Smith doesn't throw enough TD's to be exonerated for his Picks. Period!

Try less stupid and slower reading...you might actually understand what I said.

Meh, I can't go there. He rarely throws INT's. We can't start cherry picking. He rarely throws INT's. And even with that INT we were still in the game. We needed one 3 and out. Just one.

28TH RANKED OFFENSE ITS A DUMPSTER FIRE!!!!!!!

I think Peters was a notable missing piece to this defense he adds another dimension that creates the rest of the defense to play with swag. The defense lacked swag today.

It was nice to see Houston out there but he needs to get into football shape to do the things he is capable of doing but he will soon enough I believe in him getting back at 100% with few games under his belt.

This defense is still top notch just the offense has got to do something to put points on the score bored for the defense to defend.

We needed our defense to win the game for us. Again.

They didn't.

When is the offense going to win a game for us?

Offense is definitely an ugly thing to watch.

No argument there.

Yeah. We were still in the game....because the defense kept us there. If they were as bad as you said they were....we would have been down by more than 3 scores.

Chiefs seeing red after loss hurts chances to win tight AFC West race
 

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/chiefs-...220558032.html


Chiefs seeing red after loss hurts chances to win tight AFC West race

If the Kansas City Chiefs are going to emerge from the three-card monte that is the AFC West, they’re going to have to avoid two things: losing to teams below them and missing on chances to score points.

Both happened Sunday.

The Chiefs inexplicably blew a chance to push the Denver Broncos and Oakland Raiders, playing later in Week 11, with a game they should have won. But the Tampa Bay Buccaneers — imagine this — were the more poised and efficient team on Sunday in a 19-17 win over the Chiefs.

That’s saying a lot. The Bucs have been a wild affair this season, replete with turnovers, defensive breakdowns and The Roberto Aguayo Experience. But Aguyao, on a day when kickers lost their ability to kick league-wide, was a perfect 4-of-4, and the Chiefs couldn’t count on them beating themselves.

Alex Smith and the Kansas City Chiefs lost a tough game Sunday. (AP)
Alex Smith and the Kansas City Chiefs lost a tough game Sunday. (AP)
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This is a team that had won 10 straight at Arrowhead, but the Chiefs are just not a dynamic offensive team right now. In addition to bogging down in the red zone (2-for-4 on Sunday, after 0-for-6 the previous two games), they also gave away points when Alex Smith was picked in the end zone by Bucs safety Chris Conte with 12 minutes to go in the fourth quarter.

That was a back breaker, and Smith couldn’t get the ball back in time to make a charge for a late field goal. It might not have mattered. The Chiefs ran 52 plays Sunday, and 49 of them went for 17 yards or shorter. Jeremy Maclin’s absence made a difference, but even with him on the field the Chiefs can’t afford to not capitalize on drive and give teams such as the Buccaneers chances.

Despite some shaky moments from Jameis Winston, he often diced the Chiefs up. The Bucs converted 69 percent of their third-down attempts against the Chiefs, which — like their red-zone troubles on offense — is a disturbing trend that is going on three weeks now.

Now the Chiefs have four of their final six games against AFC West teams. The good news is that they can take care of business in games that matter more than this one. The bad news? They’ll have a very hard time doing so with efforts such as these.

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Eric Edholm is a writer for Shutdown Corner on Yahoo Sports. Have a tip? Email him at [email protected] or follow him on Twitter!


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Or one fg instead of an int

7-3 ...I am not complaining

I am not sure about that. You think the defense would have held the Bucs for 3+ minutes and gave us a 1 point win?

Here's a hint. The defense didn't have a single 3 and out all game.

Most likely the Bucs would have kicked a FG to win the game.

He rarely throws TD's too, unfortunately. 9 td's to 4 int's? Not getting it done through 10 games.

Thank you defense.

This offense has very little to do with those 7 wins

they didnt score another point, are you saying they weren't trying up one?

Whatever it takes. I really don't care. This isn't Madded nor fantasy football.

Uh yeah, they scored 7 more points. :facepalm:

This isn't an NFL level offense either.

It's probably a good thing this website wasn't active during the Marty era. I'm not so sure that a good amount of these members wouldn't think he was leading a dynasty.

It most certainly is or can be. I think crap playcalling in the red zone has been our biggest problem. Going sideways instead of forward too much.

And so did we. That missed fg still wins us the game.

Oh dude this would have been the Coronary Planet....

You can't sit here and tell us that 9 td's and 4 int's and 2000 yards through 10 games isn't poor or is helping the offense.

Tell that to Russell Wilson who only threw 26 TD's all season to win the SB in 2013 then went to the SB in 2014 throwing only 20.

If you want to cherry pick stats and ignore rushing TD's which also represent the work of the offense (QB included) then you are a lunatic.

Bullshit. If you think this defense was going to stop the Bucs from scoring a FG with 3 mins left you're ****ing crazy. The only reason they didn't score again at the end was because they were running the clock. You're on ****ing crack if you think we would have won 13-12 and they had 3 mins+ to score a FG.

What ****ing defense did you think was going to magically show up for the last 3 minutes? What did you see in 57 minutes of play that would even give you a hunch that we would have held them?

Go read what I did say....

Technically 8.5 games, and yes he's off his mark from previous years but at least we sit at 7-3 with room to improve and his #1 receiver (hopefully) coming back healthy

There were people her who wanted to keep Herm when peterson got fired there is a huge defensive bias for most fans

Most fans just want our offense to not turn the ball over and let our defense do there thing that's good enough for them its sickening.

