And it has nothing to do with with Evans saying anything. He can have his political view point. The issue would be if he got in front of the Camera when he was pimping Captain America and started saying shit like Cap is all about some political viewpoint. That shit would sour me quick on any Cap movies.

To be fair, I really hadn't either. Looks like he's particularly supportive of LGBT rights (has a gay brother) and has been outspoken on all the typical equity issues on Twitter, but he doesn't seem to be that combative about it.

He was one of the early Covington commentators.

Yes, which makes him a piece of shit in my book. But he isn't pimping it during the Cap stuff so **** him but I will continue to watch Cap movies :D.

He’s outspokenly liberal on Twitter. There’s just not a lot of articles about it.

He was very active in the 2016 election, and said he was “embarrassed for America” after Trump won. I didn’t mean to cause such a stir, but I honestly think just as much could be written about Chris Evans’ positions as Brie Larsons.

Well, it sounds like he didn't do this stuff while promoting a movie. Also sounds like he addressed it a little more professionally. I don't really do twitter so if thats the only place he expresses himself, I'd never know.

I think I'm proud of the fact that I had to look that up to see what you were talking about.

If Larson had the ass of ScarJo I might see it.

Otherwise this movie just doesn't do it for me.

Because this woman can. not. act. I mean I dont expect an Academy Award perfomance or anything, esp for a popcorn MCU flick such as this...but she's really bad.

Well, she evidently could act at least once. She has an Oscar for Best Actress in a Leading Role.

I dont really care for the awards.

Its pretty rare that someone actually deserves one of those.

all bow to Heath Ledger RIP

This.

I can separate the art from the artist but THEY have to as well.

And I knew once she started running her mouth it would happen and sure enough an SJW controversy ends in changing the rules to protect the narrative.

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Now would probably be the perfect time for someone to swoop in and take the reigns from RT. Someone just needs a good enough website.

What in the bloody hell are you guys pissed at RT for? On what planet does it make sense to allow people to submit a reaction to a movie before it's even out? I've thought it was weird they allowed that for years, and this is just the event that made it obvious that it's a problem.

That's fair.

I think it's also a fair point Guru made about being vocal about politics/SJW shit while promoting a movie.

From my perspective, I just don't get trying to be a loud voice anywhere. I have a business that doesn't even rely that heavily on customers, but as a representation of my business (my brand, to put it into today's horseshit jargon), I am CONSTANTLY aware of what I say or how my shit looks and how it could be interpreted by a potential landlord or customer. As such, I just completely ****ing avoid anything that could piss people off or drive them away, ESPECIALLY if it has nothing to do with my business.

I don't talk politics, or any of the crazy shit that is going on with Smollet, Trump, religion, or any of the other controversial crap that is going on at the moment. Even if I'm the best guy in the world at reading people and articulate my position well, there is still a possibility that I run someone off. For what? Certainly not anything related to my business.

I talk that kind of stuff with a select few people who I know can separate me from my business. It's probably unhealthy to never talk about it, but I'm damn sure not going to do it in a position that could be construed as me representing my business.

So if I were making movies, I'd have the same approach, probably moreso. These people want the public to come see THEM perform in a entertainment activity. I would actively try not to say a goddamn thing that could run anyone off. Ever.

Now, that's not to say that she doesn't have to represent herself to get a job. She has to audition, deal with execs, and a whole bunch of shit more than I do. And maybe they pick up more people than they run off with this noise. Maybe Marvel's bulletproof and I'm off base.

I don't know, but it's not the approach I'd take.

I'll concede the movie stuff (it's possible he's said things like "Cap would be against X", but I'm too lazy to look it up), but "professional" isn't the word I'd use to describe some of Evans' political discourse.

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I'll quit cluttering the thread. My position is that a lot of the criticism over Larson is that she's "too outspoken", but many of the actors in the Marvel Universe are very outspoken (some even moreso). However, it's never impacted the or diminished the product on the screen. In my opinion, that's why CM deserves a proper chance.

