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Munson 04-23-2019 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14221524)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs and Frank Clark reached agreement on a 5 yrs, $105.5 million contract - greater total than DeMarcus Lawrence, with $63.5 million guaranteed, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120752347469221889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Ho-lee ****!

ToxSocks 04-23-2019 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14221488)
Edge rushers are valuable, but they aren't nearly as valuable as guys who can generate push up the middle in today's NFL. How many times do you watch Brady distribute the ball much faster than an edge rusher could get to him?

For this massive compensation package and a massive contract and still needing help at corner and elsewhere, now losing multiple picks... not sure I like it.

This offseason has been positive but Frank Clark might be a bridge too far
We have an interior push with Jones and Nnadi. You need an outside rush as well. Otherwise today's mobile-ish QB's will roll out.

Interior Push is great for fossils like Brady and Rivers.

Against non statues teams will expose your lack or outside rush with plays that attack the short perimeter.

You need both.

Guess what? Chiefs have both now.

Dline is done.

Now we can focus on the next two levels.

ArrowheadHawk 04-23-2019 12:17 PM
5 years $105.5 million

staylor26 04-23-2019 12:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14221528)
They sent basically what is a 2nd round pick (29 is garbo tier) and we expect them to be content with that, in a draft that had maybe 17 first round players.

Cp: this first round is a butt****
Cp: why did we trade our first
This.

I’m not thrilled with the compensation, but it’s amazing how some are acting like it’s awful all around and we aren’t getting an elite 25 y/o pass rusher.

ToxSocks 04-23-2019 12:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14221524)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs and Frank Clark reached agreement on a 5 yrs, $105.5 million contract - greater total than DeMarcus Lawrence, with $63.5 million guaranteed, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120752347469221889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Not my money, don't care.

WhawhaWhat 04-23-2019 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14221524)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs and Frank Clark reached agreement on a 5 yrs, $105.5 million contract - greater total than DeMarcus Lawrence, with $63.5 million guaranteed, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120752347469221889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Sweet Daddy Hate 04-23-2019 12:18 PM
What the **** is Clark Hunt's deal anyway? Can he not find ANY balance in his CEO duties of this team? For years, it was nothing but choir boys and shit. Now, we're becoming the ****ing Wife Beater Brigade around here, and he's just sitting in his office, waiting for the next high dollar player to get yanked off the field and sent to ****ing Cleveland.

Seriously; what is WRONG with this guy?

duncan_idaho 04-23-2019 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14221499)
Isn't Frank Clark on the last year of his contract?

17.8m base salary this year and is almost assuredly going to announce a new contract with him soon. So all the money we just cut is going to be added back again and in the same position.

Running in place.

Except that money is being added back for a younger, better player who isn’t a liability in one phase of the game. And who also is more consistent and healthy.

The real loss there is in this year’s first round pick.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14221486)
100% this.

I like the upgrade from Ford quite a bit. He’s a more versatile player.

Just wish they could have gotten it done by making the compensation happen without the first-round pick.

The Franchise 04-23-2019 12:19 PM
Hopefully they front loaded some of it this year since we have a ton of cap space left.

Marcellus 04-23-2019 12:19 PM
I'm telling you fools, this defense is going to be top 10.

I do wonder if this means Hill is less likely to get paid after this season more than anything. He may have ****ed himself and they went defense with his $$.

ToxSocks 04-23-2019 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14221466)
welll except for Veech being the main reason we have Mahomes under center. The best goddamn draft pick of all time.
No. That's a damn lie.

BigRedChief 04-23-2019 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14221524)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs and Frank Clark reached agreement on a 5 yrs, $105.5 million contract - greater total than DeMarcus Lawrence, with $63.5 million guaranteed, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120752347469221889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
You knew he was going to get a few more $’s than Lawrence.

tmax63 04-23-2019 12:19 PM
Can you imagine what Daly and Spags are going to do with Jones, Clark and Nnadi. I'd bet Daly had wet dreams of talent like this on the d-line when he was at NE and BB was giving him JAGs.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 12:19 PM
Does this mean Hill is gone?

