Being grilled. LMAO

He said it like it was, didn't sugar coat it ...

It's hard to have 2 players on your team that are the highest or close to the highest paid players at their position and said Chicago is enjoying Tibusky's rookie contract and the Rams are too.

Some of the younger fans can't and won't understand how you can't mortgage a team for the next 7 years and still bring back other players on your team. Mack made it clear he wasn't going to play so the team made a move.

I am fine with it, Liked him, wanted him here but it's a business and to pay him that kind of money would have made us a shit defense for the next 7 years overall, he would have done great 10-15 sacks a year but that won't stop the quick passes for large gains and damn sure won't improve the secondary and with him their would be no money to do it.

Sorry but Mack is an elite level pass-rusher. Ken Norton being a shitty DC, and having a shitty secondary, doesn't mean anything to the loss they just took. It's a poor attempt to try and reason with the stupid move your dumb coach just made.

He's a guy that you have to find a way to pay. The Raiders are ****ing dumbasses for not giving him what he wanted. You keep elite caliber players that are just entering their prime....no matter what.

Now they’ll spend 4 picks in round one in hopes of finding 1 Khalil Mack lol. It’s a dumb move.

I’m still happy KC kept Houston and Berry

Seems like they realize this team isn't going to get over the hump, and are trying to accumulate picks for Gruden to make the team over in his own image.

That dog dont hunt. If the situation was reversed and the Raiders gave up 2 future 1st round picks and agreed to pay $95 million dollars money for a pass rusher without having a proven offense......they would be mocked as "the same old Al Davis Raiders"......

https://youtu.be/r9jftEXJww8

https://youtu.be/jJ-8rYMEzeU

https://youtu.be/kA5SRVtFdj4

Remember when King was supposedly a bad decision by Gruden?

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...arquette-king/

:spock:

People were bitching about him cutting a punter?

Also: THIS is what you have to hang your hat on as a refutation if Grudens criticism? Jesus.

Have to pick the low hanging fruit when that’s all that’s there.

Via Nicki Jhabvala of the Athletic, King had been checked out by trainers after the final punt, and he was limping in the locker room after the game.

ROFL

Marquette trying to blame his performance on the "injury"

Nah, plenty of other criticism that is still valid, but I found it humorous then that King was one of the talking points, and it is even funnier now.

But for 1/4 the price ;)

[Eric Williams] Jon Gruden said he wanted to take Derwin James in the first round, but unfortunately they took a safety in the first round in 2016 (Karl Joseph) and one in the second round (Obi Melifonwu) in 2017. The Raiders selected LT Kolton Miller two picks before James in this year’s draft.

Lol good to know this guy will be picking for need going forward.

The funny thing is, the Raiders cut Obi and still need a S.

How often is a player drafted with his skills? Not often:

https://i.imgur.com/pQgXWi4.jpg

JFC, Chuckie sounds like a fragile bitch ROFL

Regarding the Raiders upcoming game in London:

https://sports.yahoo.com/why-jon-gru...180939166.html

Maybe Chucky should call Rain Man and check on boat rides?

Gruden's gotta get some excuses lined up for the next time Kolton Miller gets strafed and Carr launches a floater directly to James in response.

This ****ing guy, man. Everything he does is to cover for the greatness of Jon Gruden. There's not a player or executive in that entire organization he won't throw under the bus.

Sheesh, Chucky, just drink the whole way. Problem solved. Damn...

The first thing I thought when I heard the James thing was how the **** could you say that when you drafted somebody else? All everybody wanted to talk about was the obvious slap in the face to McKenzie, but it’s just as ****ed up from Miller’s perspective.

And what ****ing moron basically says the team is in rebuilding mode and then turns around and admits he didn’t go BPA?

Gruden runs like he's spent a few weeks at an involuntary turkish bathhouse...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jon Gruden runs like a mom chasing her toddler through the park.<br><br>(video: <a href="https://twitter.com/SoSaysJ?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@SoSaysJ</a>, h/t: <a href="https://twitter.com/jeffwaldman24?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jeffwaldman24</a>) <a href="https://t.co/lfoRmMQu5D">pic.twitter.com/lfoRmMQu5D</a></p>&mdash; Korked Bats (@korkedbats) <a href="https://twitter.com/korkedbats/status/1049443667063255041?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 8, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Good thing they have him under contract for 9 3/4 more years.

Going west isn't hard, but going east is annoying. The last time I went to Europe I was grumpy and off-kilter for two or three days. It's a big mistake to leave later. I should place a bet against the Raiders that week.

Actually, I should place a bet against the Raiders every week, now that I think about it.

http://isgrudengoneyet.com

LMAO

Holy shit!!

LMAO

That's funny as shit and his whole time there is going to be glorious!

I always knew you posted on SA, somehow.

Honesty have no idea what that is. Saw it on Reddit.

Something Awful forums. It was created just this morning. Good shit travels fast, I guess.

Putting the money aside (yeah, right!) I would imagine that Chuckie is saying to himself - "Why the hell did I return to coaching?"........

That's exactly what I read on his face every time he talks. He's probably thinking he has to stick this out at least 2-3 years to not look bad too. But he already does.

God damn I love this thread. So much hilarity.

Jesus I haven't been over there in YEARS

AWESOME! :clap:

Why would you bet against the sure winners of the AFC West? We’re you not paying attention to the experts during the offseason?