As usual, I totally agree with your assessment. As well as how Larson's activism while "on the job" could sour on some people. I think the majority of online criticism I've seen about her doesn't delineate that, though, they just attack her stances as a person.

The non-profit I help run has a pretty even split between conservative and liberal donors (with a slight skew towards conservative contributors). While we're active on social media, we've never taken a domestic political position on anything. If our desire to be politically active causes someone to quit supporting us, that could take away a school lunch from a child half a world away. In the event our political activism ever takes that much of a priority for us, then we will have lost our way.

There are two big differences:

1) People have a right to their opinions. I don't care about my plumber's, doctor's, or mailman's political beliefs. I don't have to agree with someone to appreciate their talents. And to this point his opinions have not been infused into his performances. He might feel strongly about his opinions but to this point he hasn't felt the need to put it in his MCU work.

2) Bris has made both sexist and racist comments. Repeatedly. And she has marketed this film as a feminist commentary. Marvel and Disney have been very strict on the marketing of these films and if she wasn't reflecting their vision for the film they would have shut her down.

They didn't.

And there we go with the lie again.

They aren't reviewing a movie: it's a forum to discuss interest in a film. If anything fan chatter and word of mouth HELPS most films. High interest in a film is a good thing.

And good or bad the information a studio gains is very valuable. They get immediate feedback on the marketing of a film. This is important because films often spend nearly as much on the marketing as making the damned film itself. That's all this is a response to at this point because no one has seen the film.

The discussion is based on marketing and trailers and if you do or don't want to watch a film.

I don't pay attention to RT. Never go to the site or use it to decide whether I'm going to see a movie or not, so take this for what it's worth.

I think it was described pretty well in first part of the 2nd video (I think) posted by Rausch. It's not a reaction to a movie that is not released yet, it is a reaction to the marketing that has people saying "Yes, I want to see this" or "No, I don't want to see this" with a comment as to why they do or don't. The first video covers it as well if I'm remembering correctly - the guy basically says that websites & media are confusing the "Want to See" percent with the "Audience Review" which are 2 completely different things - which even RT admits is part of the problem.

I'm sure there are a people that were saying "I don't want to see this" because for some racist/sexist/trolling reason, but he showed a few comments that were essentially "the trailers have done nothing for me. Think I'll pass on this one."

Which is where I'm at. I know nothing about the character and the trailers haven't gotten me excited to see this one. Has nothing to do with Larson's political opinions. I try to avoid actors/actresses political opinions because generally they don't align with most of mine. But, I'm going to see it in theaters. I won't be in line for opening weekend because I'm just meh about the movie, but I'll definitely see it in theaters.

But it skews the data when trolls go out of their way to post negative reviews, sometimes under troll accounts, while the average viewer is business as usual. If the goal is for the average viewer to get a temperature on a movie... It's totally useless for the average user if trolls are downvoting stuff for reasons totally outside of the movie.

If I had a suggestion for RT, it would be to change the rating system to instead ask a follow up on why you thumbs up or thumbs downed it then figure out a better way to present the info. I could give a shit about an actors politics whether it's brie larson or Clint Eastwood. I just want to know if a movie is worth seeing.

Sure, but it's the equivalent of people posting on ChiefsPlanet to have people help them rig a poll. It's vote brigading and clearly isn't at all representative of the universe of people who may or may not be interested in a film.

In other words, it's useless. So I don't blame them for dumping it.

This whole thing just reeks of insecurity. I'm not a huge fan of Trump, but he, Ivanka, Cohen, and his whole crew can show up in Endgame for a cameo to talk about Russia and I'm still going to see it.

I just don't understand how people can live their lives SO PISSED OFF over politics. Just calm the **** down and enjoy an entertaining film.

Yup. And if it was a political site, fine. But average users just want a temperature check on the movie and id bet the majority of RT users want politics to stay the hell out of that experience. Granted... I totally get that it works the other way too. We don't need to be lectured about how much we were supposed to love black panther. But just as people want to separate politics from sports, at least for critical movie reviews id want that separation too. I don't think any Clint Eastwood movie provoked even close to this kind of response on RT.