The Franchise 04-23-2019 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14221550)
I'm telling you fools, this defense is going to be top 10.

I do wonder if this means Hill is less likely to get paid after this season more than anything. He may have ****ed himself and they went defense with his $$.
I'll be interested to see what Jones gets. That's going to be crazy having $200 million tied up on the defensive line.

Marcellus 04-23-2019 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14221551)
No. That's a damn lie.
How so?

neech 04-23-2019 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14221544)
Not my money, don't care.

Chiefs should've gave 20 million more for him it isn't out of my account either.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 14221555)
Can you imagine what Daly and Spags are going to do with Jones, Clark and Nnadi. I'd bet Daly had wet dreams of talent like this on the d-line when he was at NE and BB was giving him JAGs.
Now I’m getting really moist

Mecca 04-23-2019 12:20 PM
Frank Clark has had 0 issues in quite awhile, at some point you have to be willing to forgive guys for mistakes.

chiefzilla1501 04-23-2019 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 14221528)
They sent basically what is a 2nd round pick (29 is garbo tier) and we expect them to be content with that, in a draft that had maybe 17 first round players.

Cp: this first round is a butt****
Cp: why did we trade our first
Adding in the second round pick, we basically gave up a top 20 pick. I don't love the trade comp. But oh well. We definitely got a hell of a lot better on D.

JakeF 04-23-2019 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 14221505)
Yes - but he's restructuring a new deal or this trade would have never happened.
I understand, but that restructure is going to put a contract right back on the books that is just like Justin Houston.

We dropped Houston and Ford because of money. Now we are adding the same money back onto the team, at the same position. People said we cut expensive edge rushers because Spagnuolo didn't want those edge rushers.

We trade Ford(13 sacks) and get a 2nd.
We trade a 1st, a 2nd and we swap 3rds for Clark(13 sacks)

ToxSocks 04-23-2019 12:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14221550)
I'm telling you fools, this defense is going to be top 10.

I do wonder if this means Hill is less likely to get paid after this season more than anything. He may have ****ed himself and they went defense with his $$.
Eh.

They still need help at LB and in the backfield.

But yeah, i've been waiting for a move like this all offseason.

I've been getting blasted for not celebrating JAGS like Ogbah, all the while telling everyone that he's a replacement level player.

Then the Chiefs make a move for a REAL player.

#Vindicated.

Eleazar 04-23-2019 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14221547)
What the **** is Clark Hunt's deal anyway? Can he not find ANY balance in his CEO duties of this team? For years, it was nothing but choir boys and shit. Now, we're becoming the ****ing Wife Beater Brigade around here, and he's just sitting in his office, waiting for the next high dollar player to get yanked off the field and sent to ****ing Cleveland.

Seriously; what is WRONG with this guy?
If you want to go become a Browns fan, there's the door --->

We'll gladly send you off to BrownsPlanet with a fruit basket for them

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-23-2019 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14221524)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs and Frank Clark reached agreement on a 5 yrs, $105.5 million contract - greater total than DeMarcus Lawrence, with $63.5 million guaranteed, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1120752347469221889?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Jesus ****ing Christ. :facepalm:

Welp, that's a lot of cap going to the probation office sooner rather than later. Great job Chiefs!

The Franchise 04-23-2019 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14221566)
I understand, but that restructure is going to put a contract right back on the books that is just like Justin Houston.

We dropped Houston and Ford because of money. Now we are adding the same money back onto the team, at the same position. People said we cut expensive edge rushers because Spagnuolo didn't want those edge rushers.

We trade Ford(13 sacks) and get a 2nd.
We trade a 1st, a 2nd and we swap 3rds for Clark(13 sacks)
Ford and Houston were not only about money.

Ford was a walking injury and he was shit against the run.
Houston couldn't play a whole ****ing season and was on the decline.

stumppy 04-23-2019 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14221543)
This.

I’m not thrilled with the compensation, but it’s amazing how some are acting like it’s awful all around and we aren’t getting an elite 25 y/o pass rusher.
No shit. Someone posted earlier 'We have a one year window to win now'.

