NFL, but he has some explosion. I thought Kizer, my No. 6-ranked quarterback, should have stayed in school for another year. He isn't ready to play, and he'll have to sit behind a veteran and develop. Alex Smith's contract is up in 2018, which gives Kizer two years to absorb Andy Reid's offense.
https://www.reddit.com/r/NFL_Draft/c...atest_3_round/

raybec 4 04-19-2017 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12830641)

I highly doubt Kamara or Kizer last until the 3rd

Quesadilla Joe 04-19-2017 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12830651)
I highly doubt Kamara or Kizer last until the 3rd

Yeah, Kiper said that this was what he would do, not what he thinks other teams are going to do. I probably should've mentioned that when I posted it.

Chief Northman 04-19-2017 10:32 AM

No way it would happen, but what a haul that would be. Total "needs" draft by Kiper here.

Titty Meat 04-19-2017 12:13 PM

Kiper is an idiot

bigjosh 04-20-2017 06:41 PM

Walter Footballs latest and greatest. If we take a guard at 27 I give up.

Kansas City Chiefs: Forrest Lamp, G/C, Western Kentucky

It's been a while since the Chiefs have spent a first-round pick on an offensive lineman. Andy Reid is a big fan of building a team through the trenches, so I don't think he'd be able to pass on the top guard in this class if Forrest Lamp dropped into his lap at No. 27 overall. Reid would love to obtain someone like Lamp, who would provide an upgrade over the mediocre Zach Fulton.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-20-2017 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 12832970)
Walter Footballs latest and greatest. If we take a guard at 27 I give up.

Kansas City Chiefs: Forrest Lamp, G/C, Western Kentucky

It's been a while since the Chiefs have spent a first-round pick on an offensive lineman. Andy Reid is a big fan of building a team through the trenches, so I don't think he'd be able to pass on the top guard in this class if Forrest Lamp dropped into his lap at No. 27 overall. Reid would love to obtain someone like Lamp, who would provide an upgrade over the mediocre Zach Fulton.

Surely you've learned by now that the best way to fix the Chiefs offense's weakest link is to keep buying that pig a new dress and lipstick every season!
It'll work this time!

Urc Burry 04-21-2017 04:29 PM

Reuters-
Kansas City Chiefs

Round 1 (27) Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson
Round 2 (59) Zach Cunningham, LB, Vanderbilt
Round 3 (91) Sidney Jones, CB, Washington
Round 3 (104) Marlon Mack, RB, South Florida
Round 4 (132) Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State
Round 5 (170) DeAngelo Yancey, WR, Purdue
Round 5 (180) Jeremiah Ledbetter, DE, Arkansas
Round 6 (216) Montae Nicholson, S, Michigan State
Round 6 (218) Jalen Myrick, CB, Minnesota
Round 7 (245) Darrell Daniels, TE, Washington
:hail:

DJ's left nut 04-21-2017 08:26 PM

Santos signed a guaranteed tender. They ain't drafting a fourth round kicker

RealSNR 04-21-2017 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigjosh006 (Post 12832970)
Walter Footballs latest and greatest. If we take a guard at 27 I give up.

Kansas City Chiefs: Forrest Lamp, G/C, Western Kentucky

It's been a while since the Chiefs have spent a first-round pick on an offensive lineman. Andy Reid is a big fan of building a team through the trenches, so I don't think he'd be able to pass on the top guard in this class if Forrest Lamp dropped into his lap at No. 27 overall. Reid would love to obtain someone like Lamp, who would provide an upgrade over the mediocre Zach Fulton.

reerun still doesn't do his ****ing research. It's as simple as spending 3 ****ing minutes reading about the team to know that Zach Fulton isn't the starter.

bigjosh 04-21-2017 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 12834838)
reerun still doesn't do his ****ing research. It's as simple as spending 3 ****ing minutes reading about the team to know that Zach Fulton isn't the starter.

And also that andy reid isn't the personnel guy...

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HemiEd 04-22-2017 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12834803)
Santos signed a guaranteed tender. They ain't drafting a fourth round kicker

That had me scratching my head as well. Do these guys get paid to do this?

Chief Roundup 04-22-2017 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12834803)
Santos signed a guaranteed tender. They ain't drafting a fourth round kicker

True and all but I do like those first 4 picks.

kccrow 04-22-2017 12:11 PM

Leave it to Walter to revert to mocking oline every single year to kc

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The Franchise 04-24-2017 09:11 AM

He just released his 7 round mock draft but he's mocked us Forrest Lamp in the 1st.....so I'm not going to bother posting this garbage.