I get what you're saying. Essentially, you feel that people are going to RT to say they don't want to see it to just tank the score.

I didn't look at the comments on RT other than what was in the video, so I can't really argue the other side of that thought - that people generally have a "meh" attitude about the marketing thus far and legitimately don't want to see it.

This is a prime example of the problem as some have pointed out. It was fine to have something about who wants to see a movie. It showed who was interested in it. Obviously people are not as interested as they were with the other MCU movies.

You have people in this thread who you know aren't trolls falling in line with what was happening with their "Want to see" numbers but yet you still call it people being trolls. Head meet sand I guess.

It has nothing to do with reviews and it was perfectly fine having it. I don't think you watched either of Rausch's videos or you wouldn't have made this mistake... at least I don't think you would have.

How many times does it need to be said... they aren't reviews for ****s sake.

There are two types of people in the world, ones that understand data.

So to clarify, if I post a poll from the KC Star on ChiefsPlanet, tell people that they should help me rig it, and the KC Star chooses to take it down after noticing that people were being driven there to rig the poll, the KC Star is awful?

In plenty of cases I'm sure these are fake or mult accounts. Or people who know nothing about the movie but were told to click on a link and go be outraged... That's basically trolling to me. It's a disservice to those who legitimately want an opinion. To me it's like Amazon... Do you want a good product to get a 2 star rating because one person had a bad experience, so he set up mult accounts and then set up a troll campaign where he blasted a link to hundreds of followers who voted on a product they never bought? That isn't due process. That's a rigged result. And it does a disservice to a person who genuinely wants to know bullshit aside whether to care about the movie or not. It doesn't matter if it's a rating or a temperature check, it's not at all what the site is intended to do.

I've never used Rotten Tomatoes or critics to determine if I want to see a movie or not. Not once. Never.

I watch trailers and if the movie looks interesting.....I'll go see it. If I'm meh about it....I'll wait to rent it.

This. I'll glance at it, maybe, but usually I've already made up my mind if I'm going to put the effort into going to it way before it comes out (usually).

This RT thing makes me feel like this is nothing more than unchecked social media running rampant. Everyone has a voice on the internet, nobody is ever wrong, and everyone needs to be heard RIGHT NOW DAMN YOU. It just seems like that is what is happening here, to me at least.

Yup. All the horror over Netflix getting rid of reviews and did anyone even notice they were gone? Espn shut off comments because back and forth trolling was a big problem. I go to a sports site for sports news. I go to rotten tomatoes to get a nudge on movies I could watch. I don't want that experience bogged down in this garbage. And by the way, these reviews are shut off for all movies, liberal or conservative. Most of the main users of RT won't even know its missing.

If your business model is based on people going to your site and talking about/rating/reviewing (and then possibly buying tickets through them) a movie and you have to shut down part of the discussion on said movies because 1. they think people are trolling(and if they are can't seem to handle it) 2. Don't like the outcome of what some people are saying and/or 3. have people that just don't even understand what they are looking at on your site(cough, cough) then I think your business model could be in trouble.

You are trying to compare apples to lizards. Not even anywhere near close to what is being discussed here.

I think a better example would simply be you shutting down the Media Center sub forum because you had trolls in a certain thread. Why would you do that? Don't you just handle the trolls if that is what they truly are? It still isn't apples to apples but it is a lot closer to this scenario then your example.

Welcome to Modern America.

**** yes I did. Netflix recommendation system is absolute shit. Reviews were the only way to get a sense of what a film really was. Not saying that every review was worthwhile, but the Netflix descriptions are pure shit and the algorithm that pushes shit I have absolutely no interest in seeing has made it that I never browse Netflix anymore.

Even worse, IMO, is that they got rid of the "not interested" button so stupid shit keeps getting pushed at me. /rant

Back on topic to Captain Marvel, I will see it. I don't do social media. I follow a few experts in my field and some sports/tech news folks on Twitter, but I don't end up seeing or getting involved in all the BS that our society seems to thrive off of these days. So none of this mess bothers me.