JFC

Sassy Squatch 04-23-2019 12:22 PM
DPOTY compensation for a borderline elite talent.

Aspengc8 04-23-2019 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14221487)
I can't wait to watch everybody bitch about how much the defense sucks this year.

It was always going to suck, but the improvements we're going to make with Clark are negligible. It's a transition year. We've still got question marks all over this unit, and the players who in theory should be right with the program are still going to make mental errors.

It's a bad deal.
You are overreacting a bit to scheme transition/changes. It's not that complicated.

JakeF 04-23-2019 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 14221555)
Can you imagine what Daly and Spags are going to do with Jones, Clark and Nnadi. I'd bet Daly had wet dreams of talent like this on the d-line when he was at NE and BB was giving him JAGs.
why couldn't spags do the same with Jones, Houston, Ford, and Nnadi?

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-23-2019 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 14221568)
If you want to go become a Browns fan, there's the door --->

We'll gladly send you off to BrownsPlanet with a fruit basket for them
Yes, because that's EXACTLY the point I was making you dumb ****.

Marcellus 04-23-2019 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate (Post 14221569)
Jesus ****ing Christ. :facepalm:

Welp, that's a lot of cap going to the probation office sooner rather than later. Great job Chiefs!
Your disapproval of this move is very very reassuring to me. Thanks.

BigRedChief 04-23-2019 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14221550)
I'm telling you fools, this defense is going to be top 10.

I do wonder if this means Hill is less likely to get paid after this season more than anything. He may have ****ed himself and they went defense with his $$.
No way Hill gets a long term deal this year or probably in the off season. If it’s not guaranteed $’s due to off the field issues so the Chiefs aren’t stuck with a long term suspended but getting paid Hill.

O.city 04-23-2019 12:22 PM
3 years and 2 option years.

stumppy 04-23-2019 12:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14221566)
I understand, but that restructure is going to put a contract right back on the books that is just like Justin Houston.

We dropped Houston and Ford because of money. Now we are adding the same money back onto the team, at the same position. People said we cut expensive edge rushers because Spagnuolo didn't want those edge rushers.

We trade Ford(13 sacks) and get a 2nd.
We trade a 1st, a 2nd and we swap 3rds for Clark(13 sacks)
More reasons than money.

The Franchise 04-23-2019 12:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14221579)
3 years and 2 option years.
Good. That's how it should have been worked out.

ToxSocks 04-23-2019 12:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14221559)
How so?
It's been well established that it was a team wide decision. Yes, Veach "Banged the table" for him, but EVERYONE was on board. Dorsey wanted him. Reid wanted him. Clark wanted him. It wasn't just Veach.

And it was Dorsey who pulled off a masterful trade to make it happen.

I have yet to see Veach pull off a trade of that caliber.

tredadda 04-23-2019 12:23 PM
I might be one of the few that doesn’t think this is a bad deal as long as the Chiefs don’t hinder their ability to sign the players they need to sign.

We got a better player than anyone we could have gotten (most likely) at #29. Some people on here are placing way too much value on a late 1st round pick (essentially it’s a high 2nd). We really only gave up the worst of our 2nds next year for a high end pass rusher. This is a much better deal in retrospect.

JimBaker48.8 04-23-2019 12:23 PM
Why didn't the Chiefs trade for Jadeveon Clowney who's also available and a better player than Clark ?

Jerm 04-23-2019 12:23 PM
The more I think about this....the more I really like it.

I'm not married to draft picks like others, did think a 1st should've been a no, but keeping both 2nds this year was huge.

Clark and Jones are going to wreck people next season.

Hammock Parties 04-23-2019 12:23 PM
This is hot.

Veach is all in for the SB.

This changes the entire dynamic of our defense.

ToxSocks 04-23-2019 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14221578)
No way Hill gets a long term deal this year or probably in the off season. If it’s not guaranteed $’s due to off the field issues so the Chiefs aren’t stuck with a long term suspended but getting paid Hill.
After his drama, he's earned himself a prove it year.