Titty Meat 04-24-2017 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12836792)
He just released his 7 round mock draft but he's mocked us Forrest Lamp in the 1st.....so I'm not going to bother posting this garbage.

What would you do if they really draft Lamp? Remember when Reid drafted a 27 year old guard in the first round when he coached the Eagles ROFL

staylor26 04-24-2017 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12836825)
What would you do if they really draft Lamp? Remember when Reid drafted a 27 year old guard in the first round when he coached the Eagles ROFL

Yea Danny Watkins from Baylor. Thank god Reid isn't in charge.

The Franchise 04-24-2017 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12836825)
What would you do if they really draft Lamp? Remember when Reid drafted a 27 year old guard in the first round when he coached the Eagles ROFL

It'd be hard to watch another game next year.....and that's the honest truth.

DJ's left nut 04-24-2017 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12835103)
Leave it to Walter to revert to mocking oline every single year to kc

And he has the same stupid rationale every season.

I swear to Christ that he's trolling Chiefs fans. There's no other explanation.

The Franchise 04-24-2017 09:46 AM

I'd be pissed to watch Mahomes fall all the way to #25 and us not trade up to get him.

Quesadilla Joe 04-24-2017 11:12 AM

Charlie Casserly's most recent mock...

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PICK

27

Jarrad Davis - LB

School: Florida. Chiefs fill a need with an instinctive and fast player. I could also see QB Patrick Mahomes here.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...788-sf72801788

raybec 4 04-24-2017 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12836839)
I'd be pissed to watch Mahomes fall all the way to #25 and us not trade up to get him.

You still on the Brady's brain/ Cam's body train?

The Franchise 04-24-2017 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12837053)
You still on the Brady's brain/ Cam's body train?

I would have no problem taking him at 27 if Mahomes is gone and Reid thinks that he can work with him.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-24-2017 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12837076)
I would have no problem taking him at 27 if Mahomes is gone and Reid thinks that he can work with him.

If any of the top 4 QB'S remain, KC needs to pull the trigger. **** this Peter-eater/Kyak-bullshit.

Quesadilla Joe 04-25-2017 06:40 AM

Peter King’s mock...

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27. KANSAS CITY
Pat Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech
Not what Andy Reid planned, but the talent is too good to pass up. Alex Smith heir.
https://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/24/...t-round-trades

Quesadilla Joe 04-25-2017 08:30 AM

Peter Schrager's 7-round mock...

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Chiefs: Tre’Davious White, CB, LSU

White comes out of LSU, which could be called “DBU” these days with all the defensive backs it’s churning out. A supremely gifted athlete who clocked a 4.47 40-yard-dash at the Combine, he’s also a very solid tackler. The Chiefs are likely looking for an inside linebacker or another cornerback. White fits.

Chiefs: Nathan Peterman, QB, Pittsburgh
Chiefs: Anthony Walker, LB, Northwestern
Chiefs (compensatory pick): Corn Elder, CB, Miami
132. Chiefs: Isaac Asiata, G, Utah
170. Chiefs: George Kittle, TE, Iowa
180. Chiefs (compensatory pick): Ken Olugbode, LB, Colorado
216. Chiefs (compensatory pick): Fish Smithson, S, Kansas
218. Chiefs (compensatory pick): Hardy Nickerson, LB, Illinois
245. Chiefs: Woody Baron, DT, Virginia Tech
http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery...k-draft-042517

DJ's left nut 04-25-2017 08:39 AM

If they take Nate ****ing Peterman with their 2nd round pick, I'll lose my mind.

That kid is nothing.

Gravedigger 04-25-2017 09:05 AM

I don't know anything about Nate Peterman, but I'm assuming he's caucasian.

raybec 4 04-25-2017 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12838174)

That's the worst mock I've seen. 2 corners, 3 line backers, White is a reach in the first, and no RB at all in a very deep class.

The Franchise 04-25-2017 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12838174)

**** that hot garbage. Yet another mock where we watch Mahomes drop into the Texan's lap and they don't mock a trade up at all for us. Just so we can take ****ing Peterman in the 2nd.

staylor26 04-25-2017 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12838247)
**** that hot garbage. Yet another mock where we watch Mahomes drop into the Texan's lap and they don't mock a trade up at all for us. Just so we can take ****ing Peterman in the 2nd.

I'd rather severely overpay and trade that 2nd to get Mahomes then end up with White and Peterman.