:shrug:

I think most of the problem is how Rotten Tomatoes is now being used as a marketing tool while at the same time trying to maintain a user/critic driven system. Commercials for movies are now including the RT score. Warner Bros. now owns a part of RT as well. Which is great until you have some kind of backlash, legit or otherwise.

Just for the record, it's not at all uncommon to boot the trolls from the thread and in some cases move the threads to the Romper Room.

Then you can thank the troll campaigns that went to great lengths to downvote movies they never saw before. By the end, those reviews became almost totally useless for things that had nothing to do with the movie. Uber has the same problem with driver ratings. And Amazon has a constant problem with product reviews. And the biggest people who suffer are those who genuinely want to use the reviews for what they're intended for. The product itself.

What difference could it really make to a movie if 1,000,000 troll accounts went and gave it a "I don't want to see it"? Will that change your opinion on whether you (or anyone) want to see it or not?

Don't disagree at all.

Reading through a dozen reviews and finding one or two that are good enough to assist in making informed decisions can be worthwhile. For me, with Netflix, it was. Losing that option has caused Netflix to lose much of my viewing time.

For Lyft (I actually boycott Uber and use Lyft), I don't think I have ever read a driver review. I think the difference their is that for me, it's just a get me a ride from point A to point B as quickly as possible. Bottled water, music, and potpourri don't mean anything to me.

Amazon is a huge issue for me. I use the fakespot plugin and even that is not foolproof. I've found several false positives in their scoring, but the review system there is worthwhile enough for me to spend the time sifting through the garbage.

Guess it just boils down to what I want reviews for, and those I do, I would appreciate the vendor/host/platform taking steps to clean up the trash. Where possible.

You're defending what's happened as if you have stock in the companies involved and can't afford a price drop.

Yep.

I'm a top tech reviewer at Amazon and I have to fight constantly through the paid reviews to get mine seen.

RT did the right thing by not allowing pre-release reviews. See the movie, review it legitimately. It's that simple.

No, I just think that people love to get outraged about things that don't matter. None of what Larson has said matters. Nothing about Rotten Tomatoes matters. Someone's forecast about how much money it's going to make doesn't matter. It's all bullshit.

My position in this thread, as it has always been, is that the movie is likely to be good based on Marvel's track record, but if it's not it'll tank.

I'm just incredibly frustrated that this thread is a shit show that has very little do to with the movie that we're supposed to be talking about, and I feel bad for those who care so much about the opinions of others that it interferes with your ability to enjoy a goddamn movie.

The end.

MaDaFace!

Agreed. Honestly, I wouldn't know anything Larson has said except that it's been posted in here.

No we don't!

:D

Did they boot trolls? Did they only shut down this part for Captain Marvel?

No, they shutdown the entire piece of their website.

So you are sick of people injecting stuff that doesn't belong in a conversation about a movie if I am understanding this correctly?

Basically. Idgaf unless they did something illegal or hurt someone in any way physically etc then that may be a reason for me to not support the movie.

How many pages has it been since there was any talk about the actual movie?

Depends. How many posts per page are you set to? :D

Here's a mashup vid with the latest teaser/trailers. There's a couple of shots in there I hadn't seen before....

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See.

This, right here, should be the preamble included in every movie. Even foreign movies, lifetime movies, and documentary films. It should run after the credits and before the first scene. And it should be slowly scrolled in that cool, fuzzy typeface with sparkles. And it should be narrated by Sam Elliot.

Thank you, Mr. DaFace. Your contributions to art and the world of cinema are appreciated.

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This might be buried in here, but it cracks me up that they did an hour-long live stream of the cat just sitting around.

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For anyone who knows the comics, does the cat...do something? Like, does it talk? Or otherwise is it a character in some way more than just her pet? I'm just trying to wrap my head around why people are so excited about the damn cat (and I have two cats - I'm by no means a hater of felines).

I have a cat named Apollo who looks just like that. He puked on a pile of clean laundry last week. ****er.