'Reek will get paid next offseason when Watkins comes off the books.

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 04-23-2019 12:24 PM
Dude is gonna ball out next year

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Frank Clark to me on <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> trade: &quot;I feel like I&#39;m good. I wanted to be somewhere where I&#39;m wanted, where I&#39;m appreciated. I thank God that KC came in &amp; showed that...In life u just want to be shown that you are appreciated sometimes &amp; I feel like this was one of those things.&quot;</p>&mdash; ig: josinaanderson (@JosinaAnderson) <a href="https://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1120754790248484865?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Jerm 04-23-2019 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JimBaker48.8 (Post 14221585)
Why didn't the Chiefs trade for Jadeveon Clowney who's also available and a better player than Clark ?
No he's not.

stumppy 04-23-2019 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14221577)
Your disapproval of this move is very very reassuring to me. Thanks.
ROFL

That's exactly what I was thinking.

Aspengc8 04-23-2019 12:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14221575)
why couldn't spags do the same with Jones, Houston, Ford, and Nnadi?
Because 2 of your 4 names are not even-front scheme friendly.

ToxSocks 04-23-2019 12:24 PM
I feel like half the people in this thread are just mad because their Thursday was ruined.

thabear04 04-23-2019 12:24 PM
5 years $105.5M with $63.5 guaranteed.

Chris Meck 04-23-2019 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tmax63 (Post 14221555)
Can you imagine what Daly and Spags are going to do with Jones, Clark and Nnadi. I'd bet Daly had wet dreams of talent like this on the d-line when he was at NE and BB was giving him JAGs.
Dude.

We're going to ****ing wreck worlds.

Marcellus 04-23-2019 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14221583)
It's been well established that it was a team wide decision. Yes, Veach "Banged the table" for him, but EVERYONE was on board. Dorsey wanted him. Reid wanted him. Clark wanted him. It wasn't just Veach.

And it was Dorsey who pulled off a masterful trade to make it happen.

I have yet to see Veach pull off a trade of that caliber.
Veach is the one who found Mahomes and pushed him on everyone. He is literally the MAIN reason we have him.

I have no idea how you could have seen Veach pull of a trade of that caliber at this point considering a trade of that caliber was basically like a once every 30 year kind of deal.


I will say that this trade is going to be the make or break move of his GM tenure in KC though.

stumppy 04-23-2019 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBaker48.8 (Post 14221585)
Why didn't the Chiefs trade for Jadeveon Clowney who's also available and a better player than Clark ?
:shake:

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-23-2019 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 14221573)
DPOTY compensation for a borderline elite talent.
You would think we just drafted Von Miller or something.

ChiefBlueCFC 04-23-2019 12:25 PM
I'll probably feel better about this trade after the draft

Mecca 04-23-2019 12:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBaker48.8 (Post 14221585)
Why didn't the Chiefs trade for Jadeveon Clowney who's also available and a better player than Clark ?
If you think Clowney is a better player you don't watch the games and just know Clowneys name cause Clarks better than him.

Tribal Warfare 04-23-2019 12:26 PM
BTW, now we'll be flooded with articles concerning Frank Clark's mom being a crack whore in South Central LA

BigRedChief 04-23-2019 12:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 14221584)
I might be one of the few that doesn’t think this is a bad deal as long as the Chiefs don’t hinder their ability to sign the players they need to sign.

We got a better player than anyone we could have gotten (most likely) at #29. Some people on here are placing way too much value on a late 1st round pick (essentially it’s a high 2nd). We really only gave up the worst of our 2nds next year for a high end pass rusher. This is a much better deal in retrospect.
Swapping out Ford and his comp pick and the 29th pick for a young proven player seems like a good move to me. Especially when all I’ve heard from the draftniks was there was nobody worth a 1st rounder after pick 16.

TwistedChief 04-23-2019 12:27 PM
We needed more immediate talent on defense. Doesn't seem like Veach felt we were going to acquire that in the draft. The guy said the team is in win-now mode and this move speaks to that. I don't love the compensation but it's not that far off. If we had given up the 49ers 2020 2nd, I'd feel a lot worse.