The Franchise 04-25-2017 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12838255)
I'd rather severely overpay and trade that 2nd to get Mahomes then end up with White and Peterman.

Even if you think that we won't trade up......****ing stay at 27 and draft Kizer.

staylor26 04-25-2017 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12838260)
Even if you think that we won't trade up......****ing stay at 27 and draft Kizer.

Agreed

DJ's left nut 04-25-2017 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12838260)
Even if you think that we won't trade up......****ing stay at 27 and draft Kizer.

You really don't care about these interview reports, eh?

Seriously, the guy sounds like Jay Cutler. And like I said, this is the worst feedback we've gotten since Geno and we all know how that worked out.

I learned a fairly valuable lesson during Genogate - these interviews mean, in many ways, as much as the tape and the drills. At least for quarterbacks.

That's why I've slowly warmed to Webb. Christ alive, man - he KILLS the interviews and film study process. I've read several of them with him now and he can just dissect and disseminate things in real time as well as anyone I've ever seen. The arm's there and the athleticism, while goofy as ****, seems to be good enough.

Why should I take Kizer over someone like Webb when Webb has the same build, same arm, slighly less athleticism (though maybe not; just stranger looking) and at least outwardly understands/enjoys football a HELL of a lot more than Kizer does.

The Franchise 04-25-2017 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12838271)
You really don't care about these interview reports, eh?

Seriously, the guy sounds like Jay Cutler. And like I said, this is the worst feedback we've gotten since Geno and we all know how that worked out.

I learned a fairly valuable lesson during Genogate - these interviews mean, in many ways, as much as the tape and the drills. At least for quarterbacks.

That's why I've slowly warmed to Webb. Christ alive, man - he KILLS the interviews and film study process. I've read several of them with him now and he can just dissect and disseminate things in real time as well as anyone I've ever seen. The arm's there and the athleticism, while goofy as ****, seems to be good enough.

Why should I take Kizer over someone like Webb when Webb has the same build, same arm, slighly less athleticism (though maybe not; just stranger looking) and at least outwardly understands/enjoys football a HELL of a lot more than Kizer does.

I don't. Geno's reports were shit like the dude was on his cellphone during an interview or he would tune everyone out. I don't see that with Kizer. Kizer just comes off as being confident.....but he's not an asshole about it. I just think that he's green and he definitely needs to sit for a season. I think Reid would be perfect for him.

The Franchise 04-25-2017 09:32 AM

And as a side note.....I'd be fine if they took Webb at 27 as well. Mahomes is at the top of my list but I'd be ok with Kizer, Webb...or shit....even Watson.

DJ's left nut 04-25-2017 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12838276)
I don't. Geno's reports were shit like the dude was on his cellphone during an interview or he would tune everyone out. I don't see that with Kizer. Kizer just comes off as being confident.....but he's not an asshole about it. I just think that he's green and he definitely needs to sit for a season. I think Reid would be perfect for him.

Depends on the reports you read.

He's been smart enough not to hang on his cell phone, but many folks have come away thinking that he's disinterested in football. That's extremely alarming.

I'm fine with confident - shit, Webb has it dripping out of him. But my worry is a guy that feels like it's just going to come to him; the talent will win out. Nope, not at this level. You can have the talent but you're still going to have to be single-mindedly focused on the job for most of your playing career.

I've not seen a single thing to suggest that Kizer will approach that. At best you'll get that Big Ben sort of 'just be big and chuck it to pro-bowlers' kind of doofiness that seems to have paid off for him. That's probably not the approach to rely on.

O.city 04-25-2017 09:46 AM

He wore a golden helmet. Pest has a golden boner.

The Franchise 04-25-2017 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12838292)
Depends on the reports you read.

He's been smart enough not to hang on his cell phone, but many folks have come away thinking that he's disinterested in football. That's extremely alarming.

I'm fine with confident - shit, Webb has it dripping out of him. But my worry is a guy that feels like it's just going to come to him; the talent will win out. Nope, not at this level. You can have the talent but you're still going to have to be single-mindedly focused on the job for most of your playing career.

I've not seen a single thing to suggest that Kizer will approach that. At best you'll get that Big Ben sort of 'just be big and chuck it to pro-bowlers' kind of doofiness that seems to have paid off for him. That's probably not the approach to rely on.

I've probably still got some homer glasses on....but I think he'll turn out ok.

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2017 04:51 AM

Albert Breer's mock...