Right. But Solo was the sacrificial lamb as recompense for Episode 8. This movie seems to just be genuinely disliked because the lead actress is using it as a political platform. Also trolling happens on the internet consistently, but I don't think it happens in such a widespread manner as people might think. I'd suspect about 70% of those "want to see" ratings are genuine and the other 30% are trolls for and against the movie. It was overwhelmingly negative. If it's so easy to downvote then wouldn't it be just as easy to upvote and cancel it out? It goes both ways. Just my $0.02

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Fascinating. Guess we'll see how they handle it in the movie.

Yeah, they couldn't use the name "Chewie" so they changed it to "Goose."

I read that they had difficulties with filming scenes with the cat, because Brie Larson is allergic to cats. LOL...

And that's where you're dead wrong. Marketing matters.

Marketing sells everything from toilet paper to movies. Bad marketing costs millions.

Would you say "it doesn't matter" if Chris Evans was asked about diversity in Cap movies and he said "I don't care what some black guy thinks. The film wasn't made for him."

That's the kind of shit the star of this movie says. Only change black to white.

This type of politics is taking a story about characters who already are diverse, different, hell even aliens who don't care and work together for the common good and changing that to a theme of not only is sex important but it's the emphasis.

And it doesn't matter if that's in the movie or not - THAT'S HOW YOU ARE MARKETING THE FILM.

The comments weren't removed for trolls - there was no trolling. There were almost no offensive or insulting comments on there. There are vids you can pull up where people took screen shots before the commenting was closed. It was overwhelmingly negative feedback based on the marketing of the film.

This was a movie that had a 90+% of people wanting to see it and that dropped into the 20's in three weeks of the star running her mouth. That is interest in your product tanking because of your marketing.

Na. Still don't care. Still think you are crazy for caring. Michael Jackson was a creep, but I'm gonna stop listening to his music. Kevin Spacey is a creep, but the Usual Suspects is still one of my favorite movies. Gary Glitter is a creep, but I still wish the Chiefs hadn't changed the TD song.

I'll never understand why people seem to enjoy being pissed off all the time. Smoke some weed or something, calm down, and enjoy art for what is is.

Wait for the Muslim versions Coming To A Theatre Near You...

I finally read up on this a bit and watched a couple of videos. Prior to all this, I had never heard of Brie Larson, had no idea who she was, or that she'd won an Oscar.

Well, she certainly comes off like an arrogant twat to me. Most of them are a little better at hiding it. Addressing the controversy in interviews you can pretty clearly see the anger in her eyes. I don't think she's much of a fan of the little people, regardless of what sex or color they are. Which makes her typical Hollywood elite.

Anyway, I'm sick as **** of all this Marvel comic book shit anyway, so I wouldn't have gone to see it in the first place. But had I been on the fence, her attitude would have probably pushed me off it.

And this bitch is nothing special. While I don't think Gal Gadot was the ideal Wonder Woman, Gal Gadot is definitely exotically beautiful. Larson looks like she fell off a bland ass Barbie Doll assembly line.

I don't understand the focus on her looks. It makes sense within the comic book world that someone like Black Widow would be a sexpot because she uses it as one of many weapons in her arsenal as a non-super super hero.

Captain Marvel doesn't need to have a thicc thighs and an ass that fills out the back of her suit in order to do her job as she has other things going for her. Also, Captain Marvel is pretty important in Rogue's backstory and Mystique is a major foe in her story line. If Marvel intends to bring the X-Men into the MCU... it only makes sense to bring Danvers into the story line.

I do, though, get being overwhelmed by Marvel/super hero content. I'm somewhat in the same boat but I'm dealing with it by forgoing DC content in favor of Marvel.

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As for her being political? As long as she isn't ****ing children and hurling puppies off an overpass... I'm hard pressed to care. The only actor whose movies I actively avoid is Tom Cruise and only because the guy is a certifiable cultist whackjob.

You're obviously way more invested in this than I am. I didn't even know there was a female Captain Marvel - you say Captain Marvel, I think Billy Batson and Shazam. I was never into comic books as a kid.

That said, it just goes without saying that whether male or female, the star of a major movie should be attractive. At least it used to. She just does nothing for me. Her barely disguised "**** you" attitude doesn't help.