Pete you're not wrong. Our secondary was overmatched but that doesn't excuse the missed tackled and lack of pressure on the QB. We kept ourselves out of the end zone on the first drive with that stupid ****ing sweep to Kelce. We had the bucs defense on their heels and then gave them a shot of confidence with that stupid shit. This offense is struggling in the red zone and Andy Reid is wasting practice time on stupid ****ing trick plays. Three straight handoffs to Ware and I bet that opening drive ends in a TD.

You seem to think that the offense would have scored again if the defense would have just held them to a 3 and out. Like that's a real certainty. :rolleyes:

I think our offense had a better chance of scoring a FG with 3 mins left than our defense had of holding the Bucs scoreless for 3 mins.....

No way in hell any one who has been watching this year seen the abortion of our 2 min offense.

BASED OFF WHAT WE ARE RANKED 28th......

Based off of how we were moving the ball very well all game...sorry if the actual game gets in your way

except we weren't the bucs offense pretty much outclassed ours and they looked like ass today.

Not particulalry....bad play call, dropped pass and INT....that's 11 points, 7 at worst

That awful throw that Conte picked off was the game deciding play.

Wentz looks better as a rookie than Smith does as a vet.

Smith needs more time.

And more weapons.

and the excuses start Bad play call drop passes the bucs converted on 11-16 3rd downs that's unreal and before you blame our defense that's kinda of what the bucs are know for.

http://www.buccaneers.com/news/artic...d-369a9df4e38d

Smith had all day to pass today.

Wentz is not even the only rookie this season that looks better then Smith as a vet.

More time to develop.

Yep. Could see it happening right when he threw it...:shake:

Smith needs a better offensive line. :D

Yes he does. Even though this is year 4 with OL and play maker upgrades added....

kinda the point of the thread, glad to see you figure it out

Actually I think we would have won 20-19.

except holding the bucs to just 19 with those 3rd downs is commendable IMO our offense had plenty of chances to win the game for us and they tried to put it on the D's back like they always do.

You and every other homer need to understand this offense is ranked 28th for the 2nd year running and you wont win shit with your offense playing this bad and no sign that the ship is turning around.

The only way we win a one point game is if we left them no time to score. Nothing our defense did that entire game showed they would hold the Bucs from scoring.

the Bucs hurt themselves as much as we stopped them. The fumble. The holding penalty. Nelson made a play to break up what was otherwise a TD and he barely did that. But he did do it.

Of course we put games on the backs of our D. That's our strongest part of our team.

I'll tel you this, Mr. Poopy-Pants, Alex Smith and this shit offense have been in, scored more points and won more playoff games than any of the high-flying, Vermeil teams. That's just the fact.

They have shown over this season that if you give them a lead towards the end they are going to protect it more often than not.

Life or death I would pick them over the offense 100 times out of 100

Woulda coulda shoulda. **** that noise. Put the muther****ing football in the mother****ing endzone. Score more than 19 points. Seriously. 19 points. **** you if you blame the defense.

Or the defenses inability to stop them with 4 time outs (2 minute warning included) ?

Not this game....

well **** you too....

We were losing at that point. How did that cost us the game?

Same. I think that would have been the final score.

If they stop them with a 3 and out, we get the ball back with well over 2 min to play and the 2 min warning. Most likely with the ball around our 30 and needing only a FG.

That's how.

LMAO you are assuming the offense is going to score.

ROFLROFLROFLROFL

And it could have been had we got a 3 and out at the end.

The Bucs ran over 20+ plays more than the Chiefs did. That says as much about the defense as it does our offense.

Did you actually watch the game? What did you see that would make you think we wouldn't have gotten a FG? It's almost like you didn't watch the game.

And santos was hurt.

So you are REALLY assuming the offense scored a td.

ROFLROFLROFL

So now you are stipulating we would have had to have a TD? Keep moving the goal posts, no pun intended. You just said we could have kicked a FG instead of the INT? Make up your mind, was the FG kicker hurt or not? Or is he only hurt in my scenario but fine in yours? Which is it? You're all over the place.

Santos being hurt, drives where we didn't score earlier in the game.

It's almost like you've never watched our offense

Who was gonna kick it? Santos had an ankle injury.

They bypassed a 54 yard fg earlier.

So then we couldn't have kicked a FG instead of the INT like you claimed?

Yeah, go argue with yourself some more cause you are making 0 sense.

The same guy who was going to kick the FG you keep crying we could have won the game with on the INT!!

They passed on the 54 because of the wind. Just like TB did going to same way one drive later.

WOW!

When did Santos get hurt? On the kick off after our last td is when they talked about it.

So yes he could have been healthy st one point in the game and injured at another point

And you're assuming he wasn't going to be able to kick. Did they say he was out? If they did then I will say my bad. If they didn't then STFU.

once again he got hurt after the int.

No but kicking a fg with an injured kicker in conditions where they bypassed a 54 yarder with that same kicker healthy says the odds are against them getting one in the last two minutes.


Think about it

Did they say he couldn't kick? Quit making all these assumptions about it was going to have to be a 54 yard kick. For the 2nd time, they bypassed the 54 yard kick because of the wind in the 3rd Q. Which is why TB didn't try the same kick in the 4th Q.

JFC

Hidden touchdowns.

.

You think Alex Smith called that play?

He scored two TDs today.

You don't think there are other reads other than the check down in that play?