And as Pugs points out - this should portend good things for Hill as I have some real difficulty thinking Clark Hunt would give the okay for this trade if Hill were on his way out.

We just got a lot closer to winning the Super Bowl next year.

Aspengc8 04-23-2019 12:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 14221587)
This is hot.

Veach is all in for the SB.

This changes the entire dynamic of our defense.
Don't sleep on nnadi either. Had a hell of a rookie year as a 1 tech.

WhawhaWhat 04-23-2019 12:27 PM
Frank Clark just needs to mention that he wants to play with Mahomes and loves BBQ and the fanbase will be all:

https://media0.giphy.com/media/9J6Rp...A5FY/giphy.gif

The Franchise 04-23-2019 12:27 PM
I'm not sure how they feel about the safety group on this team....but they have to come out of the 2nd round with a CB.

Donger 04-23-2019 12:27 PM
So, a great defensive player for a defense that everyone agrees needs help, and CP hates it?

LMAO

Love this place.

ToxSocks 04-23-2019 12:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 14221598)
Veach is the one who found Mahomes and pushed him on everyone. He is literally the MAIN reason we have him.

I have no idea how you could have seen Veach pull of a trade of that caliber at this point considering a trade of that caliber was basically like a once every 30 year kind of deal.


I will say that this trade is going to be the make or break move of his GM tenure in KC though.
Veach's trades up to this point have been lackluster. It's not like we stole Frank Clark the way we stole Mahomes. And the compensation he got for Peters and Ford leave a lot to be desired.

And again, Veach may have "found" him (that WAS his job afterall) but Reid, Dorsey etc all signed off on him. Hell, even Alex Smith signed off on him.

And NONE of that matter unless Dorsey pulls that trade off.

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-23-2019 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14221597)
Dude.

We're going to ****ing wreck worlds.
Yeah, we BETTER wreck worlds. That's where were at now. That grace period I was ready to give this defense just went RIGHT out the ****ing window.

And that little **** stick GM of ours better have an idea or three for LB and CB while he's throwing $$$ around like a drunk sailor, the little prick.

ToxSocks 04-23-2019 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donger (Post 14221612)
So, a great defensive player for a defense that everyone agrees needs help, and CP hates it?

LMAO

Love this place.
Yet they'll celebrate Ogbah and Attouchu.

Unreal.

rabblerouser 04-23-2019 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14221535)
Veach scouted him.

Dorsey did the dirty work. Dorsey pulled off the trade up. He did it for a reasonable price. And he smokescreened 5 or 6 other GMs and had them stunned when the trade went through and we got our guy.

THAT is the real reason why we have Mahomes. And I'm not even a Dorsey apologist. I'm just stating facts. There are parts of being a GM that go beyond being a front office scout who happens to have an ear with the guys in charge.

Veach has two modes of deals: piddly low risk deals and deals that make you go, "Jesus Christ, were you ****ing drunk, Brett?"

There's no in between. And there are no in between good deals. His best ones have been the low risk kind that have produced some kind of effect or player. The crap ones are REEEEALLY crap. And they stick around for a long time.

Dorsey had some good ones in his time. The first Jamaal extension. The Abdullah contract. The Kelce pick and subsequent extension. The Allen Bailey extension. He's had some crap ones, too, but he at least got some reasonable ones.

Veach has zero. It's either top of the market or a lukewarm "who cares?" type of situation.
All I want to know is :

Have we traded for the true piece of shit yet?

AND

Does he know where the line of scrimmage is??

Iconic 04-23-2019 12:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 14221476)
Are you ****ing high? I mean, seriously. Crack is whack.

You really think a #29 pick was going to produce like Frank Clark over the next few seasons-especially 2019? And 2020? and 2021? Incredibly unlikely. The REASON you want cap flexibility is for the ability to...well, do things like this-get a proven playmaker, young, in his prime, no injury history. We can frontload Clark's deal some and spread it out. It's a smart move. AND he's 25 ****ing years old. He's just in his prime years.