And I'm just the opposite on Cruise. Yeah, he's a whacked out cultist douche, but he keeps it to himself. I generally enjoy his movies.

Better call Marvel and tell them to pull the movie from theaters; some guy in the Midwest doesn't get a hard on when he sees Brie Larson in costume.

Go for it. You might spend a few days on hold, though.

I, for one, don't care what she says. She's an actress. They rise and fade. Come and go. And some go crazier than others. Occasionally, one will succumb to a life of alcoholism and years of isolation and melancholy while their best clothing rots in the closet.

On the other hand, I don't get along particularly well with the traditional nerd class either. In fact, uber nerds sometimes give me the creeps. One minute you're merely trying to finish your meal and the next minute they've contrived and articulated some obscure D&D scenario ... asking you if you want to use your conjuring powers to open a secret door or have another coffee with dessert. It's creepy.

Let them fight their wars. Actresses vs. Nerds. Go at it. If I like the movie, I may see it twice.

FAX

I've always liked Marvel more than DC. Their super heroes, on average, seemed more human/average and less boyscout/anti-hero to me and that made a big difference in how much I could relate to the character. For example... Superman, IMO, is hands down the worst super hero to exist.

If the comics weren't big for you... are you familiar with Shazam because of the TV show in the 70's? I never watched it so I was largely unfamiliar with character other than light reading on the naming issue between the companies.

Different strokes for different folks but... she has enough going to grab my attention.

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Yes, I watched the Shazam TV show when I was a kid. That was the only Captain Marvel I knew about until a couple of months ago. Kind of ironic that that's coming out soon as a movie, as well. I'm actually kind of looking forward to that. Although from the trailer it looks more like a superhero version of Big than the old Saturday morning show.

And she's okay. Kind of a Plain Jane face and thin lips. Decent rack, I guess.

I like brunettes with big brown eyes.

Even that pic makes her look like "JFC take the picture"

This thread made me realize we never activated the thumbs anywhere but the Lounge. People seem to like them, so they're now on in here and all the other forums except DC and the Romper Room, which seem like they'd be a shit show.

It really does, lol

Pre-ordered tickets for the 8th and decent seats were basically impossible to find in my neck of the woods.

FAX

Yeah, even a couple weeks ago the best seats were already gone around here.

A lot of Marvel fans are excited to see the film, I hope that the hype will be worth the wait.

I like that it's getting positive reviews. It'll be important for this film to do well, I think. The MCU is unique in that it has created a pretty great backlog of interesting female characters.

The Scarlet Witch is a mega-powered but emotionally immature. The Black Widow came across in films like Cap 2 and Avengers 2 as someone doing what she can to survive. Gamora has the background of an assassin but the heart of a noble warrior. Mantis just wants to exist in freedom. And this doesn't even include Jessica Jones, who is Marvel's best-ever female but her role in the MCU is relegated to the Netflix street-levelers. Or the bloodthirsty Hela, or the whipsmart Shuri. The Wasp has a ton of potential, too, as her action scenes have been phenomenal.

The MCU has done such a brilliant job cultivating a good backlog of female characters in the background that I have a hard time thinking they can't push one to the front of a movie. I can't help but think the eventual Black Widow movie won't make gazillions of dollars, and there are tons of alternative arthouse possiblities with characters like Rogue, or Squirrel Girl, or Ms. Marvel, or Kate Bishop.

But all those characters have shades of subtlety and quirks. I think your cinematic universe needs a broad heart-of-gold character at its center for all the other idiosyncrasies to bounce off of. The universe of female characters needs Captain Marvel to land.

The MCU needs that character, too. For a decade-plus, it's been Chris Evans' Captain America. For the next decade, it'll probably be Brie Larson's Captain Marvel.

I'm sure this movie will at least be pretty good, based on the early reviews on Twitter. But if it's a smash success and a really good film, we're looking at an excellent decade-plus ahead, and a new generation of diverse superheroes from every walk of life, rather than the usual parade of white guys.