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27. Chiefs: Texas Tech QB Patrick Mahomes. I see this as the floor for Mahomes, who could go much earlier. That said, KC would be an ideal landing spot for him.
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/27/n...y-albert-breer

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2017 07:34 AM

Matt Miller's 7-round mock...

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27. Kansas City Chiefs

The Pick: Cornerback Marlon Humphrey, Alabama

Do not be surprised if Marlon Humphrey comes off the board much earlier tonight. There are multiple teams I've talked to that like the physical Alabama cornerback in the top 20 picks. I firmly believe the Kansas City Chiefs would like to select a quarterback here, but it's a better value at this stage to wait until Round 2.

Opposite Marcus Peters, the Chiefs need a starting cornerback. Humphrey is good at the line of scrimmage and has the speed to stay in-phase down the field (4.41 40-yard dash). He's raw as a coverage technician but is a great fit in the Kansas City scheme. The Chiefs also have needs at inside linebacker to consider, but with Jarrad Davis and Zach Cunningham gone, there's not a great value.

59 Kansas City Chiefs QB Nathan Peterman, Pitt
91 Kansas City Chiefs LB Blair Brown, Ohio
104 Kansas City Chiefs WR Noah Brown, Ohio State
132 Kansas City Chiefs DL D.J. Jones, Ole Miss
170 Kansas City Chiefs EDGE Fadol Brown, Ole Miss
180 Kansas City Chiefs OC Chase Roullier, Wyoming
216 Kansas City Chiefs S Damarius Travis, Minnesota
218 Kansas City Chiefs CB Brian Allen, Utah
245 Kansas City Chiefs WR Fred Ross, Mississippi State
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...nd-predictions

O.city 04-27-2017 07:35 AM

It's gonna be Peterman.

staylor26 04-27-2017 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12841451)
It's gonna be Peterman.

Shut your whore mouth

raybec 4 04-27-2017 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12841451)
It's gonna be Peterman.

**** you, don't you have someone to fondle while they're sedated?

staylor26 04-27-2017 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12841495)
**** you, don't you have someone to fondle while they're sedated?

LMAO

DJ's left nut 04-27-2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12841451)
It's gonna be Peterman.

I had a 3 o'clock appointment to get a chipped tooth fixed. I didn't show up until 4 because I forgot. I got everything taken care of and went home happy.

So that dentist and his 2 assistants spent an hour just waiting on my ass, fixed my tooth and took my whopping $72.00. After paying for his hygienists, materials and overhead, the guy probably got paid as much as a McDonalds worker.

I hope that happens to you. A lot. And I hope the party in question had a pot of coffee and chain smoked a pack of reds before he showed up.

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2017 08:56 AM

Bob McGinn's mock...

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27. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS: Corey Davis, WR, Western Michigan

The Chiefs need a RB and a QB but elect not to do it here. Instead, they get a power player to team with Jeremy Maclin.
http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports...ons/100929770/

staylor26 04-27-2017 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12841600)

One of the only non-QB picks that would give me wood. Second favorite player in the draft behind Foster.

raybec 4 04-27-2017 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12841600)

Who's Bob McGinn? Are you going to post Chucky Cheese's 7 round mock?

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2017 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 12841606)
Who's Bob McGinn? Are you going to post Chucky Cheese's 7 round mock?

He's the guy who leaks the Wonderlic scores every year. I don't know how good he is at mocking but he puts out some really good draft content every year.

Frosty 04-27-2017 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12841602)
One of the only non-QB picks that would give me wood. Second favorite player in the draft behind Foster.

Same here. If it isn't a QB, I'm hoping for Davis or one of the Huskies.

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2017 09:04 AM

Eric Galko's mock...

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12. TRADE — Kansas City Chiefs: Patrick Mahomes, QB, Texas Tech



This is the only trade I will outright predict. Former Chiefs assistant GM Chris Ballard was a supporter of Mahomes during his time in Kansas City, and GM John Dorsey and Andy Reid trust him. Their first, second and fourth this year and second next year should be enough for a Browns team that wants to move down.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/list...gba1a/slide/12

Quesadilla Joe 04-27-2017 09:07 AM

Prisco...

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27. Kansas City Chiefs

Deshaun Watson, QB, Clemson. At some point, they have to start looking for a quarterback to replace Alex Smith. This would make some sense.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/pr...franchise-qbs/

raybec 4 04-27-2017 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12841618)

At what point would they know that Ballard supported Pat Mahomes in KC? That's some strong speculation there.


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