That didn't take long!!! :eek::eek:

Gruden may have pulled of the greatest contract swindle since Bobby Bonilla got the Mets to pay him $1 million a year forever ROFL

It's not like Gruden swindled the Raiders. The Raiders basically came to him with an offer you'd only normally get from a Nigerian prince and he accepted. Can you blame him?

Raiders want a 1st rounder for Cooper, per Rapaport.

If you're a good team with crappy WR's it's not a bad idea...Baltimore? Green Bay?

Gruden wants to own the 1st round.

That 5th year option kind of hurts. He's guaranteed 1 year for 14 million next year. Teams want to take that on for a player like Cooper?

Your hope would be that getting him with a real QB would help him out.

Also, he got knocked the **** out yesterday. Can you trade players in the concussion protocol?

He needs to rebuild the team fast, he took over a shitshow and it's showing that the players don't fit his scheme. He'll get three to four years at this rate, which will be good for us. McKenzie will get canned before Gruden does.

Apparently Gruden benched Conley last weekend.

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Aside from the Mahomes megathread, this is my favorite thing to read on CP. So much joy and happiness.

Is Jon Gruden an idiot or is Reggie McKenzie really that bad?

I think it has to be both.

He needs to drop that price faster than Cooper drops passes.

Be funny if he wakes up in Cleveland.

Raider tears are so sweet.

https://youtu.be/qkXwQ-kYXKI

Like many here have pointed out Gruden's biggest accomplishment is the first drive his team put together on the Rams for which he had a decade to prepare for. They can cling on to it until they move to Vegas.

I was just listening to Simms and Lefkoe and they said that Carr averaged 0.1 air-yards on completed passes last Sunday.

Is that true? My God in Heaven.

FAX

YIKES

https://deadspin.com/ass-team-of-the...nce-1829764478
The team gave a 10-year, $100 million contract and complete control of the franchise to this towheaded freak, who last called a play in 2008 and has never been a personnel man. And what have they gotten out of their investment so far? A 1-5 record that should be 0-6 and some of the most embarrassing performances that any team has put forth during this young season. The 27-3 mushing they suffered at the hands of the Seahawks on Sunday constituted one of the saddest football games I’ve ever seen. The GIF at the top of this post, which shows Carr seemingly on the verge of tears after being sacked for the sixth and final time, is both genuinely depressing and already the defining moment of the Raiders’ season. Nothing better represents how quickly everything’s gone to shit than the quarterback who really and truly was good enough to earn a $125 million deal in 2017 blubbering, “Help help help help” while half-broken on the field

LMAO

Yikes is right, Mr. Buehler445. That, right there, is an amazing statistic. (If they're right.)

Probably not an NFL record, but if it is, not the one you want to see set by your franchise quarterback. Especially in a league where defenses are emasculated.

FAX

We're going to destroy them.

My God ... he is crying! They weren't joshing.

He's saying, "Help me up! Help me!"

Damn, man.

FAX

I don’t wish that on Carr. He’s Faid but he doesn’t deserve that. He hasn’t been the total one who sucks the penis that other Faid teams have been. Not sure I can say the same for Crabtree and Cooper, but I don’t wish complete psychological breakdown on the guy.

Simpatico on that sentiment.

But if that clip is any indication, it appears he's on the verge of one.

If this continues, he's going to need group therapy ... and it's going to need to be a very large group.

FAX

What do you think about Carr for bortles? Asking for a local fan base...

From that same article: LMAO


"So how did the Raiders manage to suck this bad? By essentially breaking the conventions of the game. The purpose of a passing offense is to move the ball down the field; the Raiders spent the game seeing what would happen if one was designed to do the opposite. Carr’s average air yards, which measures how many yards each pass travels down the field, was 0.1 yards. Here is what a visual representation of that looks like:"

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media...n2bbn76jzg.jpg

That GIF genuinely makes me feel bad for the guy. Hopefully Chucky runs him out of town and onto an NFC so I can root for the guy.

Number 77 needs his ass beat for allowing that to happen to his QB.

I'm not making fun of Carr. He's caught in the crossfire of what an absolute disaster Jon Gruden as HC is turning out to be. Seriously, once you're driven to the point of tears that aren't happy playing ****ing football, something is irreparably damaged.

It makes me just a little bit sad we end the season at home against the Raiders and there’s a better than average chance it’ll be Henne and not Mahomes who gets to shred their defense.

Henne will put up Mahomes level stats against our pathetic defense.

I really don't know how KC has managed to allow more yards than us.

Agreed. There are players I wouldn't feel bad if that happened to, but not many. Carr isn't one of them.

I'm not saying I want him to do well, but **** man. He might be done.

I hate saying this. But Smith got a boner seeing that.

Honestly I don't see why green bay wouldn't send a 1st for Cooper. Same with another team that thinks it is on the cusp for Carr, a late 2nd or late 1st or the longer this goes the draft capital goes down.

Because Cooper really isn't that good? He had the 3rd highest drop rate between 2015-2017. You can say he's being misused and I'd agree with you, but a lot of his problems are on him.

Didn't he get fat as **** too?

Must be all those painkillers

I'm getting flashbacks.

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Gruden is trying to re-implement the dink and dunk offense from decades ago, back when slow lopin' Rich Gannon was running it.

He has 1 drop this year.

There’s no reason he should be on pace for significantly less than 1,000 yards again this year.