We gave up a late #2. We gained 10 spots in the 3rd this year.

Clark and Jones are going to wreck offensive lines for the next several years. This defense just took a MAJOR step forward.

You guys are nuts.

I have off the field concerns with Clark, but as a player, this is a MAJOR, HUGE talent increase.

What I do believe is the combination of a first round pick, second round pick, and ability to sign any star in future FA's to the tune of 20m AAV will collectively be better than what Frank Clark will produce here in KC.

TribalElder 04-23-2019 12:28 PM
105.5 million with 63.5 guaranteed

Marcellus 04-23-2019 12:29 PM
There were a ton of people who thought we gave up too much for Mahomes too.

tmax63 04-23-2019 12:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14221575)
why couldn't spags do the same with Jones, Houston, Ford, and Nnadi?
Ford couldn't set an edge to save his life and has had 1 good year in his career, his contract year. He's also spent a lot of time on the injury list. Houston has never been the same since his knee got totaled after getting his contract. Houston was no longer worth his contract and wouldn't renegotiate. Ford was too situational to be worth the money he got paid.

TribalElder 04-23-2019 12:29 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This Just In: Chiefs &amp; DE Frank Clark have reached an agreement on a 5-year, $105.5 million contract with $63.5 million guaranteed. (via <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@AdamSchefter</a>) <a href="https://t.co/bCacksBGPx">pic.twitter.com/bCacksBGPx</a></p>&mdash; SportsCenter (@SportsCenter) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/status/1120755937172758529?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 04-23-2019 12:29 PM
Seriously lets look back...the Vikings gave us more for Jared Allen..would anyone do that trade again?

RealSNR 04-23-2019 12:29 PM
We better start investing in WRs now, then.

We can't afford Tyreek now, so it appears we were going to let him walk after this crap surfaced.

I really doubt we're going to keep Watkins over the life of his contract (and to be honest, I don't really want him).

So get going. Draft one early now, and draft one next year too.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-23-2019 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 14221575)
why couldn't spags do the same with Jones, Houston, Ford, and Nnadi?
It's slightly more a year, $3.4 mill or so, than Ford's contract. I don't mind the deal as I think he is way better than Ford.

tredadda 04-23-2019 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 14221358)
Veach hates 1st round picks. That must be it.
You place too much value on 1st round picks. Mahomes was easily worth more than the one first rounder we gave up for him. Clark could easily be better than anyone we could get at #29 this year.

TribalElder 04-23-2019 12:29 PM
How much did we give Chris Jones?

ptlyon 04-23-2019 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14221593)
I feel like half the people in this thread are just mad because their Thursday was ruined.
Well, we did have a what we were having for food thread for Thursday night

In58men 04-23-2019 12:31 PM
What does this mean for Tyreek?

Codered 04-23-2019 12:31 PM
Some major overreaction on both sides. Adding Clark isn't going to make KC a top 10 defense nor is going to hamper them from being one with some more good moves. I would have liked if KC waited to see who was available tomorrow night, but obviously, that didn't matter to Veach.

O.city 04-23-2019 12:31 PM
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">You can argue the value of the compensation, but in Spags’ scheme he absolutely is. Can you see Dee lining up in a 6 tech? No shade at all. These are schematically relevant differences and people lump all edge guys together. <a href="https://t.co/5AJPO7QTqO">https://t.co/5AJPO7QTqO</a></p>&mdash; Chris Long (@JOEL9ONE) <a href="https://twitter.com/JOEL9ONE/status/1120754783089057792?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 23, 2019</a></blockquote>
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The Franchise 04-23-2019 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 14221624)
We better start investing in WRs now, then.

We can't afford Tyreek now, so it appears we were going to let him walk after this crap surfaced.

I really doubt we're going to keep Watkins over the life of his contract (and to be honest, I don't really want him).

So get going. Draft one early now, and draft one next year too.
I can honestly see them drafting two this year.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-23-2019 12:31 PM
I think the Chiefs org knew this was likely to happen, that is why the Draft Party is not on the first night...:)


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